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Old 10-11-2008, 06:11 PM   #41
Morthoron
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OK, everyone's beginning to act screwy! .
Well, considering this subject has the philosophical propensities of a box of hair, I rather enjoy the screwiness to the actual discussion.

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True it would eventually have led to war, but both parties were in the wrong. You forget that it was Thingol who lusted to the necklace of the Naugrim as well as the Silmaril.
He did not lust after the Nauglimir, he owned it. It was the Dwarves who made the fallacious claim that since it was given to Finrod by the Dwarves and then brought to Thingol by Hurin from the wreck of Nargothrond, that they somehow had a right to it after having given away of their own free will (a classic instance of 'Indian-givers', if you'll pardon the racial pejorative). The Dwarves had no claim to it, particularly since the Silmaril was now part of it (you'll notice they never mentioned the Silmaril, but it was obviously the reason they coveted it).

Yes, the Dwarves murdered Thingol because they were intent on stealing the Silmaril. From a strictly legal sense, they would have been convicted of grand theft and murder. The case of O.J. Simpson comes to mind. If you recall, O.J. was tried and convicted of trying to steal his own memorabilia which was no longer his property.
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