What's a Vanyar? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 06-05-2002, 09:19 PM

I put my name into the name generator(Gimli Son Of Glóin) and it said I was a "Hideous Balrog". I put in just my first name(Gimli) and it said I was some sort of Vanyar. What's a Vanyar?

Elrian · 06-05-2002, 09:25 PM

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it said I was a "Hideous Balrog".

Edible crunchy dwarf must not be programmed in there yet! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

The Vanyar were the first kindred of Elves and the first to go to Valinor to dwell in the First Age.

[ June 05, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ]

Thalionyulma · 06-06-2002, 05:49 AM

They are The People of Ingwë. The Vanyar are one of the elven kindreds. Also known as fair elves or light-elves.

All of the Vanyar journeyed to Valinor long before the beginning of the First Age and stayed there. That's why they are not mentioned often in the histories of Middle Earth.

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 06-06-2002, 08:16 PM

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Naaramare · 06-06-2002, 09:16 PM

:: pats Gimli on the head:: Calm yourself, master dwarf. No one could ever possibly mistake you for an elf. As an elf, I know this. Besides, Vanyar aren't all that bad . . .a little vague and mystical, what with all that "sitting at the feet of Manwe and Varda" but hey, not everyone can be Noldoran . . .

Jessica Jade · 06-08-2002, 03:01 PM

I'm wondering now, which were Higher, the Noldor or the Vanyar? I always thought it was the Vanyar, but not I'm not so sure. They never really did anything except stay in Valinor.

Naaramare · 06-08-2002, 03:56 PM

The Vanyar like to think they are . . .we Noldo have given up arguing with them, but we know the truth.

[Seriously? considering all the things the Noldor did--the two Kinslayings, defying the Valar, etc--the Vanyar.]

Tarthang · 06-08-2002, 05:14 PM

It should also be mentioned that the Vanyar have light colored hair.

Joy · 06-09-2002, 01:13 PM

Gimli, just be thankful it didn't come up as "A Beautiful Balrog"! One of my friends got this recently. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

BTW, Tarthang, it was the Noldor that had light hair.

Elrian · 06-09-2002, 01:17 PM

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BTW, Tarthang, it was the Noldor that had light hair.

Only The house of Finarfin was said to have golden hair, his mother was Indis of the Vanyar. The Vanyar are described as being golden haired and the smallest of the Elven kindreds

Joy · 06-09-2002, 01:59 PM

Opps [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img] . I just knew that Galadriel was a Noldor and she had golden hair.

Brinniel · 06-09-2002, 02:14 PM

Hmm....I put my name in-Brinniel-and got 'incognito umbarian.' What would that be?

Elrian · 06-09-2002, 02:34 PM

An undercover citizen of Umbar which was home to many Black Numenoreans and a coastal city of Harad. They were in alliance with Sauron. Welcome to the Downs by the way! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

TarElendil · 06-12-2002, 11:41 AM

The Vanyar(as described in the sil)- The first host of the Eldar on the westward journey from Cuiviénen led by Ingwë. Singular Vanya means "fair."

Ingwe was considered the King of all Elves. The Vanyar loved poetry (which Manwe gave them much help) and songs.

Legolas · 06-13-2002, 05:19 PM

"Noldoran" = Noldorin

Seems like a true Noldorin would know how to spell the name of her kindred.

Naaramare · 06-13-2002, 07:01 PM

Only if one was remarkably foolish. After all, I hardly write in roman english characters all that often, now, do I? ^~ Foolish human spelling. . . bah, humbug.

06-05-2002, 09:19 PM	#1
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	What's a Vanyar? I put my name into the name generator(Gimli Son Of Glóin) and it said I was a "Hideous Balrog". I put in just my first name(Gimli) and it said I was some sort of Vanyar. What's a Vanyar? __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

06-06-2002, 08:16 PM	#4
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	YOU MEAN I'M AN ELF! I'M A DWARF FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

06-06-2002, 09:16 PM	#5
Naaramare Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Fort St John Posts: 196	:: pats Gimli on the head:: Calm yourself, master dwarf. No one could ever possibly mistake you for an elf. As an elf, I know this. Besides, Vanyar aren't all that bad . . .a little vague and mystical, what with all that "sitting at the feet of Manwe and Varda" but hey, not everyone can be Noldoran . . . __________________ "I once spent two weeks in a tree trying to talk to a bird." --Puck, Brother Mine si man i yulma nin equantuva? [my blog]

06-08-2002, 03:01 PM	#6
Jessica Jade Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tirion upon Túna, Atlanta Posts: 154	I'm wondering now, which were Higher, the Noldor or the Vanyar? I always thought it was the Vanyar, but not I'm not so sure. They never really did anything except stay in Valinor. __________________ http://www.cadential64.com The musicians had indeed laid bare the youngest, most innocent of our ideas of life, the indestructible yearning for the way things aren't and can never be. ~ Philip Roth, The Human Stain

06-08-2002, 03:56 PM	#7
Naaramare Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Fort St John Posts: 196	The Vanyar like to think they are . . .we Noldo have given up arguing with them, but we know the truth. [Seriously? considering all the things the Noldor did--the two Kinslayings, defying the Valar, etc--the Vanyar.] __________________ "I once spent two weeks in a tree trying to talk to a bird." --Puck, Brother Mine si man i yulma nin equantuva? [my blog]

06-06-2002, 05:49 AM	#3
Thalionyulma Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: across the sea Posts: 295	They are The People of Ingwë. The Vanyar are one of the elven kindreds. Also known as fair elves or light-elves. All of the Vanyar journeyed to Valinor long before the beginning of the First Age and stayed there. That's why they are not mentioned often in the histories of Middle Earth.

06-08-2002, 05:14 PM	#8
Tarthang Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Paths of the Dead Posts: 108	It should also be mentioned that the Vanyar have light colored hair.

06-09-2002, 01:13 PM	#9
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,014	Gimli, just be thankful it didn't come up as "A Beautiful Balrog"! One of my friends got this recently. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] BTW, Tarthang, it was the Noldor that had light hair. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

06-09-2002, 01:59 PM	#11
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,014	Opps [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img] . I just knew that Galadriel was a Noldor and she had golden hair. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

06-09-2002, 02:14 PM	#12
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,999	Hmm....I put my name in-Brinniel-and got 'incognito umbarian.' What would that be? __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

06-09-2002, 02:34 PM	#13
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	An undercover citizen of Umbar which was home to many Black Numenoreans and a coastal city of Harad. They were in alliance with Sauron. Welcome to the Downs by the way! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

06-12-2002, 11:41 AM	#14
TarElendil Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Armenelos Posts: 136	The Vanyar(as described in the sil)- The first host of the Eldar on the westward journey from Cuiviénen led by Ingwë. Singular Vanya means "fair." Ingwe was considered the King of all Elves. The Vanyar loved poetry (which Manwe gave them much help) and songs.

06-13-2002, 05:19 PM	#15
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,850	"Noldoran" = Noldorin Seems like a true Noldorin would know how to spell the name of her kindred. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

06-13-2002, 07:01 PM	#16
Naaramare Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Fort St John Posts: 196	Only if one was remarkably foolish. After all, I hardly write in roman english characters all that often, now, do I? ^~ Foolish human spelling. . . bah, humbug. __________________ "I once spent two weeks in a tree trying to talk to a bird." --Puck, Brother Mine si man i yulma nin equantuva? [my blog]