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06-08-2019, 09:49 AM | #2761 |
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How about Fangorn? Wokia says he might have been named after Fangorn Forest.
I can't find anyone else named after a tree
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06-08-2019, 10:29 AM | #2762 |
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I thought it was named after him... but then his name contains "tree" anyway. Not him though.
"Orn", as in "Fangorn", is the Sindarin for "tree". You need the Quenya word.
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06-08-2019, 10:43 AM | #2763 |
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Time to consult my good friend, Parf Edhellen, then.
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06-08-2019, 10:45 AM | #2764 |
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I see. I thought so but wasn't sure. The other is Tar-Aldarion.
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06-09-2019, 03:38 AM | #2765 |
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That's it! Well done.
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06-09-2019, 03:53 AM | #2766 |
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I lived in a land without hate
With my apprentices three But by the hands of fate All three were taken from me The first one, second in command Of the Enemy, Marrer of lands I am one of those who guard the light Even if it's him I'd have to fight The second one, overtaken by greed He dwelt high up in his tower The destroyer of my beloved's creation All because he sought power The third one, greatest of them all With skill beyond measure Great was his fall Blessed was his treasure I lived in that land With my apprentices three Now here's the riddle Who are they, and who am I?
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06-09-2019, 05:57 AM | #2767 |
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I think the speaker is Aulë, and the "apprentices" are, in order, Sauron, Saruman and Fëanor. Explanation to follow.
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06-09-2019, 06:10 AM | #2768 |
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Looking forward to seeing it.
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06-09-2019, 06:21 AM | #2769 |
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I lived in a land without hate -Valinor.
With my apprentices three But by the hands of fate All three were taken from me The first one, second in command Of the Enemy, Marrer of lands -describes Sauron. I am one of those who guard the light Even if it's him I'd have to fight -confirms speaker as a good character, therefore not Morgoth, therefore the only other person to whom Sauron was an "apprentice": Aulë. The second one, overtaken by greed He dwelt high up in his tower The destroyer of my beloved's creation All because he sought power -Saruman, also a Maia of Aulë, lived in Orthanc and his extensive tree-felling can't have endeared him to Yavanna. The third one, greatest of them all With skill beyond measure Great was his fall Blessed was his treasure -Feanor, whose "blessed treasure" was of course the Silmarils.
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06-09-2019, 06:32 AM | #2770 |
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Entirely correct.
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06-10-2019, 06:04 AM | #2771 |
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Okay, I think you'll like this one.
Father of traitors yet none to myself Friend to neither Man nor Elf Lover and slayer of kin and of foe My own I will take and by choice I will go.
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06-10-2019, 06:15 AM | #2772 |
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It's the father of wrench-owned one, ain't he?
And, actually, it's the opposite. I don't like him at all. He is number 2 on my hate list, right after Phary. And technically, he isn't a father of 'traitors', as he only had one child before that entire family went bazinga.
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06-10-2019, 06:19 AM | #2773 |
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Well, hang on, who do you think the answer is?
I assure you the plural is deliberate. Edit: did you just put the actual guess in? I didn't see it before. Yes, it's Eöl- but can you explain it all?
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06-10-2019, 06:44 AM | #2774 |
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Father of traitors yet none to myself - Aglanchel and Lomion his children
Friend to neither Man nor Elf - Debatable, considering who eventually received Anglachel and who his family were Lover and slayer of kin and of foe My own I will take and by choice I will go. - More or less his mindset and words in the Silm But, like I said, I don't like him at all.
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06-10-2019, 07:17 AM | #2775 |
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So, do I get to go now.....?
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06-10-2019, 07:25 AM | #2776 |
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Yep!
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06-10-2019, 07:30 AM | #2777 |
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Here is one about two characters I do like.
Fire you were named for And, originally, so was I Renowned you were, and I was not And death was what we got The vast lands of Beleriand Neither of us got to see I was too weak to live You were too fey to wait or flee
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06-10-2019, 07:59 AM | #2778 |
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I think the speaker is your namesake, Urwen/Lalaith, and the one addressed is Fëanor.
Fire you were named for And, originally, so was I -"Spirit of fire" and "Fire-maiden" Renowned you were, and I was not And death was what we got -I don't think this needs elaboration. The vast lands of Beleriand Neither of us got to see -Neither Dor-lómin, where Lalaith lived out her short life, nor Mithrim, where Fëanor died, are part of Beleriand proper. I was too weak to live You were too fey to wait or flee -She died from a childhood illness; he was killed in battle due to his recklessness.
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06-10-2019, 08:11 AM | #2779 |
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Ye, though I didn't know that neither Dor-Lomin or Mithrim were a part of Beleriand.
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06-10-2019, 08:19 AM | #2780 |
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A bit of trivia: the places where they died are right next to each other on this map:
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Only the Finarfinions were able to admit that yes, actually, it was all Thingol's and he was very generous to let them muck about in it. (And then of course the Feanorions migrated south, losing even that shred of justification...) hS |
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06-10-2019, 08:31 AM | #2782 |
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Anyway, over to Nerwen
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06-11-2019, 06:12 AM | #2783 |
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Nothing, and a jewel incomplete;
To my heirs a jewel I bequeathed; Long treasured, long drowned, For a jewel my jewel was found.
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06-11-2019, 06:35 AM | #2784 |
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Hmm. 'Long drowned', of a jewel, makes me think of the original Elendilmir, which went into the river with Isildur. It was found by Saruman looking for the Ring, so 'for a jewel [it] was found' would fit.
'Long treasured' also fits: it was an heirloom of Andunie since Silmarien. 'To my heirs a jewel I bequeathed' says the speaker must be one of its bearers before its loss: Silmarien, Valandil, Earendur, Amandil, Elendil, or Isildur. So 'Nothing, and a jewel incomplete' sounds like a cryptic/spell-it-out line. SILMARIEN? Her name is mostly an incomplete Silmaril, with just 'en/ne' left over as 'nothing'. hS |
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However, by "for a jewel my jewel was found" I meant, "to be worn by Elessar" and I was think of the last part of Silmarien's name being "rien" (i.e. "nothing" in French). Over to you!
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06-11-2019, 07:55 AM | #2786 |
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Ohhh yeah, Elessar. Forgot about him in my haste to rush to Saruman. ^_^
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06-11-2019, 08:27 AM | #2787 |
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Makes me think of Aredhel, who forced Eol to follow her&her protector to 'light'.
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Sounds like Jean Valjean hunting for Cosette, (without the magic), but I have a feeling that isn't the answer.
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Luthien?
Under shadow, under earth, By foul magics hid from sight. - Tol-in-Gaurhoth, controlled by Sauron's evil magics To the deepest place I venture - Self-explanatory And its denizen bring to light. - Beren
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So 'hid from sight' is the key line? And the answer is a person?
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Ah-ha, I've got it! You said my Luthien guess was close, meaning that the subject of the riddle rescue someone they loved from captivity in a dark place. Let me check whether what I've got in mind is accurate.
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Never mind, for the denizen I thought of was imprisoned far above, not far below.
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Is it Gandalf and the Balrog? Although he didn't seek him out on purpose.
He did find Thrain, though, in the pits of Dol Guldur.
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Not Gandalf's 'rescue' of Theoden?
(I have a feeling I am getting colder).
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