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Mithalwen · 10-09-2005, 10:24 AM

I am going to have to say something in favour of chains The independent bookstore in the town where I tend to shop was absolute rubbish. It is so much better in every respect now it is Ottakars and they had most of HoME in stock as standard. The others and "The Road goes ever on" they obtained with great efficiency.

Hilde Bracegirdle · 10-09-2005, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lalaith

I frequently use abebooks, and I like to telephone the bookshops that come up with the volumes I want to make my purchase, rather than just order them impersonally through the net.

Now, that is a wonderful idea, Lalaith!

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Originally Posted by Lalwendë

They don't seem to encourage that sort of thing in the big chain bookshops, which is one of the reasons I don't find browsing in them all that pleasurable.

Ah, things are different in the US! The truly big chains have very comfortable chairs and coffee shop so you can read to your heart's delight. You don't even have to leave for lunch. My daughter even read half of one of the Lemony Snickett books aloud to me at Borders one snowy afternoon. It is a lovely memory. But I think it is a good choice. I know that I have yet to leave a Border's without making a purchase, even if it is small one.

The only thing that might be an improvement would be to have a used book section, treasure trove filled with books you wouldn't normally see in stores with only new ones, (and perhaps the addition of a few cats).

Sorry Mithalwen, I did not see your post. Good to see that not all big stores are bad there as well!

***Mister Underhill*** · 10-09-2005, 12:51 PM

The best thing about a good used-book shop is the smell -- that musty, musky, ancient spice smell of aging books. I imagine the archives at Minas Tirith smell much the way my favorite used bookstore down on San Fernando smells.

There's also nothing like unearthing a buried treasure from the stacks, some old volume by a favorite author that's long since out of print. I have several old collections of Robert E. Howard stories and a handful of Max Brand westerns, each purchased for two dollars or less a throw.

Mithalwen · 10-09-2005, 01:21 PM

My only Tolkien bargain was picking up a hardback copy of the biography in a remainder bookshop soon after I first read LOTR. Even so it cost about a week abnd a half's income.....

Bêthberry · 10-10-2005, 07:52 AM

Hmmm. Isn't it a good thing that books are neither a Ring nor a Simaril? Or perhaps...

Aiwendil · 10-10-2005, 08:56 AM

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Isn't it a good thing that books are neither a Ring nor a Simaril? Or perhaps...

What, am I the only one who's taken an oath to pursue with vengeance "whoso hideth or hoardeth or in hand taketh my Tolkien books"?

Lalwendë · 11-08-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Hmmm. Isn't it a good thing that books are neither a Ring nor a Simaril? Or perhaps...

I think you may be tempted by this rare gem I found on ebay.

Of course, if anyone is hoping that Father Christmas may pop this rather expensive gift in their stocking this Christmas, then they will have to have been very, very good indeed. And make sure to leave him not just a glass of sherry but a barrel of the stuff.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 11-10-2005, 11:08 AM

A barrel, Lalwendë? Surely nothing short of the Armada's displacement in fortified wine and a decade of angelic behaviour will do. Looks as though I'm out of the running, but I might pick up that sherry anyway.

Normally when it comes to books I don't mind which edition I'm reading, although like a number of other members, I prefer to get my books from strange little second-hand shops. There used to be one in Colchester a while ago, which my friends there called 'The Fairy Regio' (a reference to the Ars Magica RPG system), and which we assumed only appeared at certain times. Perhaps that's where they go, just as Terry Pratchett suggested.

Completely by accident I managed to pick up an early Silmarillion from 1977 (not the genuine first edition, but a virtual facsimile of it) by pursuing exactly this second-hand-only policy. It has a large fold-out map of Beleriand, which is a lot easier to read than the version printed in most editions, and since it's neither a particularly rare nor particularly valuable edition, I'm safe to use it for everyday reading.

My other Tolkien treasures were the result of a temporarily large surplus income (largely the product of poor diet and inexpensive hobbies). The first of these was a first edition of Pictures by J.R.R. Tolkien, which a friend of mine sold to me because he had the pictures elsewhere. It has that air of opulent naffness exuded by so many things from the 1970s (the opulence was lost somewhere around 1982, never to return), and has an enormous picture inside the flyleaf of the man himself, predictably smoking a pipe in front of a shelf of books and wearing a tweed jacket. The second of these treasured volumes is my favourite edition.

The most beloved Tolkien book in a library of second-hand, out-of-print, odd, rare, foreign-language and sometimes terrible volumes, is my first edition set of LotR. I have three late impressions, all roughly contemporary and dating from the early 1960s, which I picked up from Oxfam in Colchester a couple of years ago. A story about my purchase appeared in a local newspaper, which interviewed and photographed me for the purpose; clearly they were short of stories in Essex that month.

Anyway, how shall I laud the first edition to the stars? Firstly, it has the best dust jacket anyone has ever used for an LotR edition. Forget hiking Gandalfs, psychedelic trees and film screen-shots: in 1954 they were iconic, simple and demographically non-specific, not to mention leaving the entire story to the imagination. They also bound the volumes in red cloth, which was a nice touch. Then there were the fold-out maps (seldom if ever reproduced since), which are in red and black on white. The map in the back of The Return of the King deserves particular mention, since it has 'Kirith Ungol' in place of the more usual spelling. I think that HoME has the gen on this development.

Other than that, the first edition is the one JRRT and CJRT use in their page references, which saves a lot of hunting around for quotations, and it has a different and friendlier author's forward, which I posted a while ago here.

Of course, most of the time I use my HarperCollins all-in-one hardback. No sense wearing out the Sunday best in daily use.

10-09-2005, 10:24 AM	#41
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,916	I am going to have to say something in favour of chains The independent bookstore in the town where I tend to shop was absolute rubbish. It is so much better in every respect now it is Ottakars and they had most of HoME in stock as standard. The others and "The Road goes ever on" they obtained with great efficiency. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-09-2005, 01:21 PM	#44
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,916	My only Tolkien bargain was picking up a hardback copy of the biography in a remainder bookshop soon after I first read LOTR. Even so it cost about a week abnd a half's income..... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-10-2005, 07:52 AM	#45
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,170	Hmmm. Isn't it a good thing that books are neither a Ring nor a Simaril? Or perhaps... __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

11-10-2005, 11:08 AM	#48
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	The best edition my money could no longer buy A barrel, Lalwendë? Surely nothing short of the Armada's displacement in fortified wine and a decade of angelic behaviour will do. Looks as though I'm out of the running, but I might pick up that sherry anyway. Normally when it comes to books I don't mind which edition I'm reading, although like a number of other members, I prefer to get my books from strange little second-hand shops. There used to be one in Colchester a while ago, which my friends there called 'The Fairy Regio' (a reference to the Ars Magica RPG system), and which we assumed only appeared at certain times. Perhaps that's where they go, just as Terry Pratchett suggested. Completely by accident I managed to pick up an early Silmarillion from 1977 (not the genuine first edition, but a virtual facsimile of it) by pursuing exactly this second-hand-only policy. It has a large fold-out map of Beleriand, which is a lot easier to read than the version printed in most editions, and since it's neither a particularly rare nor particularly valuable edition, I'm safe to use it for everyday reading. My other Tolkien treasures were the result of a temporarily large surplus income (largely the product of poor diet and inexpensive hobbies). The first of these was a first edition of Pictures by J.R.R. Tolkien, which a friend of mine sold to me because he had the pictures elsewhere. It has that air of opulent naffness exuded by so many things from the 1970s (the opulence was lost somewhere around 1982, never to return), and has an enormous picture inside the flyleaf of the man himself, predictably smoking a pipe in front of a shelf of books and wearing a tweed jacket. The second of these treasured volumes is my favourite edition. The most beloved Tolkien book in a library of second-hand, out-of-print, odd, rare, foreign-language and sometimes terrible volumes, is my first edition set of LotR. I have three late impressions, all roughly contemporary and dating from the early 1960s, which I picked up from Oxfam in Colchester a couple of years ago. A story about my purchase appeared in a local newspaper, which interviewed and photographed me for the purpose; clearly they were short of stories in Essex that month. Anyway, how shall I laud the first edition to the stars? Firstly, it has the best dust jacket anyone has ever used for an LotR edition. Forget hiking Gandalfs, psychedelic trees and film screen-shots: in 1954 they were iconic, simple and demographically non-specific, not to mention leaving the entire story to the imagination. They also bound the volumes in red cloth, which was a nice touch. Then there were the fold-out maps (seldom if ever reproduced since), which are in red and black on white. The map in the back of The Return of the King deserves particular mention, since it has 'Kirith Ungol' in place of the more usual spelling. I think that HoME has the gen on this development. Other than that, the first edition is the one JRRT and CJRT use in their page references, which saves a lot of hunting around for quotations, and it has a different and friendlier author's forward, which I posted a while ago here. Of course, most of the time I use my HarperCollins all-in-one hardback. No sense wearing out the Sunday best in daily use. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 11-10-2005 at 11:12 AM.

10-09-2005, 12:51 PM	#43
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,752	The best thing about a good used-book shop is the smell -- that musty, musky, ancient spice smell of aging books. I imagine the archives at Minas Tirith smell much the way my favorite used bookstore down on San Fernando smells. There's also nothing like unearthing a buried treasure from the stacks, some old volume by a favorite author that's long since out of print. I have several old collections of Robert E. Howard stories and a handful of Max Brand westerns, each purchased for two dollars or less a throw.