Lost Tales - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Tigerlily Gamgee · 04-02-2002, 10:37 AM

OK, I know that there are many books of lost tales & I plan on getting all of them eventaully, but...
What are all of the books?
Can someone list me the titles of all of the books of Lost Tales so that I know I am not missing one. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Ithilwen · 04-02-2002, 04:31 PM

The entire series is composed of 12 separate volumes, and is collectively titled The History of Middle Earth, generally abbreviated HoME. The titles of the individual volumes in the series, in order, are:

1. The Book of Lost Tales, part 1
2. The Book of Lost Tales, part 2
3. The Lays of Beleriand
4. The Shaping of Middle Earth
5. The Lost Road
6. The Return of the Shadow
7. The Treason of Isengard
8. The War of the Ring
9. Sauron Defeated
10. Morgoth's Ring
11. The War of the Jewels
12. The Peoples of Middle Earth

Volumes 6-9 consist of rough drafts of the Lord of the Rings, and this part of the series is also subtitled The History of The Lord of the Rings - volumes 1-4

While I love the HoME, most of it is rather academic - it's often tough reading, as most of the series consists of early drafts of the Silmarillion (which changed GREATLY over the course of Tolkien's life!). Don't even THINK about tackling it (except for the 4 volumes concerning the Lord of the Rings) until you are very familiar with the Silmarillion. The most accessable of the books, IMHO, are the last three volumes in the series, and volume 3 (the Lays) if you enjoy poetry.

04-02-2002, 04:54 PM

Yep, I think 1 and 2 are hard work at times. I've read the ones that show the early drafts of Lord of the Rings and I love them. But I've read LotR about 50 times, so I know it inside out. Unless you really know LotR well, its not the thing to go for.

On the other hand if you've read LotR and Silmarillion, I'd recommend Unfinished Tales as the next thing to look at.

Tigerlily Gamgee · 04-02-2002, 05:57 PM

Thank you! You guys are great! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Birdland · 04-02-2002, 07:16 PM

Tigerlily - I don't think you necessarily need to jump in at the beginning and read them straight through. Just "browse" in the areas that interest you, and it will probably lead to more questions that will lead you to pursue other volumes.

I myself started with Volume 6: The Return of the Shadow. It's not really complete tales so much as rough drafts of the LoTR, and shows the development of the novel.

I find it facsinating reading: should have realized that a novel of this size didn't just spring out of Tolkien's head like Venus on a half-shell.

If nothing else it makes me VERY thankful that the original name for Meriadoc was given to the lead character, ("...and 'Bingo' was his name...OHHH?), and that Meriadoc was not saddled for all posterity with the name "Marmaduke"! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Starbreeze · 04-04-2002, 02:45 PM

Does anyone know any where or any publishers that do them? I can't find them anywhere. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Bruce MacCulloch · 04-04-2002, 03:01 PM

Del Rey publishes the paperbacks currently.

Ithilwen · 04-04-2002, 04:25 PM

Starbreeze, I got all 12 volumes from Amazon.com; I think you'll find that most local bookstores won't have the complete set (and many won't have any volumes in the series!), so you'll almost certainly have to order them online or place a special order at the local bookstore. The first 5 volumes are in paperback, but the remaining volumes I believe are only available in hardcover at this time.

Aralaithiel · 04-04-2002, 04:56 PM

I got mine at amazon.com as well. They have a really good deal on them. I am reading The Lost Raod right now, as it has the Quenya word etymologies in it. I would definitely heed the other's advice and read The Silmarillion first, then read Unfinished Tales before tackling theses babies!
Good luck! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

04-02-2002, 10:37 AM	#1
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	Lost Tales OK, I know that there are many books of lost tales & I plan on getting all of them eventaully, but... What are all of the books? Can someone list me the titles of all of the books of Lost Tales so that I know I am not missing one. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

04-02-2002, 04:31 PM	#2
Ithilwen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: western Arda Posts: 41	The entire series is composed of 12 separate volumes, and is collectively titled The History of Middle Earth, generally abbreviated HoME. The titles of the individual volumes in the series, in order, are: 1. The Book of Lost Tales, part 1 2. The Book of Lost Tales, part 2 3. The Lays of Beleriand 4. The Shaping of Middle Earth 5. The Lost Road 6. The Return of the Shadow 7. The Treason of Isengard 8. The War of the Ring 9. Sauron Defeated 10. Morgoth's Ring 11. The War of the Jewels 12. The Peoples of Middle Earth Volumes 6-9 consist of rough drafts of the Lord of the Rings, and this part of the series is also subtitled The History of The Lord of the Rings - volumes 1-4 While I love the HoME, most of it is rather academic - it's often tough reading, as most of the series consists of early drafts of the Silmarillion (which changed GREATLY over the course of Tolkien's life!). Don't even THINK about tackling it (except for the 4 volumes concerning the Lord of the Rings) until you are very familiar with the Silmarillion. The most accessable of the books, IMHO, are the last three volumes in the series, and volume 3 (the Lays) if you enjoy poetry. __________________ And thus it came to pass that the Silmarils found their long homes: one in the airs of heaven, and one in the fires of the heart of the world, and one in the deep waters.

04-02-2002, 05:57 PM	#4
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	Thank you! You guys are great! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

04-04-2002, 02:45 PM	#6
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	Does anyone know any where or any publishers that do them? I can't find them anywhere. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

04-04-2002, 03:01 PM	#7
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	Del Rey publishes the paperbacks currently. __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

04-02-2002, 04:54 PM	#3
Variag of Khand Guest Posts: n/a	Yep, I think 1 and 2 are hard work at times. I've read the ones that show the early drafts of Lord of the Rings and I love them. But I've read LotR about 50 times, so I know it inside out. Unless you really know LotR well, its not the thing to go for. On the other hand if you've read LotR and Silmarillion, I'd recommend Unfinished Tales as the next thing to look at.

04-02-2002, 07:16 PM	#5
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	Tigerlily - I don't think you necessarily need to jump in at the beginning and read them straight through. Just "browse" in the areas that interest you, and it will probably lead to more questions that will lead you to pursue other volumes. I myself started with Volume 6: The Return of the Shadow. It's not really complete tales so much as rough drafts of the LoTR, and shows the development of the novel. I find it facsinating reading: should have realized that a novel of this size didn't just spring out of Tolkien's head like Venus on a half-shell. If nothing else it makes me VERY thankful that the original name for Meriadoc was given to the lead character, ("...and 'Bingo' was his name...OHHH?), and that Meriadoc was not saddled for all posterity with the name "Marmaduke"! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

04-04-2002, 04:25 PM	#8
Ithilwen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: western Arda Posts: 41	Starbreeze, I got all 12 volumes from Amazon.com; I think you'll find that most local bookstores won't have the complete set (and many won't have any volumes in the series!), so you'll almost certainly have to order them online or place a special order at the local bookstore. The first 5 volumes are in paperback, but the remaining volumes I believe are only available in hardcover at this time. __________________ And thus it came to pass that the Silmarils found their long homes: one in the airs of heaven, and one in the fires of the heart of the world, and one in the deep waters.

04-04-2002, 04:56 PM	#9
Aralaithiel Ghost Eldaran Queen Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A remote mountain in Valinor Posts: 353	I got mine at amazon.com as well. They have a really good deal on them. I am reading The Lost Raod right now, as it has the Quenya word etymologies in it. I would definitely heed the other's advice and read The Silmarillion first, then read Unfinished Tales before tackling theses babies! Good luck! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ A lelyat, wen! (Quenya Elvish for "You go, girl!"