Role specific maia - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

thephantomcredits · 01-17-2004, 12:02 PM

Did all Maiar have a specific role to fufill? Was Olorin always set apart as an Istari. I know other Maia under Ulmo and other Ainur have a specific responsibility, I'm just wondering if that is a chosen path or determined for them.

Earendilyon · 01-17-2004, 12:35 PM

I don't think they got specific tasks asigned to them by the Valar or by Eru. They were offspring of Eru's thoughts and they were all the offspring of some other thought, I guess. They had their own inclinations and characters. Just as humans can more love the woods than the seas, there were Maiar who loved one thing more than another thing.

Also, the Istari were not from the beginning asigned to become Istari in the Third Age of the Sun. They were Ainur and had their different things to do and places where they were most. For example, Saruman was an Ainu interested in things as forgery and smitying and such, whereas Gandalf was an Ainu who often gave solace and dreams to the Valinorean Elves.

Finwe · 01-17-2004, 03:55 PM

They just had their own interests and aptitudes, and "attached" themselves to the Vala whose area of expertise, as you could call it, most closely corresponded with their own. Thus, Curumo and Sauron attached themselves to Aulë, Olorin attached himself to Manwë and Varda, but was also close with Nienna, and Aiwendil was "attached" to Yavanna. It just depended on the individual interests of the Maia.

01-17-2004, 12:02 PM	#1
thephantomcredits Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: USA Posts: 33	Role specific maia Did all Maiar have a specific role to fufill? Was Olorin always set apart as an Istari. I know other Maia under Ulmo and other Ainur have a specific responsibility, I'm just wondering if that is a chosen path or determined for them. __________________ unity in what is essential, liberty in the nonessential

01-17-2004, 12:35 PM	#2
Earendilyon Wight Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 166	I don't think they got specific tasks asigned to them by the Valar or by Eru. They were offspring of Eru's thoughts and they were all the offspring of some other thought, I guess. They had their own inclinations and characters. Just as humans can more love the woods than the seas, there were Maiar who loved one thing more than another thing. Also, the Istari were not from the beginning asigned to become Istari in the Third Age of the Sun. They were Ainur and had their different things to do and places where they were most. For example, Saruman was an Ainu interested in things as forgery and smitying and such, whereas Gandalf was an Ainu who often gave solace and dreams to the Valinorean Elves. __________________ "For I am a Bear of Very Little Brain, and long words Bother me." Dominus Anulorum TolkienGateway - large Tolkien encyclopedia.

01-17-2004, 03:55 PM	#3
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	They just had their own interests and aptitudes, and "attached" themselves to the Vala whose area of expertise, as you could call it, most closely corresponded with their own. Thus, Curumo and Sauron attached themselves to Aulë, Olorin attached himself to Manwë and Varda, but was also close with Nienna, and Aiwendil was "attached" to Yavanna. It just depended on the individual interests of the Maia. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.