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The Squatter of Amon RŻdh 03-29-2006 04:07 AM

Wizard wheeze
 
Are the staffs of the Five Wizards offered as a prize for getting this one?

1: Curumo
4: Olorin
5: Aiwendil

No time to work out the password, though.

Turambar 03-29-2006 05:32 AM

Maybe The Saucepan Man is employing Rule #5, and the Password is simply "Istari" or "Wizards".

The Saucepan Man 03-29-2006 07:50 AM

Those are correct, Squatter. :) No staff, I am afraid. Merely the key to the thread for finding the Password.

Which Turambar has indeed correctly identified.

1. Curumo (Cur + Ulmo - l) Vala lost weight after dog turned traitor.
2. Alatar Latecomer buries article in religious location ...
3. Pallando Ö accompanied by friend visiting place with ring.
4. Olorin (polo ring) Key player in polo ring.
5. Aiwendil (Ail taking in Wendi) Forest native to feel ill after consuming girl, we hear.

Password: Istari

Your thread, Turambar. :)

Turambar 03-30-2006 07:40 AM

1. Raider ranks high around Mordor.
2. Angrod - Worm destroyed elf.
3. Lamedon - Injured professor in Gondor.
4. Beleg - Maybe legends of the past can reveal the faithful friend.
5. Athelas - Leaders of Last Alliance pursued two articles to a point, and found a healer.
6. Really good times, and better than the Leap of Beren.
7. Incanus - We follow the ancient mountain dweller, wizard!

3 . . . 2 . . . . 1 . . .

The Saucepan Man 03-30-2006 07:53 AM

3. Lamedon (injured = lame; professor = don)

The Saucepan Man 03-30-2006 07:56 AM

5. Athelas (Leaders of Last Alliance = LA; after two articles = a + the; to a point = s(outh))

Turambar 03-30-2006 08:13 AM

Both correct, of course.

Turambar 04-10-2006 05:56 AM

*bump*

The Saucepan Man 04-10-2006 07:01 AM

4. Maybe legends of the past can reveal the faithful friend.

Beleg.

Turambar 04-10-2006 10:07 AM

Correct.

Samwise 04-16-2006 08:32 PM

*bump*

The Squatter of Amon RŻdh 09-14-2006 06:11 AM

A few guesses
 
1: Corsair. Coarse air ranks very highly around Mordor; in fact it stinks to high heaven. A corsair is a raider. Alternatively, Uruk could answer the same question.
2: Angrod. Simply an anagram of Dragon (worm).
6: Overlithes. Beren's leap was lithe, and Overlithe was a particularly celebrated occasion.
7: Incanus We (us) follow the ancient mountain-dweller (Inca). The answer is a wizard (Gandalf). Of course there is an 'n' that I haven't accounted for.

The Squatter of Amon RŻdh 03-28-2007 12:49 PM

Any chance of an answer?

Samwise 06-30-2007 07:42 PM

Turambar? Your Saucepanness ?:confused:

Turambar 08-15-2007 06:59 AM

Uh, sorry
 
Sorry - I thought this thread had died. :confused:

Well, in case anyone still cares, Angrod and Incanus are correct. (Squatter - "ancient mountain dweller" = Incan.)

"Corsair" is not correct for #1 - I think this clue violates classic cryptic clue rules, but it's a scramble, and "raider" is the straight clue.

#6 - a pun of sorts.

The Saucepan Man 08-15-2007 01:04 PM

Quote:

1. Raider ranks high around Mordor.
"ranks high" mixed around = Grishnakh, a raider from Mordor.

Quote:

6. Really good times, and better than the Leap of Beren.
The Spring of Arda is better than the leap of Beren, and was a really good time to boot.

If I am correct, the password must be GALBASI, the forerunner of Gamgee.

Turambar 08-16-2007 06:13 AM

Correct! :)

The Saucepan Man 10-06-2009 06:36 AM

It's been a long time ...
 
Time for a new puzzle, I think:

1. Feanorís first cry of sorrow on finding place of havens.
2. You heard nine agitating for calming influence.
3. Young queen backs up state-of the-art storage medium.
4. Disadvantaged lord makes mark initially in Rohan.
5. It is charged by knight before flower emerges.

Click here for the rules to the game.

Samwise 10-06-2009 09:19 AM

:(You heard nine agitating for calming influence.

Ringwraiths?

The Saucepan Man 10-07-2009 05:04 AM

Hello Samwise. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samwise (Post 612542)
:(You heard nine agitating for calming influence.

Ringwraiths?

No, I am afraid not.

As is my wont, the clues are cryptic, although one word or phrase in each (either at the beginning of the end) provides a literal clue.

Mnemosyne 10-08-2009 02:53 PM

I am pondering over the clues; alas, as an American I had to learn cryptics as a second language and am unskilled in the art.

But am not intending to let this one pass without a fight.

The Saucepan Man 10-09-2009 06:46 AM

Cryptic clues
 
In case it helps, here is a guide to solving cryptic clues which I put together ... good lord ... over six years ago ... :eek:

Mithalwen 10-09-2009 10:30 AM

Well I learnt cryptics at my mother's knee (literally) but it isn't helping much. Though if it helps anyone get started flower usually indicates a river, agitating would suggest an anagram, backs up a reversal of letters, first and initially..initials but not if they are part of the "straight" part of the clue. At the moment I am lacking in inspiration of how to apply the theory.. but I am thinking... (slow process - especially after three days solid gawping at spreadsheets).

The Saucepan Man 10-26-2009 05:58 PM

Anyone?

Mith's analysis of the cryptic conventions used in my clues is spot on, in case that is any help ...

Mithalwen 10-27-2009 05:56 AM

Oooh after some intensive training (making a point of doing what I can of the Telegraph crossword for a week or so) , I think I have the first:

1, Feanorís first cry of sorrow on finding place of havens -falas

Feanor's initial F + alas, a cry of sorrow. Fairly confident since Sauce's clues always work tidily. :D

The Saucepan Man 10-27-2009 07:22 AM

The training paid off, Mith. You are correct. :)

1. Falas - Feanorís first cry of sorrow on finding place of havens.
2. You heard nine agitating for calming influence.
3. Young queen backs up state-of the-art storage medium.
4. Disadvantaged lord makes mark initially in Rohan.
5. It is charged by knight before flower emerges.

Any more for any more?

Mnemosyne 10-28-2009 01:01 AM

Aha!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man (Post 614539)
4. Disadvantaged lord makes mark initially in Rohan.

Brandir: brand (for mark), plus i. and r. And Brandir was certainly disadvantaged, and not just physically!

The Saucepan Man 10-28-2009 03:21 AM

Spot on with that one, Mnemosyne. Well done. :)

1. Falas - Feanorís first cry of sorrow on finding place of havens.
2. You heard nine agitating for calming influence.
3. Young queen backs up state-of the-art storage medium.
4. Brandir - Disadvantaged lord makes mark initially in Rohan.
5. It is charged by knight before flower emerges.

Next?

Mithalwen 10-29-2009 04:47 AM

Not so sure on this but I think 2 might well be Uinen.
You heard nine agitating for calming influence.
U= you heard
inen= agitation (anagram) of nine.

Uinen was a calming influence on Osse.

Since I am posting anyway I should give full credit for clue one... I had just thought of falas as the elvish for coast and so generally a place for havens but looking for something else last night I saw a reference to the Havens of the Falas in Beleriand which I had quite forgotten about.

The Saucepan Man 10-29-2009 07:12 AM

You're on a roll, Mith. :)

1. Falas - Feanorís first cry of sorrow on finding place of havens.
2. Uinen - You heard nine agitating for calming influence.
3. Young queen backs up state-of the-art storage medium.
4. Brandir - Disadvantaged lord makes mark initially in Rohan.
5. It is charged by knight before flower emerges.

The 'calming influence' clue is perhaps a little obscure, but I didn't want to make it too easy.

Only two more to go ...

Mithalwen 10-29-2009 11:34 AM

I don't know about that ...very erratic if I were a horse there would be a stewards enquiry.. I nearly finished the Telegraph puzzle yeasterday but not a scud the day before and only today... so it may be Memo's turn.. though I have been looking up Queens and Rivers without much inspiration so far...

Mnemosyne 10-29-2009 11:52 AM

My only guess for 3 is Morwen...

Backwards is New ROM (read only memory) which is rather a state-of-the-art storage medium...

However something doesn't quite add up about it.

Anyway there's no harm in guessing, is there?

The Saucepan Man 10-29-2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mith
I nearly finished the Telegraph puzzle yeasterday but not a scud the day before and only today...

I am much the same with the Times' cryptic puzzle. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mnemo
Anyway there's no harm in guessing, is there?

No, not at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mnemo
However something doesn't quite add up about it.

Why not? It adds up perfectly as far as I can see. :)

1. Falas - Feanorís first cry of sorrow on finding place of havens.
2. Uinen - You heard nine agitating for calming influence.
3. Morwen - Young queen backs up state-of the-art storage medium.
4. Brandir - Disadvantaged lord makes mark initially in Rohan.
5. It is charged by knight before flower emerges.

Only one more to get now ...

Mithalwen 10-29-2009 01:39 PM

Couldn't do the Times at all and we don't take it anymore...but my mother always said Thursdays were impossible...and I think the Tuesday setter ..even when I had the answer I couldn't get why...

I see why Morwen but not why she is a young queen.

Edit
Gah Morwen of Lossarnach, Queen of Rohan....

Mnemosyne 10-29-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man (Post 614656)
Why not? It adds up perfectly as far as I can see. :)

Well, sometimes one is tempted to overthink these things...

Mnemosyne 11-06-2009 09:08 PM

One visit to the HASA Research library later...

And #5 is Sirion, made of a knight (sir) preceding a charge (ion).

Mnemosyne 11-06-2009 09:16 PM

Mith, if you can make a password out of this obscure array, I can't (unless Fumbs is, say, an early name for one of The Hobbit's trolls or sommat like that).

The Saucepan Man 11-07-2009 05:47 PM

Spot on, Menmo. Now, you're in the swing of it. :)

1. Falas - Feanor’s first cry of sorrow on finding place of havens.
2. Uinen - You heard nine agitating for calming influence.
3. Morwen - Young queen backs up state-of the-art storage medium.
4. Brandir - Disadvantaged lord makes mark initially in Rohan.
5. Sirion - It is charged by knight before flower emerges.

Ok, so what's the Password, folks? (And no, it's not Fumbs :D )

Mithalwen 11-08-2009 11:12 AM

I am in awe.... I was going to pretend I was keeping a low profile because I didn't want to set the next one but really I was no where near. Have to admit that I thought that it would start with e because the only trace of a word in Tolkien starting was a Qenya (not Quenya) pp of Fume..fumbe.

I didn't think bumf took a plural and it isn't very Tolkienesque..

I am getting a lot better at the Telegraph one though....

Mithalwen 11-08-2009 11:22 AM

I guess that Sauce has invoked Law Five....

I would guess Turin but dont' quite get the Uinen connection...


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