And they tell us to throw it all away! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Elianna · 07-10-2005, 08:27 PM

So about the Bakshi cartoon...

Usually this movie sticks closer to the book than PJ does, but in its Mirror of Galadriel scene, they severely messed it up. Galadriel's tempation by the Ring is terrific (in every sense of the word) in the book, but in the Bakshi version, they throw this all away and instead have Galadriel lightly laugh off Frodo's offer. "Hahaha, no Frodo, you silly widdle Hobbit, I pass your test," she says as she twirls around and plays with her dress.

Why? Does this have any connection to Boyens, Walsh and Jackson deciding not to have Faramir say "I would not pick it up if it lay by the highway"?

Kath · 07-11-2005, 03:49 AM

Maybe they felt that only Frodo should feel the incredible pull of the Ring because we were going to focus on him throughout the film. The scene with Galadriel seemed to be more about telling us what the Ring could do in the hands of a more powerful person rather than the power of the Ring alone as in the book.

Also, we had already seen Gandalf refuse to take the Ring with reasons why so they may have thought that there was no need to explain it again.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-11-2005, 07:32 AM

Maybe they found the idea of a threatening female inconceivable.

Neurion · 07-11-2005, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Maybe they found the idea of a threatening female inconceivable.

Oh ha ha.

Elianna · 07-11-2005, 05:22 PM

More likely they couldn't think of how to animate it and didn't have the money to use their oh so wonderful special FX on her.

The Only Real Estel · 07-12-2005, 06:10 PM

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Maybe they found the idea of a threatening female inconceivable.

I'm sure your PM box is showing you differently.

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Why? Does this have any connection to Boyens, Walsh and Jackson deciding not to have Faramir say "I would not pick it up if it lay by the highway"?

I don't see a connection at all. I have no idea why Bakshi would think it significant to show that someone could resist the Ring; all that does is lend more credence to the 'Could Sam have thrown it in the Mountain?' argument. And PJ decided to show that not everyone could resist the Ring - though why he thought it was really extremely important is something I'll never fully understand.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-13-2005, 06:06 AM

I hope you're not implying, Estel, that I think the idea is inconceivable. I'm just trying to get inside a mindset.

Or maybe you were referring to the furious Bakshi fans.

07-10-2005, 08:27 PM	#1
Elianna Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ad finem itineris Posts: 384	And they tell us to throw it all away! So about the Bakshi cartoon... Usually this movie sticks closer to the book than PJ does, but in its Mirror of Galadriel scene, they severely messed it up. Galadriel's tempation by the Ring is terrific (in every sense of the word) in the book, but in the Bakshi version, they throw this all away and instead have Galadriel lightly laugh off Frodo's offer. "Hahaha, no Frodo, you silly widdle Hobbit, I pass your test," she says as she twirls around and plays with her dress. Why? Does this have any connection to Boyens, Walsh and Jackson deciding not to have Faramir say "I would not pick it up if it lay by the highway"? __________________ Enyale cuilenya, ú-enyale mandenya.

07-11-2005, 03:49 AM	#2
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Maybe they felt that only Frodo should feel the incredible pull of the Ring because we were going to focus on him throughout the film. The scene with Galadriel seemed to be more about telling us what the Ring could do in the hands of a more powerful person rather than the power of the Ring alone as in the book. Also, we had already seen Gandalf refuse to take the Ring with reasons why so they may have thought that there was no need to explain it again. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

07-11-2005, 07:32 AM	#3
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Maybe they found the idea of a threatening female inconceivable. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-11-2005, 05:22 PM	#5
Elianna Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ad finem itineris Posts: 384	More likely they couldn't think of how to animate it and didn't have the money to use their oh so wonderful special FX on her. __________________ Enyale cuilenya, ú-enyale mandenya.

07-13-2005, 06:06 AM	#7
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I hope you're not implying, Estel, that I think the idea is inconceivable. I'm just trying to get inside a mindset. Or maybe you were referring to the furious Bakshi fans. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond