Faramir - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

MatthewM · 07-15-2006, 04:56 PM

We all know that Faramir in the movies was not portrayed as Tolkien had created him. But does anybody else realize that this is only within The Two Towers? In The Return of the King, I definitely see the book Faramir come to life on the screen.

In The Two Towers, PJ creates a confused man with reluctance and a lust for power. We all know this is opposite of how Faramir appeared when we first meet him in Ithilien in the books. But after Jackson FINALLY makes Faramir see Frodo's cause (at Osgoliath, where Frodo and Sam never were might I add, completely taken away from their path...but that's another ramble) we see the book Faramir at last.

I just wanted to point this out, because everybody hates how Faramir was portrayed in the films, and no doubt he was misportrayed in TTT...but nobody seems to realize how the true Faramir is seen within ROTK.

Beanamir of Gondor · 07-19-2006, 01:43 PM

I totally agree with you... Movie!Faramir was confused, torn, and somewhat rude in TTT, but in RotK he was decisive, sacrificing, and altogether lovable--much like Book!Faramir all throughout LotR.

The article What Happened to Gallant Captain Faramir? is absolutely fabulous. The link to it was posted awhile back by Elladan and Elrohir, in this other thread. I think you'll agree with what the author had to say.

MatthewM · 07-19-2006, 04:39 PM

Thanks for that link, I read the article and couldn't agree more.

08-16-2006, 12:40 PM

I don't hate Faramir in the movies. I think he was mostly a plot device and obstacle in the Two Towers movie. He wasn't given enough screen time to understand his motivations. He does become a more sympathic character in the Return of the King movie. In a way PJ did the same thing with Treebeard and the ents.

calandil · 08-17-2006, 03:29 AM

he is my fovorite character

shieldmaiden4xsword · 08-22-2006, 01:45 PM

hmph. Thanks a lot for that link......that's crazy.....it sounds really like.....whooooaaaa

Faramir is my 2nd fave character in the books. I've never watched the movies.

MatthewM · 08-23-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shieldmaiden4xsword

Faramir is my 2nd fave character in the books. I've never watched the movies.

You've NEVER watched the movies?! AH! I didn't know such a person existed!

Elladan and Elrohir · 08-27-2006, 10:01 PM

You could say many things about Faramir in TTT, but I wouldn't say he has a lust for power. Even when he utters those dreaded words, "The Ring will go to Gondor," he does not want the Ring for himself. This is made clear later when he tells his second-in-command, "Tell my father, 'Faramir sends a mighty gift.'" The Ring obviously wasn't going to be his own. Faramir takes Frodo to Osgiliath and intends to take him to Minas Tirith, not because he himself desires the Ring, but because he wants to please an unappreciative father.

And yeah, that article is really good.

07-15-2006, 04:56 PM	#1
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 627	Faramir We all know that Faramir in the movies was not portrayed as Tolkien had created him. But does anybody else realize that this is only within The Two Towers? In The Return of the King, I definitely see the book Faramir come to life on the screen. In The Two Towers, PJ creates a confused man with reluctance and a lust for power. We all know this is opposite of how Faramir appeared when we first meet him in Ithilien in the books. But after Jackson FINALLY makes Faramir see Frodo's cause (at Osgoliath, where Frodo and Sam never were might I add, completely taken away from their path...but that's another ramble) we see the book Faramir at last. I just wanted to point this out, because everybody hates how Faramir was portrayed in the films, and no doubt he was misportrayed in TTT...but nobody seems to realize how the true Faramir is seen within ROTK. __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

07-19-2006, 01:43 PM	#2
Beanamir of Gondor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: the Shadow Gallery Posts: 276	I totally agree with you... Movie!Faramir was confused, torn, and somewhat rude in TTT, but in RotK he was decisive, sacrificing, and altogether lovable--much like Book!Faramir all throughout LotR. The article What Happened to Gallant Captain Faramir? is absolutely fabulous. The link to it was posted awhile back by Elladan and Elrohir, in this other thread. I think you'll agree with what the author had to say. __________________ The answer to life is no longer 42. It's 4 8 15 16 23... 42. "I only lent you my body; you lent me your dream."

07-19-2006, 04:39 PM	#3
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 627	Thanks for that link, I read the article and couldn't agree more. __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

08-17-2006, 03:29 AM	#5
calandil Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	i know he is my fovorite character

08-22-2006, 01:45 PM	#6
shieldmaiden4xsword Wight Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: where people stick out their tongues at their youth pastor.... Posts: 198	hmph. Thanks a lot for that link......that's crazy.....it sounds really like.....whooooaaaa Faramir is my 2nd fave character in the books. I've never watched the movies. __________________ Sometimes the peril is not in what is around us, what enemies or trials that may come, but what is in our own hearts.

08-16-2006, 12:40 PM	#4
mlwhipple Guest Posts: n/a	I don't hate Faramir in the movies. I think he was mostly a plot device and obstacle in the Two Towers movie. He wasn't given enough screen time to understand his motivations. He does become a more sympathic character in the Return of the King movie. In a way PJ did the same thing with Treebeard and the ents.

08-27-2006, 10:01 PM	#8
Elladan and Elrohir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 332	You could say many things about Faramir in TTT, but I wouldn't say he has a lust for power. Even when he utters those dreaded words, "The Ring will go to Gondor," he does not want the Ring for himself. This is made clear later when he tells his second-in-command, "Tell my father, 'Faramir sends a mighty gift.'" The Ring obviously wasn't going to be his own. Faramir takes Frodo to Osgiliath and intends to take him to Minas Tirith, not because he himself desires the Ring, but because he wants to please an unappreciative father. And yeah, that article is really good. __________________ "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door." THE HOBBIT - IT'S COMING