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Mithalwen · 06-13-2009, 08:57 AM

I am sure all fans of Christopher Lee will be happy to know he has been awarded a knighthood in today's Queen's Birthday Honours - and not before time.

Mnemosyne · 06-13-2009, 10:02 AM

HURRAH! *toasts Sir Lee with appropriate beverage*

Inziladun · 06-13-2009, 11:41 AM

A fine actor, to be sure. His abilty to give an air of menace to a character named 'Count Dooku' alone merits the honour.

Tuor in Gondolin · 06-13-2009, 02:09 PM

Can you name any other LOTR actors who have been, or may
be in the future, knighted? Omg, what if PJ's one!

Tell me you have to be a Uk citizen.

And being a skate boarding elf is an instant disqualification. Right? Right?

Estelyn Telcontar · 06-13-2009, 03:17 PM

Both Ians, McKellen and Holm, have been knighted. And yes, I'm quite sure that being British is a prerequisite.

FeRaL sHaDoW · 06-13-2009, 04:00 PM

What about being a member of the commonwealth?

Formendacil · 06-13-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FeRaL sHaDoW

What about being a member of the commonwealth?

I think it depends...

I can't speak to the situation across the Commonwealth, but that ceased to be much of an option for Canadians some time in the last fifty years or so, possibly dating to about when we *cough cough* patriated the Constitution.

Regardless, I'm delighted to hear that the recipient is now Sir Christopher Lee. He most certainly deserves it.

Mithalwen · 06-14-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Estelyn Telcontar

Both Ians, McKellen and Holm, have been knighted. And yes, I'm quite sure that being British is a prerequisite.

No it isn't - citizens of commonwealth countries receive Knighthoods and Damehoods if their own governments permit them (New Zealand has recently rescinded its rules preventing this so theoretically Peter Jackson could be knighted). Non-british or Commonwealth citizens may receive what is commonly called an "honorary knighthood" - for example Bill Gates, Placido Domingo, Rudi Giuliani, Presidents Reagan, Bush Senior and Mitterand, Chancellor Kohl, Bob Geldof. The holders may use the apropriate initials for their order after their name (eg KBE) but are not dubed and may not call themself Sir /Dame X. An exception is Tony O'Reilly who holds dual British Irish nationality and who has permission from the Irish Government and those foreign citizens who subsequently take out British Nationality (eg the late JP Getty and Yehudi Menuhin).

Unless you are an politician of international Statesman level you usually have to do a serious amount of good work for charity - being very sucessful at music or computers is not enough! The only foreign film director to be given a knighthood is Spielberg...

Of course other countries have order of chivalry - it isn't exclusively British. I worked for someone who was a knight of a Maltese catholic order of chivalry.

It is rather early to say with much confidence which of the other LOTR actors might be honoured. Most are still rather young and some actors decline honours on political or other principal. If this is not the case then I imagine Sean Bean might well be a possibility. Cate Blanchett in my opinion is certainly of the calibre of our current crop of bedamed actresses but as an Australian republican she might well refuse.

Kuruharan · 06-14-2009, 05:56 PM

Congratulations to Sir Christopher on his well deserved honor.

Boo Radley · 06-14-2009, 06:27 PM

He's certainly come a long way from playing Frankenstein's monster in those old Hammer films.

06-13-2009, 08:57 AM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Sir Saruman I am sure all fans of Christopher Lee will be happy to know he has been awarded a knighthood in today's Queen's Birthday Honours - and not before time. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	HURRAH! toasts Sir Lee with appropriate beverage __________________ Got corsets?

06-13-2009, 11:41 AM	#3
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,036	A fine actor, to be sure. His abilty to give an air of menace to a character named 'Count Dooku' alone merits the honour. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

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Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Can you name any other LOTR actors who have been, or may be in the future, knighted? Omg, what if PJ's one! Tell me you have to be a Uk citizen. And being a skate boarding elf is an instant disqualification. Right? Right? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

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Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,499	Sir Gandalf and Sir Bilbo Both Ians, McKellen and Holm, have been knighted. And yes, I'm quite sure that being British is a prerequisite. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

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FeRaL sHaDoW Wight Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 232	What about being a member of the commonwealth? __________________ God created night, but man created darkness....

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Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,589	Congratulations to Sir Christopher on his well deserved honor. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

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Boo Radley Wight Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ohio. Believe it or not. Posts: 145	He's certainly come a long way from playing Frankenstein's monster in those old Hammer films. __________________ Don't believe everything you read on the interwebs. That's how World War 1 got started!