So, were the Ringwraiths cool or what! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lily · 07-01-2003, 09:32 PM

I thought the Ringwraiths were the coolest thing when I saw the movie and when I heard them being described in the book! Their sound was awsome! Their clothes (if you want to call them clothes) were freaky yet cool! Their horses were the scariest thing I ever saw (not really but they were still scary). I just loved how they did them. Especially the Wraiths on Wings! They were so cool and so scary! Now this is my opinion what's yours? (also I would like to hear comments about the cartoon Ringwraiths, my opinion they were very werid and a little funny.)

Meela · 07-02-2003, 04:58 AM

The cartoon wraiths were... well, I can't remember, but I'm sure they were as amusing as the other characters The wraiths were superb! I loved the costumes and there were some great shots of them just stood still astride their horses. But their shrieking... *shudders* it genuinely terrified me! Which is a good sign, I suppose, as PJ has obviously portrayed them well if they can really scare people. The wraiths on wings just made me laugh. I definitely preferred the horses. (And for some reason, in my head the wraiths are riding those little lawn mowers that you drive around on...)

The Only Real Estel · 07-02-2003, 08:53 AM

The Ringwraiths were awesome!

Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 07-02-2003, 10:38 AM

Ringwraiths on lawnmowers would be scary! They could mow you down in a second. *cackle cackle* Sorry...pun.The live action Nazgul were so cool. The actors and actresses playing them had to wear 50 metres of black robes! I loved the way their armour was evil-looking. It looked as if you would touch it and it would cut your hand.Now, the cartoon Nazgul...when I first saw the cartoon of LotR, I must say that they freaked me out. Their walk was freaky! A sort of stumbling, dragging, limping walk. But after I saw the whole movie, I started laughing because of everything else so the scaryness of the Nazgul went away. When they were "uncloaked", so to speak, (I'm thinking of Bakshi here) they looked half live action and half cartoon. It was weird.

Tarien Ithil · 07-02-2003, 11:44 AM

The Wraiths were very well done. Their screams were rather frightening *feels a chill go through spine* But they were very believable.

Daisy Brambleburr · 07-02-2003, 12:28 PM

The cartoon wraiths were funny. They seemed to walk with a limp and were incapable of contolling their horses. The film wraiths were much better. The black riders were pretty terrifying. You could imagine them riding up behind you on a dark night... But I didn't like the dragons as much. To me they just looked like spiked worms. They weren't terrible, but not brilliant. But some people think their great. Oh well, to each his (or her) own. But I did like Gollums 'wraiths with wings' comment!

Darby · 07-02-2003, 01:36 PM

The Ringwraiths were very cool. They didn't creep and sniff and smell around the way I imagined them doing in the book, but they looked great. They were very scary and seemed like a genuine threat. I also thought the glimpse Frodo had of them when he had the Ring on was right on - they looked very kingly and very dead. It took me a bit to get used to the sounds they make in the movie, though. My first vision of the Wraiths was formed by Bakshi's movie (my copy of LOTR had a movie still of the Riders on it - actually it looked pretty good). This movie takes that look and makes it even better. But my sense of how they should sound was heavily influenced by the BBC radio play - because that was my first exposure to anything LOTR. So, the Wraiths weren't whistley enough, and Viggo-Aragorn's voice was too high pitched, and small things like that seemed wrong the first time I saw the movie. Now, however, I'm almost used to that weird scream the Wraiths do, and Viggo seems just right (most of the time - at least he doesn't lisp like Robert Thith-ith--the-thword-that-wath-broken Stephens).

peonydeepdelver · 07-03-2003, 03:30 PM

I liked how PJ didn't give the wraiths those corny red eyes like the cartoon wraiths had. Also, I liked how the Ringwraiths were something that you could really be able to have nightmares about, unlike the ones made by Bakshi *laughs at Bakshi's sad attempt at Ringwraiths*.

Duncariel · 07-03-2003, 03:47 PM

I can scream like a ringwraith...They were very well done. They had to be, considering the budget of the movies and the quality of the other characters. I did think that the needed to do more crawling about and sniffing though. The things that the wraiths fly on weren't creepy enough. I always thought they would look more, well, slightly dead. They're skin was too smooth.When my little brother first saw FotR, he thought the wraiths were singing. [ July 03, 2003: Message edited by: Duncariel ]

Tarien Ithil · 07-15-2003, 12:05 PM

Were the wraiths supposed to crawl and sniff? I pictured them as freakish, ghostly spirits on horses, like in the movies.

Roccotari Eldandil · 07-29-2003, 12:03 AM

I thought they were absolutely terrifying. But they did need to do more sniffing, although all of the appropriate parts for this were more or less cut out of the movie: before Gildor, on the way to the Old Forest, etc. Perhaps their voices could have been less hissing, too. It seemed to me that they spoke semi-normally, just with a creepy edge, in the books.

Genevieve · 07-29-2003, 03:43 PM

They were about the freakiest thing I've seen. Shudder. I think they were protrayed (or whatever) very well, although I was under the impression after reading the books that they could actually speak. I dunno, but they are really cool anyways.

HCIsland · 07-29-2003, 04:43 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> although I was under the impression after reading the books that they could actually speak. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> They speak in the movies, though admittedly it's kept to a minimum."Shire? Baggins?"and"Give up the halfling she-elf." H.C.

Sauron 666 · 07-30-2003, 03:48 PM

I loved the Nazgul, my absolute favourite scene in FOTR is on Weathertop when the NAzgul are converging on the fellowship, the way they hold their swords and then go into an attack posture...its so eerie and beautiful. THe screetches frightened me the first time i heard them. I liked how they did the NAzgul voices. I'm curious how they're gonna do the Lord of Morgul. I love the BBC LOTR (i still think its the best adaptation of any of Tolkein's work) but i'm not sure i like how they portrayed the Lord of the NAzgul as just having a regular voice (though it is cool to hear him say "I am the Lord of the NAzgul, servant of Sauron the GReat!!) I just rented the animated LOTR the other night, out of curiosity and didn't really like the Nazgul, i didn't find them as frightning. I actually thing the animated LOTR is incredibly horribly done, no attention to detail (all the prononciations for Balin, Saruman, Sauron, Celeborn, Theoden, etc are comlpetely wrong.), the animation itself is of very ppor quality...., everything about that film is mediocre at best.

Arwen Eruantale · 07-30-2003, 04:26 PM

The Ringwraiths were awesome! I actually imagined those screams just as they were, so the only reason they were a bit freaky was because the first time I heard them, I was sure it was my imagination.

Lëowen · 07-31-2003, 06:21 PM

The Nazgul were my absolute favourite things in the movie! I thought the screeching noise they did was wonderfully scary, but their speaking voices were much too high-pitched. Who's going to be frightened by a Ringwraith who sounds like he's on helium?

Tarien Ithil · 08-02-2003, 12:03 PM

I liked the Nazgul because, as you said leowen, they give you a wonderful scared feeling. I love the thrill and chills that run done my spine when they scream! Hmmmm..I wonder how they got that scream to such a high key!

Arwen Eruantale · 08-02-2003, 02:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I wonder how they got that scream to such a high key!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmmm... Mariah Carey sound familiar?

Fedaeglin · 08-10-2003, 06:41 AM

I like their swords. They are SHINY!

Marroc Underhill · 08-10-2003, 06:56 AM

Ya, I like the Sword of the Witch King.

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 08-10-2003, 07:37 AM

The Ringwraiths were cool but I was a bit disappointed 'cause I wasn't scared when I saw them on screen.Basically their clothes are awesome and their screaming is well done (cheers to that man -whose name I can't remember- who did the screaming to the movie!).They move smoothly, they kind of float which should be scary and even their horses look evil...but I just can't feel "the chill going through spine" <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The things that the wraiths fly on weren't creepy enough. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I agree! They looked so "hi! I'm a computer animation"-like if you know what I mean.I haven't seen the cartoon version of LotR but just some screen captures - and I'm very happy thet I haven't seen more!It reminds me of the Smurffs (do you spell it that way?) [ August 10, 2003: Message edited by: dancing spawn of ungoliant ]

Cleansed Curunir · 08-12-2003, 12:34 PM

They were really creepy. I get a shiver everytime I see them.

The Only Real Estel · 08-12-2003, 01:06 PM

I thought they were fine. Some people think they look like over-sized worms with wings, but that's just them. I didn't really care that they weren't freaky, 'cause their horsees weren't freaky either. I loved the way the 'winged beasts' were introduced, though. At first you think the Blackrider is just on a wimpy horse (especially if you're a non-book reader), & then it turns out that he's flying on this gigantic thing! That was pretty cool.

Arwen Eruantale · 08-12-2003, 07:28 PM

Yeah, they were awesome. That has to be one of my favourite scenes.

07-01-2003, 09:32 PM	#1
Lily Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wouldn't you like to know!! Posts: 72	So, were the Ringwraiths cool or what! I thought the Ringwraiths were the coolest thing when I saw the movie and when I heard them being described in the book! Their sound was awsome! Their clothes (if you want to call them clothes) were freaky yet cool! Their horses were the scariest thing I ever saw (not really but they were still scary). I just loved how they did them. Especially the Wraiths on Wings! They were so cool and so scary! Now this is my opinion what's yours? (also I would like to hear comments about the cartoon Ringwraiths, my opinion they were very werid and a little funny.)

07-02-2003, 04:58 AM	#2
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	The cartoon wraiths were... well, I can't remember, but I'm sure they were as amusing as the other characters <P>The wraiths were superb! I loved the costumes and there were some great shots of them just stood still astride their horses. But their shrieking... shudders it genuinely terrified me! Which is a good sign, I suppose, as PJ has obviously portrayed them well if they can really scare people.<BR>The wraiths on wings just made me laugh. I definitely preferred the horses. (And for some reason, in my head the wraiths are riding those little lawn mowers that you drive around on...) __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

07-02-2003, 10:38 AM	#4
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	Ringwraiths on lawnmowers would be scary! They could mow you down in a second. cackle cackle Sorry...pun.<P>The live action Nazgul were so cool. The actors and actresses playing them had to wear 50 metres of black robes! I loved the way their armour was evil-looking. It looked as if you would touch it and it would cut your hand.<P>Now, the cartoon Nazgul...when I first saw the cartoon of LotR, I must say that they freaked me out. Their walk was freaky! A sort of stumbling, dragging, limping walk. But after I saw the whole movie, I started laughing because of everything else so the scaryness of the Nazgul went away. When they were "uncloaked", so to speak, (I'm thinking of Bakshi here) they looked half live action and half cartoon. It was weird. __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

07-02-2003, 11:44 AM	#5
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	The Wraiths were very well done. <BR>Their screams were rather frightening feels a chill go through spine <P>But they were very believable. __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

07-02-2003, 12:28 PM	#6
Daisy Brambleburr Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 334	The cartoon wraiths were funny. They seemed to walk with a limp and were incapable of contolling their horses.<BR>The film wraiths were much better. The black riders were pretty terrifying. You could imagine them riding up behind you on a dark night...<BR>But I didn't like the dragons as much. To me they just looked like spiked worms. They weren't terrible, but not brilliant. But some people think their great. Oh well, to each his (or her) own. But I did like Gollums 'wraiths with wings' comment! __________________ 'What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve? Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.'

07-02-2003, 08:53 AM	#3
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	The Ringwraiths were awesome!

07-02-2003, 01:36 PM	#7
Darby Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The land of ice and snow. Posts: 32	The Ringwraiths were very cool. They didn't creep and sniff and smell around the way I imagined them doing in the book, but they <i>looked</i> great. They were very scary and seemed like a genuine threat.<BR>I also thought the glimpse Frodo had of them when he had the Ring on was right on - they looked very kingly and very dead.<BR>It took me a bit to get used to the sounds they make in the movie, though.<BR>My first vision of the Wraiths was formed by Bakshi's movie (my copy of LOTR had a movie still of the Riders on it - actually it looked pretty good). This movie takes that look and makes it even better. But my sense of how they should sound was heavily influenced by the BBC radio play - because that was my first exposure to anything LOTR. So, the Wraiths weren't whistley enough, and Viggo-Aragorn's voice was too high pitched, and small things like that seemed wrong the first time I saw the movie.<BR>Now, however, I'm almost used to that weird scream the Wraiths do, and Viggo seems just right (most of the time - at least he doesn't lisp like Robert Thith-ith--the-thword-that-wath-broken Stephens). __________________ My favorite scene that never made it into the movie: "By Elbereth and Luthien the fair," said Frodo with a last effort, lifting up his sword, "You shall have neither the Ring nor me!"

07-03-2003, 03:30 PM	#8
peonydeepdelver Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alas, I hail from Massachusetts Posts: 256	I liked how PJ didn't give the wraiths those corny red eyes like the cartoon wraiths had. Also, I liked how the Ringwraiths were something that you could really be able to have nightmares about, unlike the ones made by Bakshi laughs at Bakshi's sad attempt at Ringwraiths. __________________ "Nazgul, Nazgul! You speak of what is deep beyond the reach of your muddy dreams, Ugluk! Nazgul! Ah! All that they make out! One day you'll wish that you had not said that. Ape! You ought to know that they're the apple of the Great Eye." ~Grishnakh

07-03-2003, 03:47 PM	#9
Duncariel Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Land of the Ice and Snow Posts: 226	I can scream like a ringwraith...<P>They were very well done. They had to be, considering the budget of the movies and the quality of the other characters. I did think that the needed to do more crawling about and sniffing though. The things that the wraiths fly on weren't creepy enough. I always thought they would look more, well, slightly dead. They're skin was too smooth.<P>When my little brother first saw FotR, he thought the wraiths were singing. <p>[ July 03, 2003: Message edited by: Duncariel ] __________________ Middle-earth: Insanity "What, the peons aren't trusted?" -- Yazoo, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children

07-15-2003, 12:05 PM	#10
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Were the wraiths supposed to crawl and sniff? I pictured them as freakish, ghostly spirits on horses, like in the movies. __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

07-29-2003, 12:03 AM	#11
Roccotari Eldandil Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the stables of Lorien Posts: 79	I thought they were absolutely terrifying. But they did need to do more sniffing, although all of the appropriate parts for this were more or less cut out of the movie: before Gildor, on the way to the Old Forest, etc. Perhaps their voices could have been less hissing, too. It seemed to me that they spoke semi-normally, just with a creepy edge, in the books. __________________ "Come, come!" he shouted, swinging his axe. "Since Gandalf's head is now sacred, let us find one that is right to cleave!" -Gimli, after hearing Galadriel's message to him in TTT

07-29-2003, 03:43 PM	#12
Genevieve Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Where am I? Huh? I'm lost! Posts: 50	They were about the freakiest thing I've seen. Shudder. I think they were protrayed (or whatever) very well, although I was under the impression after reading the books that they could actually speak. I dunno, but they are really cool anyways. __________________ No thought was put into this I always knew it would come to this. Things have never been so swell I have never failed to feel Pain.

07-29-2003, 04:43 PM	#13
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> although I was under the impression after reading the books that they could actually speak. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>They speak in the movies, though admittedly it's kept to a minimum.<P>"Shire? Baggins?"<P>and<P>"Give up the halfling she-elf." <P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

07-30-2003, 03:48 PM	#14
Sauron 666 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	I loved the Nazgul, my absolute favourite scene in FOTR is on Weathertop when the NAzgul are converging on the fellowship, the way they hold their swords and then go into an attack posture...its so eerie and beautiful. THe screetches frightened me the first time i heard them. <P>I liked how they did the NAzgul voices. I'm curious how they're gonna do the Lord of Morgul. I love the BBC LOTR (i still think its the best adaptation of any of Tolkein's work) but i'm not sure i like how they portrayed the Lord of the NAzgul as just having a regular voice (though it is cool to hear him say "I am the Lord of the NAzgul, servant of Sauron the GReat!!) <P>I just rented the animated LOTR the other night, out of curiosity and didn't really like the Nazgul, i didn't find them as frightning. I actually thing the animated LOTR is incredibly horribly done, no attention to detail (all the prononciations for Balin, Saruman, Sauron, Celeborn, Theoden, etc are comlpetely wrong.), the animation itself is of very ppor quality...., everything about that film is mediocre at best. __________________ Ash Nazg Durbatuluk Ash Nazg Gimbatul Ash Nazg Thrakatuluk Arg Burzum-Ishi Krimpatul

07-30-2003, 04:26 PM	#15
Arwen Eruantale Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: My Field of Paper Flowers Posts: 282	The Ringwraiths were awesome! <P>I actually imagined those screams just as they were, so the only reason they were a bit freaky was because the first time I heard them, I was sure it was my imagination. __________________ And he became somewhat grim to look upon, unless he chanced to smile... Will you pay attention?

07-31-2003, 06:21 PM	#16
Lëowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: my computer chair, being smothered by my impossibly large cat Posts: 93	The Nazgul were my absolute favourite things in the movie! I thought the screeching noise they did was wonderfully scary, but their speaking voices were much too high-pitched. Who's going to be frightened by a Ringwraith who sounds like he's on helium? __________________ Be individual! Join the millions of other people also being individual! Prevent Merry Abuse! Join S.A.M!

08-02-2003, 12:03 PM	#17
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	I liked the Nazgul because, as you said leowen, they give you a wonderful scared feeling. I love the thrill and chills that run done my spine when they scream! <P>Hmmmm..I wonder how they got that scream to such a high key! __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

08-02-2003, 02:55 PM	#18
Arwen Eruantale Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: My Field of Paper Flowers Posts: 282	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I wonder how they got that scream to such a high key!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hmmm... Mariah Carey sound familiar? __________________ And he became somewhat grim to look upon, unless he chanced to smile... Will you pay attention?

08-10-2003, 06:41 AM	#19
Fedaeglin Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: A friendly place Posts: 11	I like their swords. They are SHINY! __________________ I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

08-10-2003, 06:56 AM	#20
Marroc Underhill Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In The Deep Places Of The World Posts: 61	Ya, I like the Sword of the Witch King. __________________ Hail to the Lords of Angmar, for we are the true power!

08-10-2003, 07:37 AM	#21
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	The Ringwraiths were cool but I was a bit disappointed 'cause I wasn't scared when I saw them on screen.Basically their clothes are awesome and their screaming is well done (cheers to that man -whose name I can't remember- who did the screaming to the movie!).They move smoothly, they kind of float which should be scary and even their horses look evil...but I just can't feel "the chill going through spine"<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The things that the wraiths fly on weren't creepy enough. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I agree! They looked so "hi! I'm a computer animation"-like if you know what I mean.<P>I haven't seen the cartoon version of LotR but just some screen captures - and I'm very happy thet I haven't seen more!It reminds me of the Smurffs (do you spell it that way?) <p>[ August 10, 2003: Message edited by: dancing spawn of ungoliant ] __________________ Fenris Wolf

08-12-2003, 12:34 PM	#22
Cleansed Curunir Newly Deceased Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: purified Isengard Posts: 10	They were really creepy. I get a shiver everytime I see them.

08-12-2003, 01:06 PM	#23
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	I thought they were fine. Some people think they look like over-sized worms with wings, but that's just them. I didn't really care that they weren't freaky, 'cause their horsees weren't freaky either. I loved the way the 'winged beasts' were introduced, though. At first you think the Blackrider is just on a wimpy horse (especially if you're a non-book reader), & then it turns out that he's flying on this gigantic thing! That was pretty cool.

08-12-2003, 07:28 PM	#24
Arwen Eruantale Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: My Field of Paper Flowers Posts: 282	Yeah, they were awesome. That has to be one of my favourite scenes. __________________ And he became somewhat grim to look upon, unless he chanced to smile... Will you pay attention?