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Urwen · 05-10-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

Um, no. What the heck is a gorm?

Gorm from 'Gormsson', the middle name of King Harold 'Gormsson' Bluetooth of Scandinavia, from whom the modern Bluetooth technology derived its name.

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 11:55 AM

DOOF is one side of DOOFUS. We just need R.....

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Gorm from 'Gormsson', the middle name of King Harold 'Gormsson' Bluetooth of Scandinavia, from whom the modern Bluetooth technology derived its name.

OK, you're actually on the right track. But it ain't Morgoth

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

DOOF is one side of DOOFUS. We just need R.....

Come on- how many sides does a person have.....?

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 11:57 AM

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow)
2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur)
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies)
4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril)
6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril)
7. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him
8. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 11:58 AM

Two, Left and right

So Frodo (Doof+R)

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:00 PM

Harold + T as in for T.

It gives Tharold. Is there a character named Tharold?

Or maybe Hurin injured his hand somehow.....

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:02 PM

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow)
2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur)
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies)
4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. ???????: Black. Black clothes, black outlook
6. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril)
7. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril)
8. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him
9. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side
10. ???S???: The moon, duh?

Added two gimmes just to keep the class complete. Two guys I overlooked

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Harold + T as in for T.

It gives Tharold. Is there a character named Tharold?

Or maybe Hurin injured his hand somehow.....

How would King Bluetooth (or his scribes) have spelt his name?

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:09 PM

10. Isildur (Isil+Dur)
5. Morgoth (Mor+Goth)

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:10 PM

Harald Blatand, that's how.

Pervinca Took · 05-10-2019, 12:11 PM

Wasn't it Morgoth's foot that was hurt? The elements fit, though.

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:12 PM

Or Haraldr, but I don't see how the Tea part of the clue fits there.....

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Wasn't it Morgoth's foot that was hurt? The elements fit, though.

His hands were burned when he stole the Silmarili.

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:14 PM

Maybe 'Haradrim'?

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:19 PM

Frodo is not correct?

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:23 PM

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow)
2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur)
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies)
4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MORGOTH: Black. Black clothes, black outlook (burned by Silmarils)
6. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril)
7. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril)
8. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him
9. FRODO: He's a dunce on one side (dactylectomy by Gollum)
10. ISILDUR: The moon, duh? (burned by the Ring)

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:23 PM

Can't recall any other characters with injured hands.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Or Haraldr, but I don't see how the Tea part of the clue fits there.....

Oh, come on. "Tea" is the easiest bit in the whole table!

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Can't recall any other characters with injured hands.

You listed one early on....

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:26 PM

Key crew activity is steering.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:28 PM

All right: both of the characters remaining appear as characters in the main text of the Silmarillion and/or Lord of the Rings. But the specific bits required for this puzzle are found elsewhere (not HME, in case you were worried)

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:28 PM

Feanor and Tuor.

But which of these fits the clue?

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Feanor and Tuor.

But which of these fits the clue?

Nope. As far as I can tell, neither ever required a hand surgeon.

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:34 PM

They're the only ones I've listed early on. Apart from Thingol, that is.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

They're the only ones I've listed early on. Apart from Thingol, that is.

Sorry, it was Pervinca's guess. Somebody listed him, anyway

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:47 PM

The only others that were listed early are Fingolfin and Finarfin......and 'Fingolfin' contains 'log' in his name.....

Pervinca Took · 05-10-2019, 12:54 PM

Sam's hand got hurt after he tried cutting Shelob's web and the one strand he managed to sever whipped his hand.

My only guesses were Frodo, Isildur and Gollum, and neither Gollum nor Smeagol have either of the red letters still required.

Unless you use one of Sam's nicknames for him: SLINKER or STINKER.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:54 PM

4 is T + an anagram of HARALD. All you have to do is get the reference.

8 refers to a sport

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 12:57 PM

Golfing?

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:59 PM

No. It's a sport probably bigger in England than over here, but the term involved is (I believe) Yank-only. It's also particularly associated with Oxford (and Cambridge)

Pervinca Took · 05-10-2019, 12:59 PM

Is Trahald Gollum?

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Sam's hand got hurt after he tried cutting Shelob's web and the one strand he managed to sever whipped his hand.

My only guesses were Frodo, Isildur and Gollum, and neither Gollum nor Smeagol have either of the red letters still required.

Unless you use one of Sam's nicknames for him: SLINKER or STINKER.

Keep going..... As I said, the key datum doesn't appear in the main text

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Is Trahald Gollum?

Yes! Appendix F. Trahald was Smeagol in "real" Westron.

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow)
2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur)
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies)
4. TRAHALD: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him (hands hurt by Sauron's torturers)
5. MORGOTH: Black. Black clothes, black outlook (burned by Silmarils)
6. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril)
7. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril)
8. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him
9. FRODO: He's a dunce on one side (dactylectomy by Gollum)
10. ISILDUR: The moon, duh? (burned by the Ring)

Pervinca Took · 05-10-2019, 01:02 PM

It was buried somewhere in my memory. I couldn't remember where I might have read it.

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 01:02 PM

4. Stinker?

Pervinca Took · 05-10-2019, 01:04 PM

I guess the sport would be rowing. Punting is just a leisure activity, not a sport.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-10-2019, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

I guess the sport would be rowing. Punting is just a leisure activity, not a sport.

There we go. In America, but not Britain, rowing is usually referred to as "crew."

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 01:07 PM

and the key is a computer key, right?

Urwen · 05-10-2019, 01:09 PM

Wait, is 8 GWINDOR (ROWING + D)?

05-10-2019, 11:55 AM	#5562
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	DOOF is one side of DOOFUS. We just need R..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 11:57 AM	#5565
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,301	New page repost 1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow) 2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur) 3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies) 4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him 5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, and burned by a Silmaril) 6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril) 7. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him 8. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-10-2019, 11:58 AM	#5566
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Two, Left and right So Frodo (Doof+R) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:00 PM	#5567
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Harold + T as in for T. It gives Tharold. Is there a character named Tharold? Or maybe Hurin injured his hand somehow..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:02 PM	#5568
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,301	1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow) 2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur) 3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies) 4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him 5. ???????: Black. Black clothes, black outlook 6. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, and burned by a Silmaril) 7. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril) 8. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him 9. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side 10. ???S???: The moon, duh? Added two gimmes just to keep the class complete. Two guys I overlooked __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-10-2019, 12:09 PM	#5570
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	10. Isildur (Isil+Dur) 5. Morgoth (Mor+Goth) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:10 PM	#5571
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Harald Blatand, that's how. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:11 PM	#5572
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Wasn't it Morgoth's foot that was hurt? The elements fit, though. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-10-2019, 12:12 PM	#5573
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Or Haraldr, but I don't see how the Tea part of the clue fits there..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:14 PM	#5575
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Maybe 'Haradrim'? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:19 PM	#5576
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Frodo is not correct? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:23 PM	#5577
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,301	1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow) 2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur) 3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies) 4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him 5. MORGOTH: Black. Black clothes, black outlook (burned by Silmarils) 6. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, and burned by a Silmaril) 7. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril) 8. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him 9. FRODO: He's a dunce on one side (dactylectomy by Gollum) 10. ISILDUR: The moon, duh? (burned by the Ring) __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it. Last edited by William Cloud Hicklin; 05-10-2019 at 12:40 PM.

05-10-2019, 12:23 PM	#5578
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Can't recall any other characters with injured hands. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:26 PM	#5581
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Key crew activity is steering. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:28 PM	#5582
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,301	All right: both of the characters remaining appear as characters in the main text of the Silmarillion and/or Lord of the Rings. But the specific bits required for this puzzle are found elsewhere (not HME, in case you were worried) __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-10-2019, 12:28 PM	#5583
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Feanor and Tuor. But which of these fits the clue? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:34 PM	#5585
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	They're the only ones I've listed early on. Apart from Thingol, that is. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:47 PM	#5587
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	The only others that were listed early are Fingolfin and Finarfin......and 'Fingolfin' contains 'log' in his name..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:54 PM	#5588
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Sam's hand got hurt after he tried cutting Shelob's web and the one strand he managed to sever whipped his hand. My only guesses were Frodo, Isildur and Gollum, and neither Gollum nor Smeagol have either of the red letters still required. Unless you use one of Sam's nicknames for him: SLINKER or STINKER. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-10-2019, 12:54 PM	#5589
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,301	4 is T + an anagram of HARALD. All you have to do is get the reference. 8 refers to a sport __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-10-2019, 12:57 PM	#5590
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Golfing? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 12:59 PM	#5591
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,301	No. It's a sport probably bigger in England than over here, but the term involved is (I believe) Yank-only. It's also particularly associated with Oxford (and Cambridge) __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-10-2019, 12:59 PM	#5592
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Is Trahald Gollum? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-10-2019, 01:02 PM	#5595
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	It was buried somewhere in my memory. I couldn't remember where I might have read it. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-10-2019, 01:02 PM	#5596
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	4. Stinker? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 01:04 PM	#5597
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I guess the sport would be rowing. Punting is just a leisure activity, not a sport. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-10-2019, 01:07 PM	#5599
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	and the key is a computer key, right? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-10-2019, 01:09 PM	#5600
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Wait, is 8 GWINDOR (ROWING + D)? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.