6 Degrees of Separation - Page 12 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-01-2003, 09:44 PM

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Can't get anything past you...

Lindolirian · 05-02-2003, 03:30 PM

Forweg-> Fundin

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-02-2003, 03:34 PM

Forweg-> Turin-> Tuor-> Elrond-> Balin-> Fundin

Is that too many steps?

Lindolirian · 05-02-2003, 03:35 PM

Nope, five steps; six people, just below the max. Good job!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-03-2003, 01:39 AM

Thanks, that was a nasssty poser. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Ar-Pharazon -> Mahtan

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-03-2003, 10:28 AM

Are we allowed to use Sauron and Morgoth?

If so:

Ar-Pharazon -> Sauron -> Morgoth -> Feanor -> Mahtan

I am assuming that Morgoth and Feanor were acquanited after Morgoth (Melkor) had been pardoned by Manwe. That is the impression that I have. But, if not:

Ar-Pharazon -> Sauron -> Morgoth -> Finwe -> Feanor -> Mahtan

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-03-2003, 10:33 AM

Either of those are quite acceptable, I think...

(My solution was Ar-Pharazon-> Sauron-> Celebrimbor-> Curufin-> Nerdanel-> Mahtan, so I suppose Sauron & Morgoth are legitimate [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img])

Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-06-2003, 07:40 AM

OK, here's another:

Eowyn -> Ecthelion I

Not using Gandalf.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-06-2003, 03:15 PM

Eowyn->Aragorn->Saruman->Beren->Egalmoth->EcthelionI

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-06-2003, 05:29 PM

Was there ever any interaction between Aragorn and Saruman in LotR? I am not sure that Aragorn spoke when he accompanied Gandalf and Theoden to parley with Saruman at Orthanc.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-06-2003, 05:48 PM

My books are packed away as I'm moving out of the dorms tomorrow, but if it doesn't work the way I have it, you can always replace Aragorn with Grima and it all works... Eowyn->Grima->Saruman->Beren->Egalmoth->Ecthelion I

Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-06-2003, 06:19 PM

That's the one I had in mind, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Good luck with the move!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-06-2003, 08:19 PM

Silmarien-> Gil-Galad

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-07-2003, 06:09 PM

Silmarien-> Tar-Meneldur-> Tar-Aldarion-> Gil-Galad

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-10-2003, 10:28 AM

Splendid

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-12-2003, 06:42 PM

Thank you, Sophia.

Tar-Aldarion -> Fengel

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-12-2003, 08:37 PM

I'll take a go at it...

Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Saruman-> Thengel-> Fengel...???

I don't really know if there was interaction between Saruman and Thengel, but I would think there was, since it was during Thengel's reign that Saruman pronounced himself Lord of Isengard and Theoden refers to Saruman's friendship with Rohan in LotR.

Sophia [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] (who is glad to be back)

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-12-2003, 09:04 PM

Welcome back, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Hmm, you may be right about the connection between Saruman and Thengel, but there is a much less speculative connection ...

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-15-2003, 07:16 PM

Alright then, I have to take it in an extra step though (I think that's allowable? Six steps, seven people??).

Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Merry-> Theoden-> Fengel

Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-15-2003, 07:45 PM

Theoden never knew his grandfather. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

You had it almost right before - just replace Saruman with someone else ...

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-15-2003, 07:50 PM

Drat you Saucepansss [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] why must it be so blasted complicated! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] you mean Grandfather -> Grandson isn't close enough to be covered by the relatives clause? *sighs* alright then.

Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Gandalf-> Fengel
?

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-15-2003, 07:55 PM

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When tracing from one name to another there must have been interaction or implied interaction in the novels between the two charcters. Also, a link can me made between names if the two characters are immediately related to each other (child, parent, spouse).

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Try not to use Gandalf, Saruman,or Sauron if it can be helped. These people have a link to just about everybody.

Oops! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] I used Sauron before. But none of these three are in this one. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-19-2003, 07:13 PM

Aldarion -> Gil-Galad -> Elrond -> ? -> Thengel -> Fengel

Who is the missing link?

Eruanna · 05-20-2003, 04:37 PM

Is the missing link Aragorn? He knew Elrond of course, but he had served Thengel in Rohan before he came to Gondor (as Thorongil)

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-20-2003, 05:38 PM

Indeed he did, Eruanna. Aragorn is the missing link (Homus Dunedainus [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ), so you are correct. Well done. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Eruanna · 05-25-2003, 11:42 AM

This one is probably too easy...

Narvi to Bungo Baggins, in 6 or less steps.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-25-2003, 12:40 PM

Narvi-> Celebrimbor-> Curufin-> Maglor-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Bungo.

There are seven people, but only six steps there.

Sophia

Eruanna · 05-25-2003, 12:45 PM

Can you substitute Curufin and Maglor with one person? (Trying to get my own back for Odd item out, here [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] )

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-25-2003, 02:34 PM

Narvi->Celebrimbor->Galadriel? (some of the stories say she dwelt for a time in Eregion)-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Bungo.

Eruanna · 05-25-2003, 03:54 PM

That is almost the same as I was thinking. I had Narvi > Celebrimbor > Galadriel > Frodo > Bilbo > Bungo.
From UT, History of Galadriel and Celeborn:

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Galadriel and Celeborn had in their company a Noldorin craftsman named Celebrimbor.

Your go.
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[ May 25, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-25-2003, 04:16 PM

Alright, next one is:

Elrohir -> Brand NOT using any of Thorin's company, including Bilbo or Gandalf.

Sophia

Eruanna · 05-25-2003, 04:47 PM

I think this works:

Brand > Bain > Bard the Bowman > Thranduil > Legolas > Elrond > Elrohir

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-25-2003, 05:12 PM

Exactly how I had it, although you can go straight from Legolas to Elrohir, as they were both members of the Grey Company... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Your go!

Eruanna · 05-26-2003, 08:53 AM

I'd forgotten the Grey Company connection!

Here's another: Galathil to Ghân-buri-Ghân. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 05-28-2003, 09:22 AM

Galathil-> Celeborn-> Merry-> Eomer*-> Ghân-buri-Ghân
*Just in case... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Eruanna · 05-28-2003, 02:06 PM

Terrific [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 05-28-2003, 03:23 PM

Balan-> Lothíriel

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-28-2003, 07:31 PM

Balan (Beor)-> Finrod-> Galadriel-> Eomer-> Lothiriel

Lindolirian · 05-28-2003, 08:22 PM

Aye, that be it! Proceed!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-30-2003, 05:41 PM

Faelivrin-> Ivorwen

05-01-2003, 09:44 PM	#441
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Can't get anything past you... __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-02-2003, 03:30 PM	#442
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,125	Forweg-> Fundin __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-02-2003, 03:34 PM	#443
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Forweg-> Turin-> Tuor-> Elrond-> Balin-> Fundin Is that too many steps? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-02-2003, 03:35 PM	#444
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,125	Nope, five steps; six people, just below the max. Good job! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-03-2003, 01:39 AM	#445
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Thanks, that was a nasssty poser. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Ar-Pharazon -> Mahtan __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-03-2003, 10:28 AM	#446
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	Are we allowed to use Sauron and Morgoth? If so: Ar-Pharazon -> Sauron -> Morgoth -> Feanor -> Mahtan I am assuming that Morgoth and Feanor were acquanited after Morgoth (Melkor) had been pardoned by Manwe. That is the impression that I have. But, if not: Ar-Pharazon -> Sauron -> Morgoth -> Finwe -> Feanor -> Mahtan __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-03-2003, 10:33 AM	#447
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Either of those are quite acceptable, I think... (My solution was Ar-Pharazon-> Sauron-> Celebrimbor-> Curufin-> Nerdanel-> Mahtan, so I suppose Sauron & Morgoth are legitimate [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]) Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-06-2003, 07:40 AM	#448
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	OK, here's another: Eowyn -> Ecthelion I Not using Gandalf. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-06-2003, 03:15 PM	#449
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Eowyn->Aragorn->Saruman->Beren->Egalmoth->EcthelionI __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-06-2003, 05:29 PM	#450
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	Was there ever any interaction between Aragorn and Saruman in LotR? I am not sure that Aragorn spoke when he accompanied Gandalf and Theoden to parley with Saruman at Orthanc. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-06-2003, 05:48 PM	#451
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	My books are packed away as I'm moving out of the dorms tomorrow, but if it doesn't work the way I have it, you can always replace Aragorn with Grima and it all works... Eowyn->Grima->Saruman->Beren->Egalmoth->Ecthelion I Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-06-2003, 06:19 PM	#452
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	That's the one I had in mind, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Good luck with the move! __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-06-2003, 08:19 PM	#453
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Silmarien-> Gil-Galad __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-07-2003, 06:09 PM	#454
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	Silmarien-> Tar-Meneldur-> Tar-Aldarion-> Gil-Galad __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-10-2003, 10:28 AM	#455
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Splendid __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-12-2003, 06:42 PM	#456
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	Thank you, Sophia. Tar-Aldarion -> Fengel __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-12-2003, 08:37 PM	#457
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	I'll take a go at it... Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Saruman-> Thengel-> Fengel...??? I don't really know if there was interaction between Saruman and Thengel, but I would think there was, since it was during Thengel's reign that Saruman pronounced himself Lord of Isengard and Theoden refers to Saruman's friendship with Rohan in LotR. Sophia [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] (who is glad to be back) __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-12-2003, 09:04 PM	#458
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	Welcome back, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Hmm, you may be right about the connection between Saruman and Thengel, but there is a much less speculative connection ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-15-2003, 07:16 PM	#459
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Alright then, I have to take it in an extra step though (I think that's allowable? Six steps, seven people??). Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Merry-> Theoden-> Fengel Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-15-2003, 07:45 PM	#460
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	Theoden never knew his grandfather. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] You had it almost right before - just replace Saruman with someone else ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-15-2003, 07:50 PM	#461
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Drat you Saucepansss [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] why must it be so blasted complicated! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] you mean Grandfather -> Grandson isn't close enough to be covered by the relatives clause? sighs alright then. Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Gandalf-> Fengel ? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-19-2003, 07:13 PM	#463
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	Aldarion -> Gil-Galad -> Elrond -> ? -> Thengel -> Fengel Who is the missing link? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-20-2003, 04:37 PM	#464
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,120	Is the missing link Aragorn? He knew Elrond of course, but he had served Thengel in Rohan before he came to Gondor (as Thorongil) __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-20-2003, 05:38 PM	#465
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	Indeed he did, Eruanna. Aragorn is the missing link (Homus Dunedainus [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ), so you are correct. Well done. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-25-2003, 11:42 AM	#466
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,120	This one is probably too easy... Narvi to Bungo Baggins, in 6 or less steps. __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-25-2003, 12:40 PM	#467
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Narvi-> Celebrimbor-> Curufin-> Maglor-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Bungo. There are seven people, but only six steps there. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-25-2003, 12:45 PM	#468
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,120	Can you substitute Curufin and Maglor with one person? (Trying to get my own back for Odd item out, here [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] ) __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-25-2003, 02:34 PM	#469
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Narvi->Celebrimbor->Galadriel? (some of the stories say she dwelt for a time in Eregion)-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Bungo. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-25-2003, 04:16 PM	#471
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Alright, next one is: Elrohir -> Brand NOT using any of Thorin's company, including Bilbo or Gandalf. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-25-2003, 04:47 PM	#472
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,120	I think this works: Brand > Bain > Bard the Bowman > Thranduil > Legolas > Elrond > Elrohir __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-25-2003, 05:12 PM	#473
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Exactly how I had it, although you can go straight from Legolas to Elrohir, as they were both members of the Grey Company... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Your go! __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-26-2003, 08:53 AM	#474
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,120	I'd forgotten the Grey Company connection! Here's another: Galathil to Ghân-buri-Ghân. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-28-2003, 09:22 AM	#475
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,125	Galathil-> Celeborn-> Merry-> Eomer-> Ghân-buri-Ghân Just in case... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-28-2003, 02:06 PM	#476
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,120	Terrific [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-28-2003, 03:23 PM	#477
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,125	Balan-> Lothíriel __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."