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Mithalwen · 05-31-2004, 10:38 AM

I would think they would count as tangible, wouldn't they? Elves I mean; not all at the same time of course but since they are individually, I would have thought they would also be collectively.......but oh I don't know... and it ain't my question

Evisse the Blue · 05-31-2004, 01:35 PM

Um, how about the elven people as a whole? Or any people? I don't understand the question, if you mean does it have anything to do with elven people as a whole the answer would be: The book does not specify.
the light of Earendil's star? No, but the you're close.
The Lay of Leithian?No
If not, ist it a Lay? No
The Lament for Gandalf? No
Is it a song? No
Err .... stab in the dark: "In western lands" Sam's song in Cirith Ungol? No

NightKnight · 05-31-2004, 02:06 PM

The light of the Silmarils?

Evisse the Blue · 06-01-2004, 02:45 AM

The light of the Silmarils? No

The Perky Ent · 06-01-2004, 08:06 AM

I have no clue. This is a good one. Um...howabout....is it a lightsource?

Celegorm · 06-01-2004, 11:11 AM

The light the Elessar?

Evisse the Blue · 06-01-2004, 01:39 PM

The light the Elessar? -No
Um...howabout....is it a lightsource? Yes

Firefoot · 06-01-2004, 01:42 PM

Is it the Remmirath?

Evisse the Blue · 06-01-2004, 01:46 PM

Is it the Remmirath? - No

Firefoot · 06-01-2004, 01:48 PM

Is it a star(s)?

Evisse the Blue · 06-01-2004, 01:52 PM

Is it a star? Yes.

Firefoot · 06-01-2004, 01:57 PM

Borgil?

Evisse the Blue · 06-01-2004, 02:02 PM

Borgil? -No

Firefoot · 06-01-2004, 02:07 PM

There's one more I can think of without poring through my books....

Is it Menelvagor, the Swordsman in the Sky?

Fingolfin II · 06-02-2004, 01:34 AM

Is it the Sickle of the Valar?

Thorongil · 06-02-2004, 03:38 AM

Carnil?

Celegorm · 06-02-2004, 03:50 AM

Helluin?

NightKnight · 06-02-2004, 09:45 AM

Nénar?

Evisse the Blue · 06-02-2004, 02:32 PM

Nénar? - No
Helluin? - No
Carnil? - No
Is it the Sickle of the Valar? - No
Is it Menelvagor, the Swordsman in the Sky? - No

Elwe Singollo · 06-02-2004, 03:05 PM

Nenar

Elwe Singollo · 06-02-2004, 03:06 PM

The sun? The Sun is counted a star in the real world so if you want the elvish name then Anar?

Firefoot · 06-02-2004, 03:57 PM

The Wain?

Lhundulinwen · 06-02-2004, 08:13 PM

I don't think this counts as being intangible but-
The light from Sting when orcs/goblins are around?

Evisse the Blue · 06-03-2004, 11:14 PM

The light from Sting when orcs/goblins are around? -No
The Wain? -No
The sun? The Sun is counted a star in the real world so if you want the elvish name then Anar?- No. I suppose the Sun is counted as a star, though

Elwe Singollo · 06-04-2004, 08:38 AM

The Valacirya?

Elwe Singollo · 06-04-2004, 08:46 AM

Soronúmë???

I'm really out of guesses here

Evisse the Blue · 06-04-2004, 08:54 AM

Soronúmë??? -No
The Valacirya? -No

You guys should try a different approach here.

Firefoot · 06-04-2004, 10:43 AM

mental states... hm.

Did it evoke a joyful mental state?

NightKnight · 06-04-2004, 11:51 AM

Morwinyon, AKA Arcturus?

Celegorm · 06-04-2004, 11:54 AM

Is it the star of "Smith of Wootton Major"?

Elwe Singollo · 06-04-2004, 11:57 AM

The Phial of Galadriel?

Its an item but it has starligh light and it is a different approach.

Evisse the Blue · 06-04-2004, 12:49 PM

Is it the star of "Smith of Wootton Major"? - No
Morwinyon, AKA Arcturus? - No (Never heard of these before, Nightknight. Forgive my ignorance - where are they mentioned?)
Did it evoke a joyful mental state? - Yes
The Phial of Galadriel? - No
Oh and it's not the moon either.

NightKnight · 06-04-2004, 12:54 PM

Eh...I found them on a homepage.

Is it a constellation?

Celegorm · 06-04-2004, 12:59 PM

Is it mentioned in the Sil?

Firefoot · 06-04-2004, 01:14 PM

Did it evoke an emotion in more than one person?

Bombadil · 06-04-2004, 03:16 PM

Is it the stars in a spirit-like embodiment of Elbereth?

Lhundulinwen · 06-04-2004, 07:53 PM

Can it be held? *shrugs*

Evisse the Blue · 06-05-2004, 02:11 AM

Can it be held? *shrugs* - No.

Is it the stars in a spirit-like embodiment of Elbereth? - No (though that would have been a nice one

)

Did it evoke an emotion in more than one person? - No (that being: it evoked an emotion in only one person)

Is it mentioned in the Sil? -No

Is it a constellation? - No

You're getting close!

NightKnight · 06-05-2004, 04:41 AM

The star Sam saw in Mordor?

Evisse the Blue · 06-06-2004, 01:40 AM

Yep, it's the tiny star that brings hope to Sam that beauty is forever and the shadow is only a passing thing.

Congrats, Nightknight!
*hands Nightknight the gold medal*

05-31-2004, 01:35 PM	#1482
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Um, how about the elven people as a whole? Or any people? I don't understand the question, if you mean does it have anything to do with elven people as a whole the answer would be: The book does not specify. the light of Earendil's star? No, but the you're close. The Lay of Leithian?No If not, ist it a Lay? No The Lament for Gandalf? No Is it a song? No Err .... stab in the dark: "In western lands" Sam's song in Cirith Ungol? No __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

05-31-2004, 02:06 PM	#1483
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	The light of the Silmarils? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

06-01-2004, 02:45 AM	#1484
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	The light of the Silmarils? No __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-01-2004, 08:06 AM	#1485
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	I have no clue. This is a good one. Um...howabout....is it a lightsource? __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-01-2004, 11:11 AM	#1486
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	The light the Elessar? __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

05-31-2004, 10:38 AM	#1481
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	I would think they would count as tangible, wouldn't they? Elves I mean; not all at the same time of course but since they are individually, I would have thought they would also be collectively.......but oh I don't know... and it ain't my question

06-01-2004, 01:39 PM	#1487
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	The light the Elessar? -No Um...howabout....is it a lightsource? Yes __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-01-2004, 01:42 PM	#1488
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Is it the Remmirath?

06-01-2004, 01:46 PM	#1489
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Is it the Remmirath? - No __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-01-2004, 01:48 PM	#1490
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Is it a star(s)?

06-01-2004, 01:52 PM	#1491
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Is it a star? Yes. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-01-2004, 01:57 PM	#1492
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Borgil?

06-01-2004, 02:02 PM	#1493
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Borgil? -No __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-01-2004, 02:07 PM	#1494
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	There's one more I can think of without poring through my books.... Is it Menelvagor, the Swordsman in the Sky?

06-02-2004, 01:34 AM	#1495
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Is it the Sickle of the Valar? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-02-2004, 03:38 AM	#1496
Thorongil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Elvenpath Posts: 780	Carnil? __________________ To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. ~Sun Tzu

06-02-2004, 03:50 AM	#1497
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	Helluin? __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

06-02-2004, 09:45 AM	#1498
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Nénar? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

06-02-2004, 02:32 PM	#1499
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Nénar? - No Helluin? - No Carnil? - No Is it the Sickle of the Valar? - No Is it Menelvagor, the Swordsman in the Sky? - No __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-02-2004, 03:05 PM	#1500
Elwe Singollo Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deep in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 88	Nenar __________________ "Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains." - The Doom of Mandos

06-02-2004, 03:06 PM	#1501
Elwe Singollo Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deep in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 88	The sun? The Sun is counted a star in the real world so if you want the elvish name then Anar? __________________ "Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains." - The Doom of Mandos

06-02-2004, 03:57 PM	#1502
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	The Wain?

06-02-2004, 08:13 PM	#1503
Lhundulinwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wishin' and hopin' in the Shire Posts: 139	I don't think this counts as being intangible but- The light from Sting when orcs/goblins are around? __________________ ~Just call on me, and I'm there. I'll always be your Sam~

06-03-2004, 11:14 PM	#1504
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	The light from Sting when orcs/goblins are around? -No The Wain? -No The sun? The Sun is counted a star in the real world so if you want the elvish name then Anar?- No. I suppose the Sun is counted as a star, though __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-04-2004, 08:38 AM	#1505
Elwe Singollo Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deep in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 88	The Valacirya? __________________ "Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains." - The Doom of Mandos

06-04-2004, 08:46 AM	#1506
Elwe Singollo Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deep in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 88	Soronúmë??? I'm really out of guesses here __________________ "Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains." - The Doom of Mandos

06-04-2004, 08:54 AM	#1507
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Soronúmë??? -No The Valacirya? -No You guys should try a different approach here. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-04-2004, 10:43 AM	#1508
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	mental states... hm. Did it evoke a joyful mental state?

06-04-2004, 11:51 AM	#1509
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Morwinyon, AKA Arcturus? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

06-04-2004, 11:54 AM	#1510
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	Is it the star of "Smith of Wootton Major"? __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

06-04-2004, 11:57 AM	#1511
Elwe Singollo Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deep in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 88	The Phial of Galadriel? Its an item but it has starligh light and it is a different approach. __________________ "Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains." - The Doom of Mandos

06-04-2004, 12:49 PM	#1512
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Is it the star of "Smith of Wootton Major"? - No Morwinyon, AKA Arcturus? - No (Never heard of these before, Nightknight. Forgive my ignorance - where are they mentioned?) Did it evoke a joyful mental state? - Yes The Phial of Galadriel? - No Oh and it's not the moon either. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-04-2004, 12:54 PM	#1513
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Eh...I found them on a homepage. Is it a constellation? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

06-04-2004, 12:59 PM	#1514
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	Is it mentioned in the Sil? __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

06-04-2004, 01:14 PM	#1515
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Did it evoke an emotion in more than one person?