A Drinking Misconception - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eruwen · 03-03-2003, 07:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain my fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tall tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>This song was heard by many viewers as Merry and Pippin led other Hobbits in the singing of this song at the Green Dragon Inn in the Extended Version of FOTR.Or did they?It seems to me that the last part of that song was changed.For one thing, does anyone know how it goes now? I cannot find it online anywhere. No one has the extended version movie script. For my second question...point...whatever, is there another version to this song that Tolkien came up with, or is it just something PJ and Fran decided to throw in? Opinions and possible answers please!

elven maiden Earwen · 03-03-2003, 07:58 PM

I think it goes like this: Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain my fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, Sweet to the sound of the poring rain and stream that runs from hill to plain better than rain of ripiling brook is a mug of beer inside this tooki have no clue about your second ? though.

aragornreborn · 03-03-2003, 08:59 PM

I was listening to the actors' commentary (I think) for the spec. ed. and I remember Billy Boyd saying how, yes, they did change the lyrics. I don't remember whose idea it was, it might even been his and Dom's. As for the new words, sorry, I've already forgotten who posted the movie version of the lyrics, but I'm pretty sure they were right.

HCIsland · 03-04-2003, 08:58 AM

Thanks, Earwen. I never was able to quite hear all the words on the DVD. I doubt any changes were used to tone down the alcohol consumption. It likely was more to do with giving Boyd that final line.H.C.

balrogman · 03-04-2003, 07:23 PM

I think that the last part other than the "mug of beer inside this Took" is a slightly modified version of the bath song in FotR(book)

Rose Cotton · 03-04-2003, 07:41 PM

So far, you've all been close to the words. If you go to the options part of your menu screan you can make it so there are subtites.I did this and this is how the words go in the movie.elven maiden Earwen was very close.Ho Ho Ho to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe The rain may fall the wind may blow But there'll still be many miles to go. Sweet is the sound of the pouring rain, And the stream that falls from hill to plain. Better then rain or rippling brook, Is a mug of bear inside this Took.I never knew that was taken from a Tolkien song though.

GaladrieloftheOlden · 03-04-2003, 07:56 PM

Go here for the extended version script: <A HREF="http://www.stupidring.com/fotrscript/index.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.stupidring.com/fotrscript/index.htm</A> , if you would like to check more pieces. When you get there, click on the thing at the bottom left that says special extended version script.[ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: GaladrieloftheOlden ]

HCIsland · 03-04-2003, 10:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> If you go to the options part of your menu screan you can make it so there are subtites. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> H.C. hits himself in the head at this simple solution.H.C.

Diamond18 · 03-04-2003, 10:12 PM

And all this time I've been thinking the last line went "..and save this Took!" Duuuuuuh. And I even have the soundbit on my computer. *Joins HC in the head banging routine (quite refreshing, BTW).

eleanor_niphredil · 03-05-2003, 12:14 PM

I've been wondering at the words myself for quite a while. Now i can doubily annoy my friend, as i now know the words too!

Sapphire_Flame · 03-06-2003, 11:54 AM

Ah, annoying ilLotRliterate friends...one of the best pastimes....The song is a combination of two songs in the book, the one stated at the beginning, and the Bath Song. With an original last line, of course!

03-03-2003, 07:51 PM	#1
Eruwen Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 892	A Drinking Misconception <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go <BR>To heal my heart and drown my woe. <BR>Rain my fall and wind may blow, <BR>And many miles be still to go, <BR>But under a tall tree I will lie, <BR>And let the clouds go sailing by.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>This song was heard by many viewers as Merry and Pippin led other Hobbits in the singing of this song at the Green Dragon Inn in the Extended Version of FOTR.<P>Or did they?<P>It seems to me that the last part of that song was changed.<P>For one thing, does anyone know how it goes now? I cannot find it online anywhere. No one has the extended version movie script. <P>For my second question...point...whatever, is there another version to this song that Tolkien came up with, or is it just something PJ and Fran decided to throw in? Opinions and possible answers please!

03-03-2003, 07:58 PM	#2
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	I think it goes like this:<BR>Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go <BR>To heal my heart and drown my woe. <BR>Rain my fall and wind may blow, <BR>And many miles be still to go, <BR>Sweet to the sound of the poring rain<BR>and stream that runs from hill to plain<BR>better than rain of ripiling brook<BR>is a mug of beer inside this took<P>i have no clue about your second ? though. __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

03-03-2003, 08:59 PM	#3
aragornreborn Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 182	I was listening to the actors' commentary (I think) for the spec. ed. and I remember Billy Boyd saying how, yes, they did change the lyrics. I don't remember whose idea it was, it might even been his and Dom's. As for the new words, sorry, I've already forgotten who posted the movie version of the lyrics, but I'm pretty sure they were right. __________________ At the name of Jesus every knee should bow and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. - Phil. 2:10-11

03-04-2003, 08:58 AM	#4
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	Thanks, Earwen. I never was able to quite hear all the words on the DVD. I doubt any changes were used to tone down the alcohol consumption. It likely was more to do with giving Boyd that final line.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

03-04-2003, 07:23 PM	#5
balrogman Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: that place with the stuff Posts: 102	I think that the last part other than the "mug of beer inside this Took" is a slightly modified version of the bath song in FotR(book) __________________ should i stay or should i go?

03-04-2003, 07:41 PM	#6
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	So far, you've all been close to the words. If you go to the options part of your menu screan you can make it so there are subtites.I did this and this is how the words go in the movie.elven maiden Earwen was very close.<P>Ho Ho Ho to the bottle I go<BR>To heal my heart and drown my woe<BR>The rain may fall the wind may blow<BR>But there'll still be many miles to go.<BR>Sweet is the sound of the pouring rain,<BR>And the stream that falls from hill to plain.<BR>Better then rain or rippling brook,<BR>Is a mug of bear inside this Took.<P>I never knew that was taken from a Tolkien song though. __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

03-04-2003, 07:56 PM	#7
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	Go here for the extended version script: <A HREF="http://www.stupidring.com/fotrscript/index.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.stupidring.com/fotrscript/index.htm</A> , if you would like to check more pieces.<BR>When you get there, click on the thing at the bottom left that says special extended version script.<p>[ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: GaladrieloftheOlden ] __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

03-04-2003, 10:02 PM	#8
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> If you go to the options part of your menu screan you can make it so there are subtites. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>H.C. hits himself in the head at this simple solution.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

03-04-2003, 10:12 PM	#9
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	And all this time I've been thinking the last line went "..and save this Took!" Duuuuuuh. And I even have the soundbit on my computer. *Joins HC in the head banging routine (quite refreshing, BTW). __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

03-05-2003, 12:14 PM	#10
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	I've been wondering at the words myself for quite a while. Now i can doubily annoy my friend, as i now know the words too! __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

03-06-2003, 11:54 AM	#11
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	Ah, annoying ilLotRliterate friends...one of the best pastimes....<P>The song is a combination of two songs in the book, the one stated at the beginning, and the Bath Song. With an original last line, of course! __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost