Three Wishes - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

davem · 06-23-2006, 01:51 PM

Ok, you can have three Tolkien related wishes. What would they be? Something current but too expensive, something no longer available, something you wish would become available.

My three (none currently available):

'Tolkien in Oxford': a documentary made & broadcast by the BBC in 1967/68. On DVD please. I'd love to see this, as its the only filmed in-depth interview with Tolkien in colour. I've seen clips from it & its fascinating. Probably the most important 'document' available. (Wonder if the Tolkien Estate has any part in its not being released on dvd?)

BBC Jackanory Hobbit: A Children's series where an actor would read a story straight to camera over a week. This was a special, broadcast over two weeks, to celebrate the 2,000 edition More info here
I remember seeing this as a teenager. There was something special about it for me - the 'woodland grove' set, the actors/storytelllers. Hope I wouldn't be disappointed if I saw it again. Like the BBC Radio LotR it came out in my early Tolkien days, so it has special memories for me.

Tolkien's translation of Beowulf. His own translation of his first love. I'd love to see what he brought to it.

Only three remember....

Brinniel · 06-23-2006, 03:07 PM

Ok, here goes:

1) A first edition copy of "The Hobbit"

2) A chance to hear Tolkien talk about his writing (in person)

3) An autobiography of Tolkien

Lalwendë · 06-23-2006, 03:18 PM

davem's in the bath so I can't clarify the rules, so here goes...

1. A BBC Drama of Lord of the Rings, full budget, top actors, totally honest to the book, as long as it takes to televise the full series. Produced by someone with my vision. Meh.

2. A whole lot more of the weird unpublished stuff like Osanwe Kenta. Mmmmmm.....

3. Tolkien's diaries. If he wrote them, I don't know.

davem · 06-24-2006, 03:40 AM

Ok, didn't clarify the rules- has to be something with personal relevance to you. I've just gone back & added a bit to my original post. You can't just have all first editions, or signed letters so you can brag about them.

narfforc · 06-24-2006, 06:32 AM

Ugh Davem doing his Ulmo impersonations.........................Anyway here are my three wishes

1. A 3D computer programme allowing anyone (Me in particular) to visit any place on the map of Arda, watch the whole history unfold before your eyes, to be able to change or influence key moments playing as Iluvatar or Morgoth.

2. To have enough money to own a real cave just like Azogs

3. To be given just five minutes with Tolkien whilst alive.

Lalwendë · 06-24-2006, 01:30 PM

Back to Neil Gaiman again (a fave topic

), I was reading Volume 4 of Sandman today again, and noticed something in one of the stories that fascinated me. It was about Lucien, Dream's assistant. He keeps a library of the stories that authors dreamed and thought about but did not finish. On the shelf behind him are some of the books, including a weighty looking tome, JRR Tolkien's The Lost Road.

I'll bet some would wish to look in that library.

radagastly · 06-24-2006, 10:21 PM

I'll bite.

1) Two mint first editions of "The Hobbit." One to sell for gobs of money, and one to savor. I'm not much on "collectables," but I wouldn't mind reading the original version of "Riddles in the Dark."

2) A lengthy interview with Christopher Tolkien about his father's work. The 'once removed' factor whoud provide even more insight than his father coud give, and his insights as a scholar, as well as J.R.R.'s son, should be recorded in his own voice in as much detail as can be provided.

3) A highlight tour of Arda. It would start in Valinor and move outward through Tol Eressea to Numenor and north through all of Beleriand, and then eastward through Middle Earth from the north kingdom to Gondor and back out to sea past Numenor just as it was going under and then back to Valinor and then beyond the circles of the world through the Void and ending in a glimpse of Eru.

davem · 06-25-2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Radaghastly

1) Two mint first editions of "The Hobbit." One to sell for gobs of money, and one to savor. I'm not much on "collectables," but I wouldn't mind reading the original version of "Riddles in the Dark."

I can grant your wish - well, here's the original version of Riddles in the Dark at least.

HerenIstarion · 06-25-2006, 04:02 AM

1) To be back in 1988-89, when I've accidentaly discovered the Hobbit on my bookshelf, to stand before this bookshelf taking out books at random to stumble upon TH and decide to read it.

2) To be back in 1993, walking in the book-market beneath the "Dry Bridge" in Tbilisi, to see The Ruturn of The King I've been waiting for two years and have money on me to buy it

3) To go to Oxford in 1937, just after publication of the Hobbit, and accidentaly make acquaintance of Tolkien in the Eagle and Child (and become friends, of course)

radagastly · 06-25-2006, 07:49 AM

davem

Thanks for the link. I guess Gollum was not such a bad chap originally.

zifnab · 06-26-2006, 10:22 AM

Lets see. I'm gonna cross off the material items firstly, and go straight for the impossible list (except of course for numero uno).

1. Something current but too expensive - To participate/organize (in) some sort of Tolkien convention.

2. Something no longer available - Glorfindel's 'True and Accurate' biography.

3. Something you wish would become available - To be hidden as Tolkien reads a bed-time story to his children. I don't know why. But I think it would help in telling me what type of man he was.

You see, all simple things.

06-23-2006, 01:51 PM	#1
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Three Wishes Ok, you can have three Tolkien related wishes. What would they be? Something current but too expensive, something no longer available, something you wish would become available. My three (none currently available): 'Tolkien in Oxford': a documentary made & broadcast by the BBC in 1967/68. On DVD please. I'd love to see this, as its the only filmed in-depth interview with Tolkien in colour. I've seen clips from it & its fascinating. Probably the most important 'document' available. (Wonder if the Tolkien Estate has any part in its not being released on dvd?) BBC Jackanory Hobbit: A Children's series where an actor would read a story straight to camera over a week. This was a special, broadcast over two weeks, to celebrate the 2,000 edition More info here I remember seeing this as a teenager. There was something special about it for me - the 'woodland grove' set, the actors/storytelllers. Hope I wouldn't be disappointed if I saw it again. Like the BBC Radio LotR it came out in my early Tolkien days, so it has special memories for me. Tolkien's translation of Beowulf. His own translation of his first love. I'd love to see what he brought to it. Only three remember.... __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects." Last edited by davem; 06-24-2006 at 03:38 AM.

06-23-2006, 03:07 PM	#2
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	Ok, here goes: 1) A first edition copy of "The Hobbit" 2) A chance to hear Tolkien talk about his writing (in person) 3) An autobiography of Tolkien __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

06-23-2006, 03:18 PM	#3
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	davem's in the bath so I can't clarify the rules, so here goes... 1. A BBC Drama of Lord of the Rings, full budget, top actors, totally honest to the book, as long as it takes to televise the full series. Produced by someone with my vision. Meh. 2. A whole lot more of the weird unpublished stuff like Osanwe Kenta. Mmmmmm..... 3. Tolkien's diaries. If he wrote them, I don't know. __________________ Gordon's alive!

06-24-2006, 03:40 AM	#4
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Ok, didn't clarify the rules- has to be something with personal relevance to you. I've just gone back & added a bit to my original post. You can't just have all first editions, or signed letters so you can brag about them. __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."

06-24-2006, 06:32 AM	#5
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	Ugh Davem doing his Ulmo impersonations.........................Anyway here are my three wishes 1. A 3D computer programme allowing anyone (Me in particular) to visit any place on the map of Arda, watch the whole history unfold before your eyes, to be able to change or influence key moments playing as Iluvatar or Morgoth. 2. To have enough money to own a real cave just like Azogs 3. To be given just five minutes with Tolkien whilst alive. __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

06-24-2006, 01:30 PM	#6
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	Back to Neil Gaiman again (a fave topic ), I was reading Volume 4 of Sandman today again, and noticed something in one of the stories that fascinated me. It was about Lucien, Dream's assistant. He keeps a library of the stories that authors dreamed and thought about but did not finish. On the shelf behind him are some of the books, including a weighty looking tome, JRR Tolkien's The Lost Road. I'll bet some would wish to look in that library. __________________ Gordon's alive!

06-24-2006, 10:21 PM	#7
radagastly Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D. C., USA Posts: 299	I'll bite. 1) Two mint first editions of "The Hobbit." One to sell for gobs of money, and one to savor. I'm not much on "collectables," but I wouldn't mind reading the original version of "Riddles in the Dark." 2) A lengthy interview with Christopher Tolkien about his father's work. The 'once removed' factor whoud provide even more insight than his father coud give, and his insights as a scholar, as well as J.R.R.'s son, should be recorded in his own voice in as much detail as can be provided. 3) A highlight tour of Arda. It would start in Valinor and move outward through Tol Eressea to Numenor and north through all of Beleriand, and then eastward through Middle Earth from the north kingdom to Gondor and back out to sea past Numenor just as it was going under and then back to Valinor and then beyond the circles of the world through the Void and ending in a glimpse of Eru. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before, I listen for returning feet and voices at the door.

06-25-2006, 04:02 AM	#9
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	all impossible, of course... but requirements as set did not rule that out... 1) To be back in 1988-89, when I've accidentaly discovered the Hobbit on my bookshelf, to stand before this bookshelf taking out books at random to stumble upon TH and decide to read it. 2) To be back in 1993, walking in the book-market beneath the "Dry Bridge" in Tbilisi, to see The Ruturn of The King I've been waiting for two years and have money on me to buy it 3) To go to Oxford in 1937, just after publication of the Hobbit, and accidentaly make acquaintance of Tolkien in the Eagle and Child (and become friends, of course) __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

06-25-2006, 07:49 AM	#10
radagastly Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D. C., USA Posts: 299	davem Thanks for the link. I guess Gollum was not such a bad chap originally. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before, I listen for returning feet and voices at the door.

06-26-2006, 10:22 AM	#11
zifnab Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: omni-presence Posts: 329	Who'da a thunk it? Lets see. I'm gonna cross off the material items firstly, and go straight for the impossible list (except of course for numero uno). 1. Something current but too expensive - To participate/organize (in) some sort of Tolkien convention. 2. Something no longer available - Glorfindel's 'True and Accurate' biography. 3. Something you wish would become available - To be hidden as Tolkien reads a bed-time story to his children. I don't know why. But I think it would help in telling me what type of man he was. You see, all simple things. __________________ Facebook.