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Old 12-28-2002, 11:08 AM   #1
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Silmaril Did u notice that Legolas's eye colour changes in the movie!

Did u notice that in the movie, and the promo pics, that Legolas aka Orlando Bloom's eye colour changes from brown 2 blue in different parts. U would have thought that PJ was more of a perfectionist, he gets most other things right, or is this a secret Elven power i am not aware of yet?
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Old 12-28-2002, 11:14 AM   #2
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Yeah, in the part where Legolas is saying that the people in Helm's Deep are going to die, his eyes look brown! Still, I'm not sure what exactly was going on there. So I don't know if it was an accident.
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Old 12-28-2002, 11:22 AM   #3
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Yeah! I noticed that too. I'm sure it was a mistake...mayhaps.
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Old 12-28-2002, 12:16 PM   #4
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This has been noticed on several occasions.<BR>It happened in Movie #1 as well. Maybe it is supposed to highlight the enigma behind elves or something like that...Welcome to the 'Downs!
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I noticed that I just posted about that on another board you know, I also noticed that his eyes seem to look more like their natural brown in the darker scenes - maybe those blue contacts don't work in the dark?? I don't know much about contacts though....
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Old 12-28-2002, 01:02 PM   #6
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My thinking is that his eyes change color when he's mad in TTT. When he's telling Aragorn that there is no hope or something (sorry I just woke up) before Helm's Deep, they're brown. When he's normal, they're blue. I'd hope a film maker as fabulous as PJ wouldn't let something like that slip!
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Old 12-28-2002, 01:54 PM   #7
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I don't think they changed his eye colouring, I think it has to do more with lighting. People with light eyes look like they have dark eyes when in a dark place.
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Old 12-29-2002, 04:01 PM   #8
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yeah i noticed that! in one part when they show his eyes up close, theyre blue but i swear in the fellowship they were brown! i think its a conspiracy....LOL
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Old 12-29-2002, 04:08 PM   #9
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My sister (who is a big Orlando Bloom fan)noticed this first in the Council of Elrond scene. According to her Orlando Bloom has brown eyes in real life and had to wear colored contacts during the entire filming of the movies, also accoring to her, sometimes when you look at the contacts from different angles you can see his natural eye color because you are not looking at the contact straght on.<P>I know this sounds confusing, but it kind of makes sense if you think about it
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Yes, both my friends and I saw this. Quite annoying, really. Yes Orlando does really have very dark brown eyes, and I was surprised at what a beautiful blue they mangage to make them in the movie. There is really no excuse. As a film-maker, I doubt that it was angles or lighting. And if it was, time to fire a couple of people. Even so, the editor (and the script sup) should have noticed. With their budget, quicky CG effects could have been used. There would be no reason for them to do this purposly. There are plenty of great ways invented to get emotions through to the audience without making yourself look stupid. Now, if this were the only mistake...
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Old 12-31-2002, 08:44 AM   #11
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This whole eye-color question keeps popping up, also with Elijah Wood. The answer, or at least a very significan tpart of it, is in the Extended Version DVD set in the third or fourth DVD. THey show the scene being edited from daytime color to nighttime color. <P>Ayone who has ever messed around on a photoeditor on a computer has some experience with this-- you change the brightness, the intensity and the contrast, using the mouse or by entering numbers. Or, you can go directly to the UNIX method and edit Red, Green, and Blue. Either way, you make the entire scene darker or lighter. You can see them doing this on the S. E. DVD, in one of the special-effects clips. Hence, day turns to night, and Elijah Wood's eyes come out looking... Different! Bluish-purple, or greeny-blue, or midnight-blue, or ... some other wild color. Observers accuse him of wearing colored contact lenses, or having his eyes "digitally enhanced"; and he vehemently denies it (listen to the Actor's commentary) because as far as he knows, he's innocent of all wrongdoing! His contacts are **clear**, and he doesn't pay anybody to make his eyes look like something they're not.<P>The fact is, the Whole Scene WAS digitally enhanced. I'm betting that the actors' eyes are just a by-product. That's what happens when you turn afternoon into midnight, or noon into twilight.
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Old 12-31-2002, 01:17 PM   #12
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Ah! I could kick myself! Of course that must be what happened. I knew they 'color corrected' the movies digitally, but I didn't think about it. Still, have they heard of CG? Hmm, looking at the blue screen and CG scenes in TTT, I'm almost glad they didn't try to fix the eyes. lol
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Old 12-31-2002, 01:53 PM   #13
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Yes I noticed it. I'm sure that it was quite posible for it to be a slip, it seems a bit wierd to do that on purpose, but whatever.
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Thanks, for all the suggestions guys, i just watched it again (after being stood up how evil is that) and i watched really closely it was only in helms deep that his eyes were brown, it took 6 months to film and at night under a rain machine, maybe he got annoyed with the conditions, and couldn't be bothered to put them in, just a thought! bye
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My fanatic friend actually looked that up! I am pretty sure (it said on numerous sites) that PJ was so caught up with making the film, he didnt notice it, and that orlando didnt like the contacts. Also, notice that his eyes are brown in dome of the more intense scenes. PJ probably had a lot more to think about than eye colors.
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I noticed this too, and found this on another forum, I have yet to find the particular part in the book but it may or may not be true....... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>"Actually it's not a mistake. If you read Tolkein, at that part of the story where his eye change color, Tolkein wrote that the Legolas looked like the life had drained from his eyes. They changed the contacts to reflect this"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Thank you mark12_30 for explaining the computer aspects... Orlando has dark brown eyes and wore blue contacts. As a result of lighting and camera angles, sometimes his dark eyes show through the light blue contact lenses.<P>May I ask why it matters?
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Nieninque, it matters because i am petty,and it struck me as weird. His eyes do change colour in FotR aswell!! i have finaly got the extended version, yay, and am watching it now, when the fellowship are on the rocky outcrop taking a rest, and Boromir is teaching the Hobbits Sword fighting, Legolas looks out and sees the crows coming, (if you can) pause it and look at his eyes, there are definately brown!! i am so petty! its just struck me, nevermind
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Old 01-04-2003, 10:50 AM   #19
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I never noticed that his eyes changed colors. I agree with what some of these ppl are saying. Perhaps it was meant to reflect that part of the book or the lights make them appear different. OR they could just change colors on their own...mine do that: one day they'll be blue, the next day: green.<BR>Whatever it is, I still like LoTR and Legolas Now that I know his eyes change colors, I kinda think it's pretty cool! Don't y'all? Elves are mystical, and changing eyes seem mystical. It flows with his character
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As long as we're talking about the mistakes<BR>Peter Jackson did, did you notice that Gollum<BR>has too many teeth ?, Gollum has at least 7<BR>teeth in the movie, in the Hobbit he says<BR>as an answer to one of Bilbo's riddles:<BR>"teeth !, teeth, precios, but we has only six"
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*ponders* Hmmmm... I did not notice that. I have to see it again!
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Well,<P>I heard it some times now, but did not bother to go see it. I don't want to see it. <P>NO......Legolas is perfectly displayed.....No go away you evil critic's..............the dark fire will not afail you.... go away....................MONKEYS!!!!!<P>Hm okay time for my medicine.<P>Greetings,<P>Anuion
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I wouldn't say Legolas only has brown eyes when he's mad, as in the scene when Legolas, Aragorn and Gimli meet Éomer and the Rohirrim, there's a close-up shot of Legolas and he's definitely got really pale blue eyes...but they are contacts 'cause Orlando's eyes are deffo brown.<P>Also, whoever said eyes look different colours in different light is right...I always thought Viggo had really dark blue eyes 'cause in a lot of the publicity shots there's a shadow over his face so his eyes look darker, but in the movie when he's listening for the Uruks' footsteps they are really light blue.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> May I ask why it matters? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It matters because you are living in a world that revolves around Orlando Bloom, and you are constsantly surrounded by leggyboppers.<P>AAAHHHHHHHH!!!! LEGGYBOPPERS!!!! SOO.... EVIL!!!!
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I noticed Legolas' eyes appeared darker in many scenes of FoTR as well. I think it had more to do with lighting.<P>H.C.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> May I ask why it matters? <BR>--------------------------------------------<BR>It matters because you are living in a world that revolves around Orlando Bloom, and you are constsantly surrounded by leggyboppers.<P>AAAHHHHHHHH!!!! LEGGYBOPPERS!!!! SOO.... EVIL!!!!<P> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Too right we are living in a world that revolves around Orlando Bloom!!!! <BR>No, I am not a Leggybopper. Gawd, what an awful name for the poor blighters. <P>Can no one answer that bit about Tolkien saying that the life drained from his eyes? Life draining from the eyes...interesting...haven't heard that one before...<BR>His eye colour is the most amazing brown in real life. Ahem....<BR>What I meant to say was...isn't it interesting how many people have picked up on it???????
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I remember someone in another thread explaining how difficult it is to have blue contacts over dark brown eyes (Bloom's normal eye colour). He or she explained how their peripheral vision is severly reduced. In scenes where Bloom is interacting with other actors, they tend to go with a contact that doesn't restrict his vision as much but comes out a less intense blue, but in close-ups they go back to the vision restricting bright blue contacts.<P>I know nothing about coloured contacts, but this explanation seems to fit with the types of shots in which you may notice Legolas' eyes being darker.<P>H.C.
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Hye speaking of eye colors changing, Arwen's do it to. She is wearing blue contact lenses. I can't see how P.J. missed that because in the FOTR DVD special features disc, he even mentions how the eyes were such an important detail.
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Here is what I think since I have dark brown eyes like Orli. When a person with really dark eyes puts in lighter color contacts, in some light (especially dim light)their eyes will still look brown. You most likely noticed that Orli's eyes were blue in the sun and kind of brown in the shade unless there was light effects like in the forest. :Sigh: That is why I will never get colored contacts because they are a waste of time for me especally when I don't need them in the first place.
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Even though his real eyecolor is brown, I like blue better. He looks awesome with blue eyes.
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On the "lighting" side, I must add something I observed when watching the Extended Fellowship of the Ring many times, but have not seen fit to mention before now. The scenes at Rivendell appear to have been shot with an amber filter. This has the effect of "browning" not only Orli's, but everyone's eyes. Elijah's eyes are a sort of clear light amber in these scenes, and I attribute it to the amber filter. Of course, it could be a digital coloring effect; I just like to call it a "filter," having used one in photography many times.<P>Cheers,<BR>Lyta<P>P.S. I know the effect of which you speak, <B>Silmiel</B>, since I have sort of hazel/brown eyes and own blue contacts because I like the way they look. They leave a ring along the inner part of the iris near the pupil that is still the natural color, and you can see it close up.
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I forgot about filters Lyta for I took a photography class as well. I thought Frodo's eyes looked a little hazel in some of the Rivendel scenes.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Also, whoever said eyes look different colours in different light is right...I always thought Viggo had really dark blue eyes 'cause in a lot of the publicity shots there's a shadow over his face so his eyes look darker, but in the movie when he's listening for the Uruks' footsteps they are really light blue.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sometimes it makes a difference what colour hair you have. Viggo wears a dark brown wig in the movies, so that may play a part in making his blue eyes stand out more than they would without it. Certain things can make eye colour stand out, like wearing orange eyeshadow and black eyeliner, for instance, can make blue eyes look brighter.<P>Just thought I'd chip in!
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Well, in the commentary if the TTT EE, PJ said that Legolas' eye color changed in one scene, because he cut his eye, and couldn't wear contacts for a few days.
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