Who Am I? - Page 16 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

01-11-2004, 09:02 PM

I'm going to guess Balin, but don't ask why, cause I'm none to sure.

Lalaith · 01-12-2004, 04:32 AM

Ok, I think a clue is in order...Unfinished Tales.

Gil-Galad · 01-12-2004, 07:41 AM

Aldarion? or Pharazon?

Lalaith · 01-12-2004, 09:45 AM

Another clue:

An angry dog did once me fright,
but I helped a kinswoman in her plight.

Gil-Galad · 01-12-2004, 05:16 PM

Beren? or Finrod?

Celegorm · 01-12-2004, 05:28 PM

Me? Celegorm?

-lost own hall, that's why living in Nargothrond
-honestly only wanted to help Luthien
-Huan -> bad dog
-Celebrimbor didn't come by leaving Nargothrond -> bad nephew

Lalaith · 01-12-2004, 05:30 PM

*tsk* Huan was a lovely dog.

No, I'm afraid none of those are right.

Gil-Galad · 01-13-2004, 04:23 PM

Maedhros?

Lalaith · 01-13-2004, 06:07 PM

No, sorry. Would you like another clue?

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-13-2004, 06:08 PM

Of course I would! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Lalaith · 01-14-2004, 04:33 AM

A small part I played in a tale of woe,
my kin was cursed, I wed my foe.

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-14-2004, 04:56 AM

I'm guessing Aerin.
She was an kinswoman of Hurin, whose family was cursed. She aided Morwen, another kinswoman. She was taken as wife by Brodda the Easterling. Her hall was burned down by Turin Turambar.

Lalaith · 01-14-2004, 06:34 AM

Quite correct!
It was actually she, not Turin, who set fire to her hall after Turin killed Brodda.
"Faint heart is yours...as it was when I called you aunt, and a rough dog frightened you," Turin told her, but afterwards he was rebuked by one of the other men, "she did much good among us at much cost."

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-14-2004, 09:33 AM

Thank you Lalaith.

Challenging I had been,
doomed I became,
buried I was,
till the Heir found me.

Greetings,
EfR

Galadel Vinorel · 01-14-2004, 09:50 AM

Did the Dead under the mountain say that? You know, where Aragorn calls them to rise up and fight for him to fufill their oath. Am I right? [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-14-2004, 09:59 AM

Oh you are so close. What I need is the name of one man in particular who lies under the mountain. But this won't be so difficult, as there are not many choices. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
Good work so far, keep on. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
Greetings,
EfR

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 11:00 AM January 14, 2004: Message edited by: Elrond of Rivendell ]

Kath · 01-14-2004, 01:22 PM

King of the Dead

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-14-2004, 01:28 PM

Actually I wouldn't say that any of the host of the Dead was really "buried" under the Mountains; somehow they were still living when Aragorn meets them.
So you have to think of another character - The King of the Dead is wrong. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Greetings,
EfR

Kath · 01-14-2004, 03:16 PM

Ok well in the book there is a bit where they find a dead man lying by a door that he could not get through.
I can't remember exactly but was it maybe Beren?

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-14-2004, 03:59 PM

It is now the dead man by the door. This one is really "under the Mountain". As for the name of the doorkeeper, I don't know it either. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Greetings,
EfR

Gil-Galad · 01-14-2004, 04:22 PM

I was gonna say Durin's Bane

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-14-2004, 04:32 PM

No, the Paths of the Dead are quite the right track, but I still need a precise name. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Arvedui III · 01-14-2004, 06:04 PM

Wasn't Baldor of Rohan the man who entered the paths of dead and never came back, thereby making him the dead man at the door under the mountain?

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-14-2004, 06:11 PM

Baldor was not the dead man at the door, since his body was found only after 'time unreckoned had passed' since the Grey Company passed the door, but he is exactly what I have been looking for. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Good work, Arvedui. Your turn.
Greetings,
EfR

EDIT: addition

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 7:12 PM January 14, 2004: Message edited by: Elrond of Rivendell ]

Arvedui III · 01-16-2004, 04:40 PM

Ah, I have to ask something now?!? Right, herm...

Alone I wandered under night,
My life was filled with dreadful plight,
I came into a blessed land,
And found a jewel,
a madien's hand.

Gil-Galad · 01-16-2004, 05:18 PM

Eol?

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-16-2004, 05:33 PM

Beren gaining a Silmaril and receiving Luthien's hand?

Arvedui III · 01-16-2004, 06:22 PM

Eol was a good guess, but Elrond has it. It was indeed Beren. Good job.

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-16-2004, 06:49 PM

Thank you Arvedui III. So here we go:

He who by my work can be heard,
fills hearts with joy - but mind!
never stays a longing despair behind.

Greetings,
EfR

Celegorm · 01-19-2004, 07:34 AM

Any hints?

(I can't remember someone creating a telephone. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] )

Gil-Galad · 01-19-2004, 07:49 AM

Illuvatar? or Tom Bombadil?

Samwise · 01-19-2004, 11:19 AM

Gandalf? (As usual, the simple-minded Hobbit has no clue...)

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-19-2004, 12:54 PM

It is none of your guesses.
Try to figure out what quite a lot of people (speaking of races, that is) are longing for.

Samwise · 01-19-2004, 01:16 PM

I still have no clue.

Cidran? (sp?)

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-19-2004, 03:13 PM

No, although Cirdan lived where the longing could be more easily satisfied than for example in Lothlorien. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

EfR

Celegorm · 01-19-2004, 03:21 PM

Ulmo? The longing for the see?

Elrond of Rivendell · 01-19-2004, 03:54 PM

You come very close. But Ulmo = he in my riddle. You have to find out who I am.

EfR

Gil-Galad · 01-19-2004, 04:26 PM

Maglor? his singing brings delight but with despair of the silmarils is always with him

symestreem · 01-19-2004, 04:27 PM

Salmar made the horns of Ulmo, so I'm going to say it's him.

Upon further study I can also tell you that they are called the Ulumuri.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 7:05 PM January 19, 2004: Message edited by: symestreem ]

01-19-2004, 04:35 PM

Is it the sea-gulls? Like when Legolas hears the sound of the gulls he is drawn to the sea.

01-12-2004, 04:32 AM	#602
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,876	Ok, I think a clue is in order...Unfinished Tales. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

01-12-2004, 07:41 AM	#603
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 5,054	Aldarion? or Pharazon? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

01-12-2004, 09:45 AM	#604
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,876	Another clue: An angry dog did once me fright, but I helped a kinswoman in her plight. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

01-12-2004, 05:16 PM	#605
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 5,054	Beren? or Finrod? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

01-12-2004, 05:28 PM	#606
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	Me? Celegorm? -lost own hall, that's why living in Nargothrond -honestly only wanted to help Luthien -Huan -> bad dog -Celebrimbor didn't come by leaving Nargothrond -> bad nephew __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

01-11-2004, 09:02 PM	#601
Tárafëaien Guest Posts: n/a	I'm going to guess Balin, but don't ask why, cause I'm none to sure.

01-12-2004, 05:30 PM	#607
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,876	tsk Huan was a lovely dog. No, I'm afraid none of those are right. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

01-13-2004, 04:23 PM	#608
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 5,054	Maedhros? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

01-13-2004, 06:07 PM	#609
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,876	No, sorry. Would you like another clue? __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

01-13-2004, 06:08 PM	#610
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	Of course I would! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

01-14-2004, 04:33 AM	#611
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,876	A small part I played in a tale of woe, my kin was cursed, I wed my foe. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

01-14-2004, 04:56 AM	#612
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	I'm guessing Aerin. She was an kinswoman of Hurin, whose family was cursed. She aided Morwen, another kinswoman. She was taken as wife by Brodda the Easterling. Her hall was burned down by Turin Turambar.

01-14-2004, 06:34 AM	#613
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,876	Quite correct! It was actually she, not Turin, who set fire to her hall after Turin killed Brodda. "Faint heart is yours...as it was when I called you aunt, and a rough dog frightened you," Turin told her, but afterwards he was rebuked by one of the other men, "she did much good among us at much cost." __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

01-14-2004, 09:33 AM	#614
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	Thank you Lalaith. Challenging I had been, doomed I became, buried I was, till the Heir found me. Greetings, EfR

01-14-2004, 09:50 AM	#615
Galadel Vinorel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien, the Woodlen Realm Posts: 366	Did the Dead under the mountain say that? You know, where Aragorn calls them to rise up and fight for him to fufill their oath. Am I right? [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ “Words can never convey the incredible impact of our attitude toward life. The longer I live the more convinced I become that life is 10 percent what happens to us and 90 percent how we respond to it." -Charles R. Swindoll

01-14-2004, 09:59 AM	#616
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	Oh you are so close. What I need is the name of one man in particular who lies under the mountain. But this won't be so difficult, as there are not many choices. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Good work so far, keep on. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Greetings, EfR <font size=1 color=339966>[ 11:00 AM January 14, 2004: Message edited by: Elrond of Rivendell ]

01-14-2004, 01:22 PM	#617
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,725	King of the Dead __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

01-14-2004, 01:28 PM	#618
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	Actually I wouldn't say that any of the host of the Dead was really "buried" under the Mountains; somehow they were still living when Aragorn meets them. So you have to think of another character - The King of the Dead is wrong. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Greetings, EfR

01-14-2004, 03:16 PM	#619
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,725	Ok well in the book there is a bit where they find a dead man lying by a door that he could not get through. I can't remember exactly but was it maybe Beren? __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

01-14-2004, 03:59 PM	#620
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	It is now the dead man by the door. This one is really "under the Mountain". As for the name of the doorkeeper, I don't know it either. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Greetings, EfR

01-14-2004, 04:22 PM	#621
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 5,054	I was gonna say Durin's Bane __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

01-14-2004, 04:32 PM	#622
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	No, the Paths of the Dead are quite the right track, but I still need a precise name. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

01-14-2004, 06:04 PM	#623
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 631	Wasn't Baldor of Rohan the man who entered the paths of dead and never came back, thereby making him the dead man at the door under the mountain? __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!

01-14-2004, 06:11 PM	#624
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	Baldor was not the dead man at the door, since his body was found only after 'time unreckoned had passed' since the Grey Company passed the door, but he is exactly what I have been looking for. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Good work, Arvedui. Your turn. Greetings, EfR EDIT: addition <font size=1 color=339966>[ 7:12 PM January 14, 2004: Message edited by: Elrond of Rivendell ]

01-16-2004, 04:40 PM	#625
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 631	Ah, I have to ask something now?!? Right, herm... Alone I wandered under night, My life was filled with dreadful plight, I came into a blessed land, And found a jewel, a madien's hand. __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!

01-16-2004, 05:18 PM	#626
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 5,054	Eol? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

01-16-2004, 05:33 PM	#627
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	Beren gaining a Silmaril and receiving Luthien's hand?

01-16-2004, 06:22 PM	#628
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 631	Eol was a good guess, but Elrond has it. It was indeed Beren. Good job. __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!

01-16-2004, 06:49 PM	#629
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	Thank you Arvedui III. So here we go: He who by my work can be heard, fills hearts with joy - but mind! never stays a longing despair behind. Greetings, EfR

01-19-2004, 07:34 AM	#630
Celegorm Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 191	Any hints? (I can't remember someone creating a telephone. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] ) __________________ Namárië! Celegorm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

01-19-2004, 07:49 AM	#631
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 5,054	Illuvatar? or Tom Bombadil? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

01-19-2004, 11:19 AM	#632
Samwise Faithful Spirit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: #3 Bagshot Row, Petaluma, Ca Posts: 2,299	Gandalf? (As usual, the simple-minded Hobbit has no clue...) __________________ Giving thanks unto the Father...In whom we have redemption through His blood, even the forgiveness of sins.~Colossians1:12a,14 * * * * * * * I am Samwise son of Hamfast, if by hoe or trowel I can get these weeds out of your garden, I will.You have my shears!;)

01-19-2004, 12:54 PM	#633
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	It is none of your guesses. Try to figure out what quite a lot of people (speaking of races, that is) are longing for.

01-19-2004, 01:16 PM	#634
Samwise Faithful Spirit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: #3 Bagshot Row, Petaluma, Ca Posts: 2,299	I still have no clue. Cidran? (sp?) __________________ Giving thanks unto the Father...In whom we have redemption through His blood, even the forgiveness of sins.~Colossians1:12a,14 * * * * * * * I am Samwise son of Hamfast, if by hoe or trowel I can get these weeds out of your garden, I will.You have my shears!;)

01-19-2004, 03:13 PM	#635
Elrond of Rivendell Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 261	No, although Cirdan lived where the longing could be more easily satisfied than for example in Lothlorien. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] EfR