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Nogrod · 10-03-2008, 07:22 PM

In the air of the current financial crises I might say, "yes there is still a bit too little regulation"...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

2. I have no idea what the point of the "left-handed mouse" thing is. It's just as easy to use a normal, non-switched mouse with your left hand (as I do, and I work in computer graphics)

Thanks for making me feel sane again... I mean at some point I relly thought I was being a silly person with no idea of something really basic everyone knows...

A fun round anyway and some really nice pics!

But anyway we should think of this for the next one. Like the lawmakers in the U.S., how to regulate it enough for it to work but not to shun individual effort?

*ponders*

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 10-04-2008, 01:52 AM

This one was quite strange! I just don't know what to say. My favourite part was the one that said THE End, though!

THE Ka · 10-04-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookbill

Would you prefer a definite story? Or maybe have it split into teams; three to do the start of the story, three to do the middle and three to do the end? All collaborating with each other, but the teams being sort of independent thus retaining something of the challenge? Or maybe just teams writing any part they want and therefore the challenge is arranging each teams' work?

That would probably give the comic enough glue to string together some plot, but not too much at the loss of perfect insanity.
Maybe something like a 'choose your own adventure' book, where some of the plot remains, but the result for the different parts is wholly up to the team's devices and imagination.

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Originally Posted by TGEW

My favourite part was the one that said THE End, though!

Ach! Don't mention that name! THE Great Crasher of Epic Narrative, THE Far Too Conclusive One, and Destorer of Tolerably Well Crafted Plot Lines...

~ Ka

Aganzir · 10-04-2008, 02:07 PM

I'm in for the next one.

Sorry but I'm too tired to think of any ways to improve the coherency right now. I promise to think about it tomorrow or some other day.

Thinlómien · 10-06-2008, 02:06 AM

This was very amusing

but I agree that the format is still a tad too unclear or that it doesn't work out perfectly yet. Hmmm... would this game totally lose its point if it became more papertelephoneish so that we actually established a list of the order in which we draw, and then everybody could see the panel the previous person had drawn (but not the ones before it)? (And did I explain clearly enough?)

Hookbill the Goomba · 10-06-2008, 06:15 AM

Here's an idea to make things a little less Paper Telephone...y?... and still retain some sort of story, as it were.

We get two people to draw panels. A third person draws something to try and link to the two together. Then we take the last panel and get someone else to draw another, then someone else links them. Something like that? So it's a bit like a chain, only... not?

Does this make sense?

So far, this many people have signed up for the next one...

- Aganzir
- Legate
- Nogrod
- Lommy
- THE Ka
-
-
-
-

Did I miss anyone?

Aganzir · 10-06-2008, 12:01 PM

I think that sounds at least worth a try. And if it doesn't work we can always try something else.

I am unable to draw (well, I can draw but not send) anything during next week, just FYI. So I will have to do my piece either very soon or only later I think.
Or then you Hookbill could come and pick up the picture in London.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-06-2008, 12:51 PM

The idea as presented by you sounds good, Hookbill. Actually, the thing I thought of originally (which I can't recall

) may have been something similar (that means it is a good idea

). And, you may add me to the list... if there's space still!!!

Nogrod · 10-06-2008, 02:39 PM

Good idea Hookbill!

I'm in for a try.

*this will work one day, this will work...*

Thinlómien · 10-06-2008, 02:43 PM

Let's try it, then.

Count me in, Hookey.

THE Ka · 10-06-2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hookbill

Does this make sense?

Perfectly, we just have to make sure we have an even number of people, or someone is going to be left out.

I'll try another go, hopefully this time it won't look like a microscopic scrubble.

~ Ka

Hookbill the Goomba · 10-09-2008, 03:44 PM

We could do with a few more people. Who wants to join the insanity? You? You? Or maybe... YOU!

The fools, sorry, volunteers, so far...

- Aganzir
- Legate
- Nogrod
- Lommy
- THE Ka
- Gwathagor
- TheGreatElvenWarrior
-Volo
-

Gwathagor · 10-09-2008, 04:35 PM

I'll do it, of course.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 10-10-2008, 05:06 PM

Hey, What the heck! I'll do it again!

Aganzir · 10-28-2008, 10:52 AM

Eee. More then two weeks since the last post.

Hookbill the Goomba · 10-28-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Eee. More then two weeks since the last post.

Good grief! You're right! I think we still need more players in order to begin, though.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 11-29-2008, 05:42 PM

I'll play, if that is, we play again! Haven't thought about this thread in a while...

Hookbill the Goomba · 11-29-2008, 06:04 PM

You're already on the list, Greaty.

Urm... If this game goes ahead, I don't think I'd be able to mod it. Coursework and other matters are bludgeoning me in the face at the moment... I may be able to get a panel done, but I don't think I'd be able to properly mod.

Anyone up for it?

Volo · 12-01-2008, 06:08 AM

I'll play, not mod.

Hookbill the Goomba · 12-01-2008, 06:39 AM

Well, I think that's enough players... All we need now is a mod...

- Aganzir
- Legate
- Nogrod
- Lommy
- THE Ka
- Gwathagor
- TheGreatElvenWarrior
-Volo
- Hookbill

Oddwen · 12-01-2008, 11:14 AM

Hmm...I think I might be able to mod.

Did we find a continuity fix yet? Two suggestions I have would be to either have the mod come up with a story and give each drawer an assignment, or to be too paperteleporno and have each drawer describe their panel for the next person. The first might be a bit too tyrannical, and the second too multiple-topics-on-the-same-subjectish.

The Might · 12-01-2008, 02:53 PM

I wanna play too!

Laurinquë · 12-07-2008, 02:32 AM

Seems a tad late, but I would like to play so I'll put myself up for the next round.

I laughed so hard at the last strip, and I don't even know why. I think it was just all the strange situations Gandalf went though, I mean really, Daleks? It's amazing 'Greaty'. I'm glad you asked if you could put one in.

Oddwen · 12-07-2008, 11:46 AM

Mkay. Here is my list of players:

- Aganzir
- Legate
- Nogrod
- Lommy
- THE Ka
- Gwathagor
- TheGreatElvenWarrior
- Volo
- Hookbill
- He Who Arises in Might
- Laurinque

Here's how it'll all go down. I will PM you all the same sentence, you will draw a 200x200 panel. Dialogue and the occasional "Meanwhile, back at the ranch..." inserts are fine. You will email it back to me at the address I will send you. I will arrange said panels in a semi-coherent manner, and then post them here.

If the end result just doesn't amalgamate, I may add a few panels myself.

Any objections? If not, I will send out the PMs tomorrow.

The next Mod may want to replace "a sentence" with "a poem"...that could be interesting.

edit: Oh!

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Originally Posted by Hookbill

We get two people to draw panels. A third person draws something to try and link to the two together. Then we take the last panel and get someone else to draw another, then someone else links them. Something like that? So it's a bit like a chain, only... not?

What of this?

Oddwen · 12-09-2008, 10:42 PM

I've sent y'all your sentence a day late, which I'm sorry about. But they're sent.

Please try to get your panels to me at the address ensconcelled in your PMs within a week.

If you want to give your panels a widescreen effect by making them wider, I wouldn't mind. It's kind of a weird sentence after all. :/

Oddwen · 12-17-2008, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruel, cruel me

Please try to get your panels to me at the address ensconcelled in your PMs within a week.

Know what...I forgot that many of you are also working on the *cough* long-running Paper Telephone...during the Christmas season...

If we can finish this up before the new year (MST) that would be wonderful, but if we can't, I'll fill a few spaces.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-17-2008, 04:06 PM

Oh no,

I should have done it right when I got it; now I completely forgot about it. And there is so many other things which I should do as well... if it can wait, it will be great. If not, you can just as well remove me from the list.

(And don't even tell me - I am the one who is modding this Paper Telephone, waiting for people to post what they should for weeks...)

Thinlómien · 12-19-2008, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Oh no,

I should have done it right when I got it; now I completely forgot about it. And there is so many other things which I should do as well... if it can wait, it will be great. If not, you can just as well remove me from the list.

Sounds familiar...

I'll try to do it today, but if I don't have time, I'm afraid it will have to wait a rather long time...

Thinlómien · 12-19-2008, 02:56 AM

Done.

Laurinquë · 01-03-2009, 04:08 AM

How's this going? I am looking forward to seeing my panel 'in print'.

I know I'm being a bit of an inquisitive hobbit here, but when do you think this will be done by Oddwen?

Oddwen · 01-03-2009, 05:53 AM

Well, I've highlighted the persons in the list above who have sent in their panels and there's one other person who said they were drawing theirs, but...

I shall likely send reminder PMs this afternoon, and finish it up Monday if I must.

Aganzir · 01-03-2009, 09:11 AM

I just came online with a plan to draw mine today.
Sorry it's taken me so long, first I just didn't have time and then I forgot about it.

Oddwen · 01-03-2009, 05:03 PM

I'm giving you three (*glare*) until the ninth to finish up, just to give it an even month. Yes, even the one of you with a full PM box.

Volo · 01-04-2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oddwen

Yes, even the one of you with a full PM box.

Hsss... Nassty found uss! But what iss thiss, iss nassty beigh nice to uss?

I'll see what I can do today, now that I'm back.

Oddwen · 01-07-2009, 08:26 AM

Okey dokey, only one person to go.

TGEW, are you still having computer/scanner problems, and if so will you be able to get your picture in?

Oddwen · 01-08-2009, 11:17 AM

One more day to go - I'm going to offer the remaining spot to someone if they want it. First one to PM me gets to draw it. Step right up! Step right up!

If not, I'll do it meself. No biggie.

Oddwen · 01-09-2009, 02:18 PM

Alrighty, here we go!

The sentence I sent out...was different for each person. They all interconnect to make a horrible poem. A poem which you are about to read:

Thank you all for playing this round! I hope this wasn't too offensive, and was coherent enough.

Drawings in order of appearance:

Aganzir, Legate of Amon Lanc, Nogrod
Thinlomien, THE Ka, Gwathagor,
Oddwen, Volo, Hookbill the Goomba
Oddwen, The Might, Laurinque

Sorry you couldn't make it, Greaty. Better luck with your scanner next time!

Hookbill the Goomba · 01-09-2009, 02:27 PM

An excellent comic, I say! Well done Oddy and everyone else involved. Laurinque's picture was quite good, I thought. Aganzir went above and beyond once again! Well done!

Thinlómien · 01-09-2009, 02:36 PM

Funny.

I must say Hookbill's picture amused me the most.

Thanks for modding, Oddie!

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-09-2009, 02:46 PM

Actually, I really liked Gwath's pic, and then I also liked P&A on Miggy and Laurinquë's ones. But great work, actually, everybody

And thanks, Oddie.

10-04-2008, 01:52 AM	#82
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	This one was quite strange! I just don't know what to say. My favourite part was the one that said THE End, though! __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

10-04-2008, 02:07 PM	#84
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	I'm in for the next one. Sorry but I'm too tired to think of any ways to improve the coherency right now. I promise to think about it tomorrow or some other day. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

10-06-2008, 02:06 AM	#85
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	This was very amusing but I agree that the format is still a tad too unclear or that it doesn't work out perfectly yet. Hmmm... would this game totally lose its point if it became more papertelephoneish so that we actually established a list of the order in which we draw, and then everybody could see the panel the previous person had drawn (but not the ones before it)? (And did I explain clearly enough?) __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

10-06-2008, 06:15 AM	#86
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	Here's an idea to make things a little less Paper Telephone...y?... and still retain some sort of story, as it were. We get two people to draw panels. A third person draws something to try and link to the two together. Then we take the last panel and get someone else to draw another, then someone else links them. Something like that? So it's a bit like a chain, only... not? Does this make sense? So far, this many people have signed up for the next one... - Aganzir - Legate - Nogrod - Lommy - THE Ka - - - - Did I miss anyone? __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket... Last edited by Hookbill the Goomba; 10-07-2008 at 03:32 AM.

10-06-2008, 12:01 PM	#87
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	I think that sounds at least worth a try. And if it doesn't work we can always try something else. I am unable to draw (well, I can draw but not send) anything during next week, just FYI. So I will have to do my piece either very soon or only later I think. Or then you Hookbill could come and pick up the picture in London. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

10-06-2008, 12:51 PM	#88
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	The idea as presented by you sounds good, Hookbill. Actually, the thing I thought of originally (which I can't recall ) may have been something similar (that means it is a good idea ). And, you may add me to the list... if there's space still!!! __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

10-06-2008, 02:39 PM	#89
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Good idea Hookbill! I'm in for a try. this will work one day, this will work... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

10-06-2008, 02:43 PM	#90
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Let's try it, then. Count me in, Hookey. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

10-09-2008, 03:44 PM	#92
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	We could do with a few more people. Who wants to join the insanity? You? You? Or maybe... YOU! The fools, sorry, volunteers, so far... - Aganzir - Legate - Nogrod - Lommy - THE Ka - Gwathagor - TheGreatElvenWarrior -Volo - __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket... Last edited by Hookbill the Goomba; 12-01-2008 at 06:39 AM.

10-09-2008, 04:35 PM	#93
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	I'll do it, of course. __________________ Stories and songs.

10-10-2008, 05:06 PM	#94
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	Hey, What the heck! I'll do it again! __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

10-28-2008, 10:52 AM	#95
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Eee. More then two weeks since the last post. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

11-29-2008, 05:42 PM	#97
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	I'll play, if that is, we play again! Haven't thought about this thread in a while... __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

11-29-2008, 06:04 PM	#98
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	You're already on the list, Greaty. Urm... If this game goes ahead, I don't think I'd be able to mod it. Coursework and other matters are bludgeoning me in the face at the moment... I may be able to get a panel done, but I don't think I'd be able to properly mod. Anyone up for it? __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket...

12-01-2008, 06:08 AM	#99
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	I'll play, not mod. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

12-01-2008, 06:39 AM	#100
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	Well, I think that's enough players... All we need now is a mod... - Aganzir - Legate - Nogrod - Lommy - THE Ka - Gwathagor - TheGreatElvenWarrior -Volo - Hookbill __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket...

12-01-2008, 11:14 AM	#101
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,125	Hmm...I think I might be able to mod. Did we find a continuity fix yet? Two suggestions I have would be to either have the mod come up with a story and give each drawer an assignment, or to be too paperteleporno and have each drawer describe their panel for the next person. The first might be a bit too tyrannical, and the second too multiple-topics-on-the-same-subjectish. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door Last edited by Oddwen; 12-01-2008 at 01:20 PM. Reason: getting more on-topic

12-01-2008, 02:53 PM	#102
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I wanna play too! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-07-2008, 02:32 AM	#103
Laurinquë Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 347	Seems a tad late, but I would like to play so I'll put myself up for the next round. I laughed so hard at the last strip, and I don't even know why. I think it was just all the strange situations Gandalf went though, I mean really, Daleks? It's amazing 'Greaty'. I'm glad you asked if you could put one in.

12-09-2008, 10:42 PM	#105
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,125	I've sent y'all your sentence a day late, which I'm sorry about. But they're sent. Please try to get your panels to me at the address ensconcelled in your PMs within a week. If you want to give your panels a widescreen effect by making them wider, I wouldn't mind. It's kind of a weird sentence after all. :/ __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

12-17-2008, 04:06 PM	#107
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Oh no, I should have done it right when I got it; now I completely forgot about it. And there is so many other things which I should do as well... if it can wait, it will be great. If not, you can just as well remove me from the list. (And don't even tell me - I am the one who is modding this Paper Telephone, waiting for people to post what they should for weeks...) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-19-2008, 02:56 AM	#109
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Done. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-03-2009, 04:08 AM	#110
Laurinquë Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 347	How's this going? I am looking forward to seeing my panel 'in print'. I know I'm being a bit of an inquisitive hobbit here, but when do you think this will be done by Oddwen?

01-03-2009, 05:53 AM	#111
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,125	Well, I've highlighted the persons in the list above who have sent in their panels and there's one other person who said they were drawing theirs, but... I shall likely send reminder PMs this afternoon, and finish it up Monday if I must. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

01-03-2009, 09:11 AM	#112
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	I just came online with a plan to draw mine today. Sorry it's taken me so long, first I just didn't have time and then I forgot about it. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

01-03-2009, 05:03 PM	#113
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,125	I'm giving you three (glare) until the ninth to finish up, just to give it an even month. Yes, even the one of you with a full PM box. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

01-07-2009, 08:26 AM	#115
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,125	Okey dokey, only one person to go. TGEW, are you still having computer/scanner problems, and if so will you be able to get your picture in? __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

01-08-2009, 11:17 AM	#116
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,125	One more day to go - I'm going to offer the remaining spot to someone if they want it. First one to PM me gets to draw it. Step right up! Step right up! If not, I'll do it meself. No biggie. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

01-09-2009, 02:18 PM	#117
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,125	Alrighty, here we go! The sentence I sent out...was different for each person. They all interconnect to make a horrible poem. A poem which you are about to read: Thank you all for playing this round! I hope this wasn't too offensive, and was coherent enough. Drawings in order of appearance: Aganzir, Legate of Amon Lanc, Nogrod Thinlomien, THE Ka, Gwathagor, Oddwen, Volo, Hookbill the Goomba Oddwen, The Might, Laurinque Sorry you couldn't make it, Greaty. Better luck with your scanner next time! __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door Last edited by Oddwen; 01-09-2009 at 02:29 PM.

01-09-2009, 02:27 PM	#118
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	An excellent comic, I say! Well done Oddy and everyone else involved. Laurinque's picture was quite good, I thought. Aganzir went above and beyond once again! Well done! __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket...

01-09-2009, 02:36 PM	#119
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Funny. I must say Hookbill's picture amused me the most. Thanks for modding, Oddie! __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-09-2009, 02:46 PM	#120
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Actually, I really liked Gwath's pic, and then I also liked P&A on Miggy and Laurinquë's ones. But great work, actually, everybody And thanks, Oddie. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories