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Is there any specific way that the next [part of the] story should start, or anybody specific that should start it?
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Good question. I think I'll reserve a few slots for the men's parade south, and then open it up-- wide!
As in, it's open now. I've posted for Erebemin & the menfolk, and an other just-in-case (I'll probably put a Mellonin post there of some sort if it doesn't get used for something else.) Did I remember all the menfolk? Uneasy feeling that I forgot somebody... please pipe up if so!!! New characters, dive in as inspired. ![]() Edit-- and ladies, dream away! For my own sanity: Celuien: Sæthryd Firefoot: Rugh Fea: Eledhwen (Indil ) Formendacil: Bergil; Elessar lmp: Raefindan, Ædegard, Tharonwe, Jorje Alak: Erebemlin, Taitheneb Nuru: Liornung, Leafa Immy: Aeron, Gwyllion's shade Aylwen: Bella Orual: Ravion mark12_30: Mellondu/Amroth, Mellonin, Nethwador Characters played at will: Nimrodel, Mithrellas, Marigold Last edited by mark12_30; 09-20-2006 at 07:05 PM. |
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So for those of us who wrote first posts, should we put those up now?
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Yes!
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Party, party!
I was just thinking...my character is hiding up in the mountains, so I was going to wait to transfer my first post to the game thread until after the ladies have started out in her direction. Does that sound okay with everyone?
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Haha, I just thought this was cute...
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I'm trying to think of who it would be best to have find Eledhwen. Any suggestions?
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How about Bergil?
lmp might be able to come up with some Raefindan-oriented, Roy-Edwards-rooted, Imrazor-infused doom-dream-destiny thing...
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I think (and if I recall, Alak and I discussed this briefly a while back), that he is best introduced at some point on the road. We mentioned the possibility of him being sent by Elessar either in response the escape of Tharonwë or the disappearance of the young ladies (undoubtedly made known by Mellonin's parents). I think that either/both of these makes for excellent grounds for Bergil's entrance into the story, but I'm hesitant on the grounds of "well, do we want the menfolk to know that? Because surely they'd try and do something" in the case of the ladies, and "well, then they'd be on their guard" in the case of Tharonwë. Anyway... Thoughts? Suggestions?
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I was just thinking, if Bergil was rangering in South Ithilien (or South Gondor) and happened across a little girl out in the wild, what would he do?
...don't mind me. I haven't reread Eledhwen's bio recently enough to remember where she lives. Guess I should go do my homework. Edit: Right, everyone knows she lives in Imloth Melui. Pardon me while i scramble for my atlas. Uhhh... Fea? Can't find it. ![]()
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Since Eledhwen's family would be somewhere between Minas Tirith and Imloth Melui (Lossarnach area), on her way home, I'd place her, when introduced, less than a day's ride south and maybe a bit west of Minas Tirith. Maybe halfway between the upper parts of the Erui and Anduin. If the men are following the road south, they might find her, or if Bergil, southern Ranger that he is, found her first, the men and Bergil might meet on the road, him taking the little girl to Minas Tirith/Anor, them riding yonder-in-that-direction-in-which-they're-going... She could fall asleep and dream before they split back up, or one of the Elves could see a mark of fate (you know, fun stuff like that) on her? If this wandering group want to keep her around, would Bergil just leave her? *thinking aloud* I'll let other people think. I need to go write about Dostoyevsky now. ![]()
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Either way.
I'm charmed by the Bergil-Eledhwen possibility and I like Fea's ideas regarding it. But they're your characters! Meanwhile-- Marigold sends Jorje to find-- Raefindan? ![]() Erebemlin? ![]() Both? Is he a River-Daughter's Doggie now, with some special something? That Jorje, he just has an air about him. AWOOOOOOO sniff sniff AWOOOOOOOO sniff, galooop galooop galooop AWOOOOOOOO Look at them floppy ears go! Edit one: .....Uh-- Bergil's gonna need a horse. Drat! Why'd we ask Elessar for just two!!! Edit two: also charmed by the idea of Marigold sending Jorjeafter Erebemlin, at least partly. Can you imagine-- Erebemlin the ancient, stern and sleekly aloof, gradually softened and mellowed by a short-lived drooly wet-nosed dawg?
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K... Bergil v. The Guys. Match of the year. Who wants to find lil Indil??
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Forgive me if I'm being dense, but since they are not using Elessar's horses then why couldn't Bergil use one of them...?
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Returns and merry beginnings
Hallelujah, I'm back online with my very own computer! God is good.
Let me get all the way caught up and get my juices flowing and I'll get to work on the elves. ~one happy Alak
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No worries, girl!
I've been enjoying rereading the last couple pages of the older thread. Aeron's been doing some growing, and some thinking. Good stuff.
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Saethryd will be most happy to (un)welcome any visitors. Including Jorje.
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Celuien-- looking forward to Saethryd's welcome. Eeeeeyipe!
Nuru is lurking again! Hiya, girl! How goes it??
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Helen, you caught me!
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Is it okay if my post brings it to the next morning? Should I wait a bit or change mine?
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Anyone else wants archery lessons let me know.
Alak, I've got plans for this archery thing... drop me a line for details if you'd like/ when you're ready. It's hard for me to make a shift from Mellondu, Taitheneb and Erebemlin, to Mellondu only. Can you tell? ![]() I forget whether Nethwador can shoot or not... must go look it up. Rohirrim-- well, actually, I guess Ædegard can't shoot! Poor Ædegard-- but does Liornung want lessons too? Does Aeron? Whoa, Aeron getting skilled with a bow-- together with his thieving skills, we'd have something dangerous! ![]()
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Whups Aylwen, we cross-posted. I have no objections to going to next morning-- I can take the menfolk to "tomorrow" if need be. If anyone else needs mroe time, Aylwen, we can just leapfrog as usual. Go ahead and post.
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For my own future sanity: Nethwador's first wild-boy appearance by the stream, soon to be tamed by Amroth & co
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How about..... Bergil is by the side of the road, pondering what to do with this mysterious and lost little girl-- and the menfolk ride up, and Raefindan is thereby haunted. Or fated or doomed or, well, you know. And the elves can chime in. How about-- at that point-- Bergil, sensing some sort of doom on his own part, gallops off to find his commander, and gets permission to join the quest, and comes galloping back? Trying to think like a soldier here-- wouldn't want him accused of desertion, you know.
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Golly. I'm sure doing a lot of talking. Makes me look like a chatterbox.
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The way I've taken to picturing the Rangers (particularly those of Arnor, but I think applicable to those of Gondor as well) is that they are essentially independent agents, until and unless they should be called up. Alternatively, if one sees the Rangers as being a bit more of a "company", then the issue is easily sidestepped by Bergil being on leave at the time of finding Eledhwen (possibly making his way to family in Lossarnach at the time? We know Bergil's grandfather dwelt there), and upon being embroiled in these great matters, he sends off a letter to his superiors informing them of what he's up to (so as not to expect him back soon). I'm sure a Ranger would have enough leeway that his normal patrol could be swiftly reassigned when he didn't show up after leave, and as the son of Beregond, Captain of the White Guard, and personal friend of Prince Faramir, I think Bergil would be able to pull a few strings, even if the hierarchy were inclined to be disapproving.
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Only issue, and this might be sidestepped by the issue of the Elves' presence: she's a little girl, by herself, in the company of a bunch of guys. If they wouldn't let grown women travel with them, surely they'd have trouble with the concept of a lone little girl? *pondering* What if... How were the guys going to find out about the women leaving again? Gwyllion? Might Gwyll speak through Indil, and then... something? Once the women are involved again, it shouldn't be much of a problem, but if everyone is that paranoid about the propriety of unchaperoned and travelling women... ![]()
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(So long as the guys don't mind babysitting. ![]() ![]() EDIT: The main objection I can think of is that a small child might not do well on the road and that if the group isn't far from Minas Tirith, that they might prefer to deliver her to someone in the city for, well, babysitting.
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Here's the thing: (to be blunt)-- us 21'st century folk are thinking 'child abuse', because it's in the public eye more than it ever was. Whereas this wouldn't even cross the mind of Tolkien's generation. Think WW2 vets, or closer still, WW1 vets. Big brothers, or even dads.
"Where are you from, honey?" "Dat way." Pointing south. "Well, let's get you home. Do you have cousins?" "Yup. Inna forest." "Let's go find them, shall we?" The only problem with this (now that I squint at the map) is that Lossarnach is tucked right under Mindolluin. Bummer. So they'd find her cousins in a day or two, drop her off, and that's the end of it. (Can't she be from Pelargir, or Lebennin, instead?) Quote:
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I think it's better that Bergil chooses to escort her back home-- and falls in with a large group of elves & men, because there's safety (especially for a little girl) in numbers. So I'm back to pleading for Pelargir or Lebannin or someplace near Edhellond/ Dol Amroth. How about a 'suburb' of Dol Amroth? Formendacil-- OK, sounds well thought-out. Sending a ltter back home (or something) makes good sense. And have I told you yet-- your title is hilarious?
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We WANT the guys to know that the women have left? That solves the problem of Bergil's entry into the story and permission to be there: Girls leave Minas Tirith. Mellonin's parents report this to the Steward. Rangers are sent out from city. Bergil goes south (and, being alone, will eventually overtake Erebemlin et al). Bergil meets Eledhwen on the road (whither she's wandered a day or two AFTER Erebemlin et al have gone by). Being a mere five year old, it's impossible to get straight directions out of her. Deciding the safest thing to do is to take her with him, and leave her in the care of someone further along the way, Bergil takes the girl with him. Bergil and Eledhwen catch up to the Company. Raefindan has some sort of weird recognition/deja vu thing regarding Eledhwen. It is decided to take her with them. The Company learns of Bergil's mission- and of the departure of the womenfolk. That resolves it all rather neatly... I was under the impression that we DIDN'T want the menfolk to find out the womenfolk had left- but if we DO want them to find out, I'm very much in favour.
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Okay, Formendacil of the seriously hilarious title...
![]() Yes, I like it. But there's something unsettling about letting the men know for certain-- via messenger-- rather than shadowy suspicions that grow over time-- via dreams and impressions. A growing uneasiness would be less likely to make 2/3 the company turn around and go back. (Ædegard, Liornung, Ravion, Raefindan, Nethwador, Mellondu would all be inclined. Only Taitheneb and Erebemlin would wholeheartedly continue south.) With a clear message that the women are missing, and the group only out a day or four from the city, all but the elves would go north again-- or be very seriously torn about it. So either we have a bickering and divided company of men, or, we need to delay the news til they can hope to find the women on the south side of the mountains. So I'm thinking the women then have to leave late enough, and Bergil would have to leave late enough, so that it's too late for the men to turn around and go back. So that will stretch the ladies' plot out a bit more, methinks.
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