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Pervinca Took 03-03-2019 05:59 AM

5. Tempted to say Rohan, but Rohan is a shop that specialises in outdoor clothing and footwear, not jewellery.

Pervinca Took 03-03-2019 06:11 AM

Just to bring Formendacil's password onto the current page:

1. My wife to Mandos
2. Dwarves' alternative fumes
3. Oh, to be a lawn of Fangorn!
4. The "oh, leg!" of grinding.
5. Men's jewelry of the Gap
6. Sounds like coughing in Menegroth
7. Lost in [elvish translation] by the West Gate
8. The "uh, it's blocked" of Pelargir
9. Scooby greets Star Wars, thanks to Stu

And to add my first guess of Vaire for number 1 (which is now on the last page).

Formendacil 03-03-2019 12:47 PM

No to 1. being Vaire.

No to 5. being Rohan.

Pervinca Took 03-03-2019 02:30 PM

1. Finwe, whose first wife went to Mandos?

Huinesoron 03-03-2019 02:47 PM

7. Ost-in-Edhil, which is close to the West Gate of Moria and, y'know, starts with '[l]ost in' and then a word related to elves?

hS

Formendacil 03-03-2019 03:00 PM

No to Finwe, but....

1. My wife to Mandos
2. Dwarves' alternative fumes
3. Oh, to be a lawn of Fangorn!
4. The "oh, leg!" of grinding.
5. Men's jewelry of the Gap
6. Sounds like coughing in Menegroth
7. Ost-in-Edhil Lost in [elvish translation] by the West Gate
8. The "uh, it's blocked" of Pelargir
9. Scooby greets Star Wars, thanks to Stu

Galadriel55 03-03-2019 06:58 PM

1. Beren, for the same reasoning as Finwe?

Formendacil 03-03-2019 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 713661)
1. Beren, for the same reasoning as Finwe?

And, sadly, wrong for the same reason. ;-)

Pervinca Took 03-04-2019 02:56 AM

'Dwarves' alternative fumes' reminds me that I always want to sing:

"The dwarves of yore made mighty sMells
While hammers fell like ringing bells.'

(Especially Fror the Flatulent).

But that probably wasn't what you had in mind.

But whilst I'm on the topic:

8. The famous toilet plunger of the Corsairs.

Pervinca Took 03-04-2019 03:05 AM

9. Doo + Luke ... Durbatuluk?

Well, the 'tu' of 'Stu' is in it.

Or Doobydoo + Luke with the 'tu' of Stu overwriting the second 'doo?'

Huinesoron 03-04-2019 03:58 AM

1. Eol is the only person I know of who sent his own wife to Mandos.

I really want 3 to point to the name of an Ent, but... it doesn't seem to. :( I also can't find anywhere in Treebeard's song about Beleriand which is a lawn... there was at least one dancing-lawn in Neldoreth, I suppose, but I'm going a bit off-key here.

(Hmm, I wonder if Treebeard was able to pass the Girdle of Melian...?)

8. I mean, there was a Siege of Pelargir, which fits the description... I guess?

hS

Pervinca Took 03-04-2019 04:56 AM

Could 2 be RUNES?

If you swap two letters of fumes, you get runes, which dwarves use a lot.

Formendacil 03-04-2019 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713669)
But that probably wasn't what you had in mind.

Indeed, no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713669)
8. The famous toilet plunger of the Corsairs.

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713670)
9. Doo + Luke ... Durbatuluk?

Well, the 'tu' of 'Stu' is in it.

Or Doobydoo + Luke with the 'tu' of Stu overwriting the second 'doo?'

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 713671)
1. Eol is the only person I know of who sent his own wife to Mandos.

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 713671)
8. I mean, there was a Siege of Pelargir, which fits the description... I guess?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713672)
Could 2 be RUNES?

If you swap two letters of fumes, you get runes, which dwarves use a lot.

No.



Once the password is achieved, I suspect, these will fall fairly quickly, but in the meantime I will say that each clue is twofold: an element directly pertaining to its appropriate answer word, and an element that links to the Password.

Pervinca Took 03-04-2019 01:47 PM

Could the password be LOCATIONS?

Galadriel55 03-04-2019 02:34 PM

Ok, I'm now wondering if #1 is a cheeky SISTER. :cool::rolleyes:

Formendacil 03-04-2019 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713675)
Could the password be LOCATIONS?

No, but it's not too conceptually far off.

Formendacil 03-04-2019 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 713676)
Ok, I'm now wondering if #1 is a cheeky SISTER. :cool::rolleyes:

No, but I like the out of the box thinking.

Pervinca Took 03-04-2019 07:00 PM

4. The "oh, leg!" of grinding.
 
The only mill I know of is Sandyman's, which doesn't seem to fit.

Could the grinding be the grinding ice? HELCARAXE?

I can't find any components except for 'Hell!' as an alternative exclamation to the 'Oh!,' though.

(Unless it's something to do with lego!!)

Formendacil 03-04-2019 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713679)
The only mill I know of is Sandyman's, which doesn't seem to fit.

Could the grinding be the grinding ice? HELCARAXE?

I can't find any components except for 'Hell!' as an alternative exclamation to the 'Oh!,' though.

(Unless it's something to do with lego!!)

While LEGO *is* near and dear to my heart, it is not relevant here, and Helcaraxe is NOT the answer.

But you ARE getting warmer thinking about Sandyman...

Huinesoron 03-05-2019 03:27 AM

5. The river Adorn runs near Fangorn, and jewellery adorns you.
6. If you're coughing, your breath sounds ill, like Brethil; alternately, you might be ailing & ill - Aelin-Uial. Both border Doriath.
9. I think 'du' has to appear in this; the only possible starting with L (for Luke or Leia) is Lugdush (Luke-Doo-sh) the Uruk-hai. Perhaps he was played by Stuart?

Since I'm pretty sure this is wrong, a thought: 'Stu' as a straight clue could point to a Steward of Gondor.

...

OH WAIT.

Rot's that? Rour name's Han? 'ro, Han!

9. Rohan, thanks very much to Steward Cirion.

hS

Huinesoron 03-05-2019 03:30 AM

... which makes me think that the last three letters of the password are probably OUR, which makes 8. Umbar ('um, bar!').

hS

Formendacil 03-05-2019 04:19 PM

1. My wife to Mandos
2. Dwarves' alternative fumes
3. Oh, to be a lawn of Fangorn!
4. The "oh, leg!" of grinding.
5. Men's jewelry of the Gap
6. Brethil Sounds like coughing in Menegroth
7. Ost-in-Edhil Lost in [elvish translation] by the West Gate
8. Umbar The "uh, it's blocked" of Pelargir
9. Rohan Scooby greets Star Wars, thanks to Stu

Three right answers!


Adorn, however, is wrong.

Pervinca Took 03-05-2019 06:13 PM

4. Sarehole?

Or NEIGHBOUR for the password?

Formendacil 03-05-2019 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713694)
4. Sarehole?

Or NEIGHBOUR for the password?

No to Sarehole...

...but YES to Neighbour!

Huinesoron 03-06-2019 06:56 AM

5. I'm guessing something to do with HELM, which can act like jewellery to men. Neither the DEEP, DIKE, nor GATE seem to obviously connect, though.

I can find answers to the straight clue which fit the letters for 1-3 (Nienna, Erebor, and Isen(gard) respectively), but can't connect any of them to the cryptic clues.

4. ... I might hazard GORLIM, with 'limb' for leg, and 'gor blimey!' I don't remember him or Eilinel being millers, though.

hS

Pervinca Took 03-06-2019 07:07 AM

Maybe 1 is someone whose wife is a neighbour to Mandos.

Neithan ... Nienor has just killed herself? But tenuous. Also, I think mortals go to Mandos and then leave?

If the letters making up NAMO meant 'my wife,' it would be really handy!

Huinesoron 03-07-2019 05:18 AM

I wonder whether 'my wife' could point at Formendacil, and specifically at the answer being North (formen) -something. But I can't come up with anything that would fit.

Formenos is pretty close to the Halls of Mandos, but it never acquired an Anglicised name, which would be 'North Fortress' anyway. (Northchester would be a good English placename for it, come to think; or maybe I just like sticking -chester on the end of things... I've gotten off-topic.)

Hmm... Tolkien Gateway points out that 'Formenos' in Quenya translates to 'Fornost' in Sindarin, which does have a Hobbitish form: NORBURY. So I guess I'll guess that for #1, though 'bury' to 'bride' is a bit of a leap.

hS

Formendacil 03-07-2019 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 713704)
5. I'm guessing something to do with HELM, which can act like jewellery to men. Neither the DEEP, DIKE, nor GATE seem to obviously connect, though.

I can find answers to the straight clue which fit the letters for 1-3 (Nienna, Erebor, and Isen(gard) respectively), but can't connect any of them to the cryptic clues.

4. ... I might hazard GORLIM, with 'limb' for leg, and 'gor blimey!' I don't remember him or Eilinel being millers, though.

hS

No to Gorlim.

I won't say which, but you *might* want to revisit those three solutions you can't connect to the clues.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713705)
Maybe 1 is someone whose wife is a neighbour to Mandos.

Neithan ... Nienor has just killed herself? But tenuous. Also, I think mortals go to Mandos and then leave?

If the letters making up NAMO meant 'my wife,' it would be really handy!

That "maybe" is correct--but Neithan and Nienor are both wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 713719)
I wonder whether 'my wife' could point at Formendacil, and specifically at the answer being North (formen) -something. But I can't come up with anything that would fit.

Formenos is pretty close to the Halls of Mandos, but it never acquired an Anglicised name, which would be 'North Fortress' anyway. (Northchester would be a good English placename for it, come to think; or maybe I just like sticking -chester on the end of things... I've gotten off-topic.)

Hmm... Tolkien Gateway points out that 'Formenos' in Quenya translates to 'Fornost' in Sindarin, which does have a Hobbitish form: NORBURY. So I guess I'll guess that for #1, though 'bury' to 'bride' is a bit of a leap.

hS

No to Norbury--and I'll give away for free that the answer does not start with "North."

Pervinca Took 03-07-2019 01:46 PM

3. Oh, to be a lawn of Fangorn!
 
Lawn could be GARTH. 'To be' is SEIN in German.

Isen + garth is almost ISENGARD.

Formendacil 03-07-2019 03:09 PM

1. My wife to Mandos
2. Dwarves' alternative fumes
3. Isengard Oh, to be a lawn of Fangorn!
4. The "oh, leg!" of grinding.
5. Men's jewelry of the Gap
6. Brethil Sounds like coughing in Menegroth
7. Ost-in-Edhil Lost in [elvish translation] by the West Gate
8. Umbar The "uh, it's blocked" of Pelargir
9. Rohan Scooby greets Star Wars, thanks to Stu

I no longer actually remember my exact reasoning being Isengard (and my notes have disappeared...) but it is the correct answer AND was something to the effect of "is in-yard."

Pervinca Took 03-07-2019 03:18 PM

1. My wife to Mandos
 
Maybe this is Nimrodel? She became a resident/neighbour of Mandos when she drowned. Maybe it's Amroth speaking? (Also in the Halls of Mandos? I know they weren't exactly married, but ...).

Or maybe it's Nessa, who does have an actual spouse: Tulkas.

Or, hang on ... is the answer the husband?

Formendacil 03-07-2019 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713735)
Maybe this is Nimrodel? She became a resident/neighbour of Mandos when she drowned. Maybe it's Amroth speaking? (Also in the Halls of Mandos? I know they weren't exactly married, but ...).

Or maybe it's Nessa, who does have an actual spouse: Tulkas.

Or, hang on ... is the answer the husband?

No to Nimrodel.

No to Nessa.

Galadriel55 03-07-2019 09:09 PM

2. Esgaroth. It's a stretch but it has OR, GAS, and is next to some dwarves.

Huinesoron 03-08-2019 03:14 AM

1. ... NURUFANTUR? As a name for Mandos (oh, has NAMO been officially dismissed yet?), whose wife Vaire is, obviously, a neighbour to her husband. And it would make sense of the 'my', since it's referring to the man himself.

hS

Formendacil 03-08-2019 11:56 AM

1. My wife to Mandos
2. Esgaroth Dwarves' alternative fumes
3. Isengard Oh, to be a lawn of Fangorn!
4. The "oh, leg!" of grinding.
5. Men's jewelry of the Gap
6. Brethil Sounds like coughing in Menegroth
7. Ost-in-Edhil Lost in [elvish translation] by the West Gate
8. Umbar The "uh, it's blocked" of Pelargir
9. Rohan Scooby greets Star Wars, thanks to Stu


Yes to Esgaroth (OTHER GAS).

No to Nurufantur. And to Namo.

Pervinca Took 03-08-2019 12:47 PM

4. GROND? (Has to be worth a shot! (I wouldn't want it to run over my leg, anyway!))

(I (wrongly) guessed Namo a little while ago, Hs).

Other gas? Great clue!

Pervinca Took 03-08-2019 01:00 PM

1. Apparently Finwe was surnamed NOLDORAN, and I think Miriel was the first person ever to go to Mandos?

5. HORNBURG, with 'horn' as men's jewellery?

Formendacil 03-08-2019 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713754)
4. GROND? (Has to be worth a shot! (I wouldn't want it to run over my leg, anyway!))

(I (wrongly) guessed Namo a little while ago, Hs).

Other gas? Great clue!

No to Grond.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 713755)
1. Apparently Finwe was surnamed NOLDORAN, and I think Miriel was the first person ever to go to Mandos?

5. HORNBURG, with 'horn' as men's jewellery?

No to Noldoran.

No to Hornburg.

Galadriel55 03-08-2019 04:46 PM

Does Earendil have a name that starts with N? Elwing dwelled on the Westernmost shores which is also the location of the Halls of Mandos.

I'm running out of ideas here. I feel like I can't come up with anything half as clever as Sister :p.

Pervinca Took 03-08-2019 05:00 PM

There aren't many characters beginning with N, and of them, the dwarf-names aren't much help, seeing as we never hear of their wives.

What was your sister answer, G55?


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