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Old 11-22-2022, 11:07 AM   #12241
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1. At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
2. A third of this is what we need Ė due to answer number five? Or at Bombadilís - for cut knees, perhaps?
3. Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? Thatís a first!
4. Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
5. Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
6. Itís both long and longed for Ė by a dwarf. Go fourth.
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Old 11-23-2022, 10:01 PM   #12242
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#1 and #6 are giving me Galadriel vibes. #1 sounds like Sam's speech to Faramir (but which of the similes?), and #6 sounds like the lock she gives to Gimli (but again, by what synonym? Lock? Hair? Strand? Tress?).
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Old 11-24-2022, 07:24 AM   #12243
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1. At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
2. A third of this is what we need Ė due to answer number five? Or at Bombadilís - for cut knees, perhaps?
3. Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? Thatís a first!
4. Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
5. Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: Itís both long and longed for Ė by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Any will do fine for 6.

For 1, the answer is indeed in one of the similes.
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Old 01-08-2023, 01:06 PM   #12244
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Old 01-11-2023, 03:21 PM   #12245
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Hints?
OK!

Number 3 has a very similar answer to Number 5.

and

Galadriel was very close to solving clue 1, (upthread).
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Old 01-12-2023, 03:09 AM   #12246
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For #1, we're looking at this quote:

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Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender like. Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight. Warm as sunlight, cold as frost in the stars. Proud and far-off as a snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass I ever saw with daisies in her hair in springtime. But that's a lot o' nonsense, and all wide of my mark.
Since the clue is "fair as", I would guess either GREAT TREE or DAFFADOWNDILLY... um, DAFFODIL for the answer.

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DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
2. A third of this is what we need – due to answer number five? Or at Bombadil’s - for cut knees, perhaps?
3. Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? That’s a first!
4. Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
5. Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: It’s both long and longed for – by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Hence the 'At last.'
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I solved a clue
I solved a clue for you
Oh what a thing to do!
And is the code YELLOW?


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Old 01-12-2023, 10:40 AM   #12249
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DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
????E???? A third of this is what we need – due to answer number five? Or at Bombadil’s - for cut knees, perhaps?
L?????? Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? That’s a first!
????L????Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
????O???? Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: It’s both long and longed for – by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Indeedydo.
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Okay, so: 3 and 5 are very similar. I think 3 might be another 'Someone's Something'. That means 5 is either the same person or the same thing. Additionally, 2 references 'answer number 5', which likely means the, uh, actual answer to question 5. So solving any of these three will help with the other two.

The letters we will need are 3rd - 1st - 2nd - probably 3rd.

If the Bombadil reference is direct, then things called yellow at Tom and Goldberry's are:

- Her hair
- His boots
- Cream
- The sunrise

CREAM seems to fit best, though I don't think the sort of cream Tom serves would go well on your knees!

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Old 01-13-2023, 09:42 AM   #12251
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DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
CREAM: A third of this is what we need Ė due to answer number five? Or at Bombadilís - for cut knees, perhaps?
L?????? Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? Thatís a first!
????L????Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
????O???? Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: Itís both long and longed for Ė by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Yes. Bombabil particularly refers to yellow cream, amongst other foodstuffs.

You are right about the positions of the 'red' letters, too.
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Old 01-23-2023, 10:52 AM   #12252
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I am gonna throw out LOCKS and ELANOR for the first two of the remaining clues. Locks, because it sounds like it should be hair. And Elanor because the letter fits.
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Old 01-23-2023, 10:54 AM   #12253
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I am gonna throw out LOCKS and ELANOR for the first two of the remaining clues. Locks, because it sounds like it should be hair. And Elanor because the letter fits.
It's LOCKS OF someone, but which blondie do we see being a pretty much full time housekeeper?

(Also, locks have keys, and so do housekeepers).
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Old 01-24-2023, 07:31 AM   #12254
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DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
CREAM: A third of this is what we need Ė due to answer number five? Or at Bombadilís - for cut knees, perhaps?
L: Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? Thatís a first!
ELANOR: Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
????O???? Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: Itís both long and longed for Ė by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Oh, sorry! You were guessing ELANOR for the 4th clue.

Quiet rightly. Because you would need an understudy if there were NO LEAR in the building.

Number 3 is LOCKS OF someone, but please say who, (see my post upthread).
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It's LOCKS OF someone, but which blondie do we see being a pretty much full time housekeeper?
LOCKS OF GOLDBERRY? I think I remember enumerating her as something yellow when I was figuring out cream.

On no more basis that this and 5 are "very similar", I'm going to guess BOOTS OF BOMBADIL for 5.

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Old 01-24-2023, 12:14 PM   #12256
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DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
CREAM: A third of this is what we need – due to answer number five? Or at Bombadil’s - for cut knees, perhaps?
LOCKS OF GOLDBERRY: Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? That’s a first!
ELANOR: Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
????O???? Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: It’s both long and longed for – by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Sorry; it's 3 and 6 that are very similar, (as you can see).

Tom's boots are wrong, I'm afraid.
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For the remaining clue:

What's another reason you might need cream, besides cut knees or a dessert?

Think of it, and put it into Sindarin.
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For the remaining clue:

What's another reason you might need cream, besides cut knees or a dessert?

Think of it, and put it into Sindarin.
But Pervinca, there are no Sindarin words for "sunburn" or "scones".

... which actually isn't true, there's an old proto-Sindarin word torn meaning "sunburnt". But I don't think that's going to fly.

Is it just ANOR, the Sun? I'm sure someone calls it yellow sometime.

... ah, and a horse with highlights is a roan. Not a word I knew. Is "take nought" just straight-up telling us the answer is "O"?

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Ah. Yellow Face. *facepalm*

"Roan" has been hammered into my head by bio classes as an example of genetic codominance, but I have not thought to (accurately) describe it as highlights. Nicely put.
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Old 01-30-2023, 11:21 AM   #12260
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DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
CREAM: A third of this is what we need Ė due to answer number five? Or at Bombadilís - for cut knees, perhaps?
LOCKS OF GOLDBERRY: Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? Thatís a first!
ELANOR: Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
ANOR: Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: Itís both long and longed for Ė by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Yes to all the above, including nought to indicate the letter O, and third for its position.

The sun *is* yellow, isn't it, more or less?

And one talks of sun cream, the preventative ointment.

Not sunburn cream - that would be calamine lotion!



Over to Huey!
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DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
CREAM: A third of this is what we need Ė due to answer number five? Or at Bombadilís - for cut knees, perhaps?
LOCKS OF GOLDBERRY: Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? Thatís a first!
ELANOR: Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
ANOR: Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: Itís both long and longed for Ė by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Yes to all the above, including nought to indicate the letter O, and third for its position.

The sun *is* yellow, isn't it, more or less?

And one talks of sun cream, the preventative ointment.

Not sunburn cream - that would be calamine lotion!



Over to Huey!

(P.S. ELANOR was from NO LEAR, in case you missed that bit upthread).
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The sun *is* yellow, isn't it, more or less?
[Facepalm] It took me until you posted this - not even me posting the answer! - to remember that "the yellow eye, it burns us" is literally the second-most-quoted LotR line in this house. (First place goes to the movies' "I don't think he's heard of second breakfast, Pip", because the kids have picked up on that one.)

I will try and come up with something today.

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Okay! This is not a cryptic puzzle (other than in the sense that it might be confusing). The numbers are just which letter to use; as you can see, I really wanted them to all be the same, but it didn't work out.

1. - Where the last of his line on a hoard laid a curse, (6)
2. - And the same was a hostage and traitor or worse; (6)
3. - Where the eldest awoke and saw mist on his breath, (7)
4. - And where greed-addled minds plotted elder king's death; (6)
5. - Whence came those who bore up the king on his fall, (7)
6. - And the name of the pit in the language of all. (6)

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1. Sarn Athrad?
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I'll also go ahead and throw Maeglin for 2, because 'traitor'.
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Or maybe Mim, if the clues 1 and 2 are a pair.
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Or maybe Mim, if the clues 1 and 2 are a pair.
So I also read the first clue as likely relating to Mim. What other cursed hoards are there? There is the Doriath loot, but I don't think there's the last of a line involved. Smaug was the last great dragon, but I don't think his hoard was specifically cursed, no one laid a curse on it. I thought that Mim was the only one who fit the bill.

And therefore where would be in NARGOTHROND, while the second would be at AMON RUDH.

If 4 is a reference to Thingol's death by greedy / insulted Dwarves, then in DORIATH.

5 sounds like a reference to 4, but this really doesn't sound like Thingol. What it does sound like is the Dwarves of BELEGOST bearing away their fallen kind Azaghal during the Nirnaeth.

There is very much a Dwarven flavour to this, I think. I thought 3 would be DURIN, but I can't find mention of mist on his breath in Gimli's Durin song, and besides it doesn't have enough letters.

Then, when I first read "pit" my mind went to Tol-in-Gaurhoth. However, this is a Dwarven pit, in the Common speech - and therefore DWARROWDELF?
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I am not the puzzle maker, but I think only the first two answers you gave are right, because the password won't make sense otherwise (unless Huey chose a nonsense password.)
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I'll also go ahead and throw Maeglin for 2, because 'traitor'.
Are not right, but,

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Or maybe Mim, if the clues 1 and 2 are a pair.
has the correct traitor (but is not the answer).

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So I also read the first clue as likely relating to Mim. What other cursed hoards are there? There is the Doriath loot, but I don't think there's the last of a line involved. Smaug was the last great dragon, but I don't think his hoard was specifically cursed, no one laid a curse on it. I thought that Mim was the only one who fit the bill.
As far as I know, he is.

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And therefore where would be in NARGOTHROND, while the second would be at AMON RUDH.
These are the right locations, but not the right names.

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If 4 is a reference to Thingol's death by greedy / insulted Dwarves, then in DORIATH.
That's the reference, but not where his death was plotted.

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5 sounds like a reference to 4, but this really doesn't sound like Thingol. What it does sound like is the Dwarves of BELEGOST bearing away their fallen kind Azaghal during the Nirnaeth.
Correct location (well done!), but again the wrong name.

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There is very much a Dwarven flavour to this, I think. I thought 3 would be DURIN, but I can't find mention of mist on his breath in Gimli's Durin song, and besides it doesn't have enough letters.
Durin is the eldest here, but is not the answer.

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Then, when I first read "pit" my mind went to Tol-in-Gaurhoth. However, this is a Dwarven pit, in the Common speech - and therefore DWARROWDELF?
Once again the right location - but not the right name. Who said Common speech? (Or in other words: all what?)

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I am not the puzzle maker, but I think only the first two answers you gave are right, because the password won't make sense otherwise (unless Huey chose a nonsense password.)
As if I would! (I totally would, by accident if nothing else.) But not on this occasion.

Because I'm being picky about precise names, I'll sum up the above hints:

1 - name for Nargothrond
2 - name for Amon Rudh
3 - something about Durin
4 - something about plotting Thingol's death
5 - name for Belegost
6 - name for Moria

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Old 02-06-2023, 09:43 AM   #12270
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2. Bar-En-Danwedh/Sharbhund?
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NulukkhizdÓn for 1, and Khazad for password?
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5 and 6 are Gabilgathol and Khazad-Dum.
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5 and 6 are Gabilgathol and Khazad-Dum.
Oh you are on fire today. (Not actually, despite the name.)

NULUKKHIZDIN - Where the last of his line on a hoard laid a curse, (6)
SHARBHUND - And the same was a hostage and traitor or worse; (6)
3. ??????A- Where the eldest awoke and saw mist on his breath, (7)
4. ?????Z - And where greed-addled minds plotted elder king's death; (6)
GABILGATHOL - Whence came those who bore up the king on his fall, (7)
KHAZAD-DUM - And the name of the pit in the language of all. (6)

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Titles motivate me.

As does anything related to...well, us.
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3. Gundabad?
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And that leaves No...I mean, Tumunzahar, as the last one.
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And that leaves No...I mean, Tumunzahar, as the last one.
NULUKKHIZDIN - Where the last of his line on a hoard laid a curse, (6)
SHARBHUND - And the same was a hostage and traitor or worse; (6)
GUNDABAD- Where the eldest awoke and saw mist on his breath, (7)
TUMUNZAHAR - And where greed-addled minds plotted elder king's death; (6)
GABILGATHOL - Whence came those who bore up the king on his fall, (7)
KHAZAD-DUM - And the name of the pit in the language of all. (6)

This is a closed set - as far as I can tell, these are the only six dwarven residences named in Khuzdul. I'm slightly surprised Tolkien never wrote down a name for Erebor, but apparently he didn't.

For the first time in my memory, that's a clean sweep for one person - congrats Urwen for all six clues and the password. The floor is yours.

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Actually, Galadriel did the heavy lifting, but thank you!

This is a mirror password.

1. It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
2. Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
3. The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
4. A line of defense was here. (4)
5. Green, and one of the six. (3)
6. The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
7. It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

You'll be familiar with clue 1, Huinesoron. And 2, and 3, and there is that pesky 7 too. And I know the answers to every one of them.
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What happened to Pervinca? Is she sick, or just busy?
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What happened to Pervinca? Is she sick, or just busy?
Hopefully not sick!


1. NAROG - born at Eithel Ivrin

3. NEN LALAITH?

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