What did boromir do in rivendell? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Elmo · 09-30-2012, 02:24 PM

He had no friends, no one to to talk to, he spent about a whole month there, what did he do there? Wake up, have a bit of elvish beef, a few ales then go to sleep. Must have been a lonely nevermind a boring existence even in Rivendell, no wonder he didn't get on that well with the rest of the Walkers. Poor Boromir

Inziladun · 09-30-2012, 08:46 PM

Well, after the Council of Elrond, he might well have sat in on the planning sessions Gandalf and Aragorn surely had. And speaking of Aragorn, I can see Boromir being curious about the line of Isildur and how they had survived, so maybe he passed the time talking to Aragorn, Gandalf, and perhaps Elrond about that.

Mithalwen · 09-30-2012, 10:58 PM

Well he was a bit haughty wasn't he..."we in Gondor".... this "we in Gondor" that... I am sure there was a lot he could learn if he weren't too proud and I don't see why there was noone to talk to ... Dunedain, elves, dwarves. If he were too grand to talk to Glorfindel and co .. more fool him.

Since he had travelled so far alone I expect he would have been glad of the rest and any company going.

William Cloud Hicklin · 10-01-2012, 07:24 AM

One thing he wasn't doing, was playing around with the shards of Narsil.

Otherwise, well, "[Elrond's] house was perfect, whether you liked food, or sleep, or work, or story-telling, or singing, or just sitting and thinking, best, or a pleasant mixture of them all."

Remember, Boromir had some recuperating to do; his journey through Minhiriath and Eriador had been arduous, in fact remarkable, a real Bear Grylls feat.

urbanhiker · 10-01-2012, 02:43 PM

Interesting question, and it brings up another interesting question: if Boromir had been told by Denethor that Elrond was legitimate and trustworthy then why was Boromir so skeptical of Galadriel? He was almost as hesitant to enter Lorien as he was to pass through Moria!

Did Boromir not know of the close relationship and allegiance between Lorien and Rivendell? Or maybe Elrond's history of aiding the Dunedain of Arnor was known in Minas Tirith, whereas Lothlorien was more distant, mysterious, and difficult to comprehend. You'd think someone would have provided a little Elves 101 during a month in Rivendell and another several weeks' travel with Gandalf, Aragorn and Legolas ...

Inziladun · 10-01-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by urbanhiker

Interesting question, and it brings up another interesting question: if Boromir had been told by Denethor that Elrond was legitimate and trustworthy then why was Boromir so skeptical of Galadriel? He was almost as hesitant to enter Lorien as he was to pass through Moria!

While it's possible (or even likely) that Minas Tirith received some news from Elves of Lórien from time to time, the average Gondorian would still have harbored some wariness about Elves in general. That would be in keeping with the Third Age theme of a gradual estrangement and drawing away of the Elves in Middle-earth from the other "speaking peoples". Add in dimly recalled myths and half-truths about Lórien and its Lady remembered in Gondor and Boromir's uneasiness is explained. Boromir wasn't exactly thrilled about Elrond, either. It was only the inability to interpret a strange dream that had the ring of a prophesy that induced Denethor to send Boromir to Rivendell.

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Originally Posted by urbanhiker

Did Boromir not know of the close relationship and allegiance between Lorien and Rivendell? Or maybe Elrond's history of aiding the Dunedain of Arnor was known in Minas Tirith, whereas Lothlorien was more distant, mysterious, and difficult to comprehend. You'd think someone would have provided a little Elves 101 during a month in Rivendell and another several weeks' travel with Gandalf, Aragorn and Legolas ...

Well, Boromir may not have been in on all the planning. He had no knowledge of Moria, after all. He may have simply not looked past the planned crossing over the Dimrill Stair.

Lobelia · 10-17-2012, 05:19 AM

[QUOTE=urbanhiker;675049]

Did Boromir not know of the close relationship and allegiance between Lorien and Rivendell?
Well, yes, Galadriel was Elrond's mother-in-law, after all!

09-30-2012, 02:24 PM	#1
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	What did boromir do in rivendell? He had no friends, no one to to talk to, he spent about a whole month there, what did he do there? Wake up, have a bit of elvish beef, a few ales then go to sleep. Must have been a lonely nevermind a boring existence even in Rivendell, no wonder he didn't get on that well with the rest of the Walkers. Poor Boromir __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

09-30-2012, 08:46 PM	#2
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,036	Well, after the Council of Elrond, he might well have sat in on the planning sessions Gandalf and Aragorn surely had. And speaking of Aragorn, I can see Boromir being curious about the line of Isildur and how they had survived, so maybe he passed the time talking to Aragorn, Gandalf, and perhaps Elrond about that. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

09-30-2012, 10:58 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Well he was a bit haughty wasn't he..."we in Gondor".... this "we in Gondor" that... I am sure there was a lot he could learn if he weren't too proud and I don't see why there was noone to talk to ... Dunedain, elves, dwarves. If he were too grand to talk to Glorfindel and co .. more fool him. Since he had travelled so far alone I expect he would have been glad of the rest and any company going. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-01-2012, 07:24 AM	#4
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,301	One thing he wasn't doing, was playing around with the shards of Narsil. Otherwise, well, "[Elrond's] house was perfect, whether you liked food, or sleep, or work, or story-telling, or singing, or just sitting and thinking, best, or a pleasant mixture of them all." Remember, Boromir had some recuperating to do; his journey through Minhiriath and Eriador had been arduous, in fact remarkable, a real Bear Grylls feat. __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

10-01-2012, 02:43 PM	#5
urbanhiker Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11	Interesting question, and it brings up another interesting question: if Boromir had been told by Denethor that Elrond was legitimate and trustworthy then why was Boromir so skeptical of Galadriel? He was almost as hesitant to enter Lorien as he was to pass through Moria! Did Boromir not know of the close relationship and allegiance between Lorien and Rivendell? Or maybe Elrond's history of aiding the Dunedain of Arnor was known in Minas Tirith, whereas Lothlorien was more distant, mysterious, and difficult to comprehend. You'd think someone would have provided a little Elves 101 during a month in Rivendell and another several weeks' travel with Gandalf, Aragorn and Legolas ...

10-17-2012, 05:19 AM	#7
Lobelia Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 150	[QUOTE=urbanhiker;675049] Did Boromir not know of the close relationship and allegiance between Lorien and Rivendell? Well, yes, Galadriel was Elrond's mother-in-law, after all!