One Thing in Common - Page 23 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nerwen · 02-16-2008, 08:19 AM

Fair enough. I just wasn't sure how this one worked.

Well, this is the first thing I can think of:

Maedhros,

Celegorm,

Freca.

(And they'd have this in common with other people.)

Dimturiel · 03-02-2008, 12:08 PM

Each tried to take something that wasn't theirs to have.
Maedhros tried to take the Silmarils, Celegorm wanted Luthien and Freca wanted Helm's daughter for his son. Each were thwarted in their attempts.

Nerwen · 03-04-2008, 08:01 AM

While that's a perfectly good answer, it's not the one I had in mind.

The Might · 03-27-2008, 02:11 PM

Perhaps that they all insulted certain kings?

Nerwen · 03-27-2008, 07:55 PM

Sorry, no.

Thinlómien · 03-29-2008, 06:42 AM

Could you give us a little hint?

Nerwen · 03-29-2008, 06:50 AM

It's something physical.

The Might · 04-05-2008, 04:35 AM

Aha, maybe the unlikely hair colour.
Freca had dark hair, although the Rohirrim had blonde hair.
And Maedhros and Celegorm, who should have had dark hair also had a different colour.
Maedhors auburn from his grandfather Mahtan and Celegorm had blonde hair.

Nerwen · 04-05-2008, 05:11 AM

You have it, Might.

Well done.

Nerwen · 06-15-2008, 09:03 AM

Might?

Nerwen · 06-22-2008, 04:40 AM

Morgoth

Bilbo

Frodo

Beren

(Again, they weren't the only ones...)

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-22-2008, 05:21 AM

They managed to touch the object named in the title of the books they were in?

Nerwen · 06-22-2008, 05:44 AM

That's rather a good one... but no.

Try again.

Siiw · 06-22-2008, 06:05 AM

They all visited a place where they technically shouldn't have been?

Nerwen · 06-22-2008, 06:25 AM

Sorry, still not the right answer.

It's not something they did, but rather something that happened to them.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 06-22-2008, 06:29 AM

This one is rather week, but. . . . you never know.

They all got injured in battle/fighting

Nerwen · 06-22-2008, 06:49 AM

When I said they had this in common with other people, I didn't mean that many other people.

Try again.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-22-2008, 07:19 AM

I don't recall Bilbo losing a body part, otherwise I would have answered that.

Were they all attacked by giant spiders?

Nerwen · 06-22-2008, 07:33 AM

Indeed they were.

Please take the thread, Nilp.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-22-2008, 07:07 PM

Thanks.

Now then:

Beren

Hûrin

Gwindor

Nerwen · 06-22-2008, 09:11 PM

They were all captured by the enemy?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-23-2008, 08:38 PM

. . . and then . . .?

Nerwen · 06-23-2008, 09:01 PM

Tortured?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-23-2008, 10:40 PM

. . . and then . . .?

Lalaith · 06-25-2008, 02:53 PM

They all escaped from capture by Morgoth.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-25-2008, 09:10 PM

Actually I was thinking of them entering Angband and leaving alive (Beren wasn't captured by Morgoth.)

Well, your turn, Lal.

Lalaith · 07-12-2008, 08:33 AM

Sorry, this is so late.

Eldarion
Gil-galad
Maeglin
Celebrimbor

Gollum the Great · 07-13-2008, 10:47 AM

They all had enchanted items (weapons, rings, etc.).

Lalaith · 07-13-2008, 01:59 PM

No, that's not it.
As far as I can discover, there would be no others on this list. If that helps.

Gollum the Great · 07-13-2008, 02:46 PM

Well, you've just made it harder. A clue?

Lalaith · 07-16-2008, 10:56 AM

Think about family trees.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 07-16-2008, 09:25 PM

They are all from the House of Finwe?

Azaghâl · 07-17-2008, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

[...]
As far as I can discover, there would be no others on this list. If that helps.

It would help if you could be absolutely positive about that.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 07-17-2008, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

No, that's not it.
As far as I can discover, there would be no others on this list. If that helps.

Oh I overlooked this. . .then I am definitly wrong.

Lalaith · 07-18-2008, 10:04 AM

Actually Rune is on the right track.

Lalaith · 07-20-2008, 01:18 PM

I mean totally on the right track. Come on Rune!

Rune Son of Bjarne · 07-20-2008, 07:43 PM

I am confused. . .

It seems that they all represent the end of a family line (if one can put it like that) within the house of Finwe.

Celebrimbor being the last of Feanor's line dying without heirs, just like Gil-galad and Maeglin.

Eldarion is the last decendant we know of. (thus being the last of Finarfin and Fingolfins line)
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That seems to make no sense, but if I was to draw a family tree you would know what I mean.

Anyways I am really confused and cannot see the forest for the trees.

Azaghâl · 07-21-2008, 02:30 AM

And they have to be male, or we would miss Finduilas.

Lalaith · 07-21-2008, 06:26 AM

Don't be confused, Rune, you are spot on. So are you, Azaghal.

They are the last known male descendants of the House of Finwe, down each branch of the tree.
I did think about Finduilas - also the daughters of Aragorn and Arwen; but as I wasn't sure F was entirely canonical, and the daughters didn't have names, I just stuck to the chaps.

Azaghâl · 08-09-2008, 07:00 AM

It's been a while so I thought I'd take it.

Bilbo
Frodo
Tom Bombadil
Samwise

02-16-2008, 08:19 AM	#881
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	Fair enough. I just wasn't sure how this one worked. Well, this is the first thing I can think of: Maedhros, Celegorm, Freca. (And they'd have this in common with other people.) __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

03-02-2008, 12:08 PM	#882
Dimturiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2005 Location: the road less travelled by Posts: 910	Each tried to take something that wasn't theirs to have. Maedhros tried to take the Silmarils, Celegorm wanted Luthien and Freca wanted Helm's daughter for his son. Each were thwarted in their attempts. __________________ Is this the end? No more the hunt, the journey and the goal? That terrifies me most: no more the goal! -Ray Bradbury, Leviathan '99

03-04-2008, 08:01 AM	#883
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	While that's a perfectly good answer, it's not the one I had in mind. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

03-27-2008, 02:11 PM	#884
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,237	Perhaps that they all insulted certain kings? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-27-2008, 07:55 PM	#885
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	Sorry, no. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

03-29-2008, 06:42 AM	#886
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,217	Could you give us a little hint? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

03-29-2008, 06:50 AM	#887
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	It's something physical. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-05-2008, 04:35 AM	#888
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,237	Aha, maybe the unlikely hair colour. Freca had dark hair, although the Rohirrim had blonde hair. And Maedhros and Celegorm, who should have had dark hair also had a different colour. Maedhors auburn from his grandfather Mahtan and Celegorm had blonde hair. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

04-05-2008, 05:11 AM	#889
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	You have it, Might. Well done. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-15-2008, 09:03 AM	#890
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	*bump* Might? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-22-2008, 04:40 AM	#891
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	Another thread revived. Morgoth Bilbo Frodo Beren (Again, they weren't the only ones...) __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-22-2008, 05:21 AM	#892
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,338	Rather facetious. They managed to touch the object named in the title of the books they were in? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-22-2008, 05:44 AM	#893
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	That's rather a good one... but no. Try again. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-22-2008, 06:05 AM	#894
Siiw Newly Deceased Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 6	They all visited a place where they technically shouldn't have been?

06-22-2008, 06:25 AM	#895
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	Sorry, still not the right answer. It's not something they did, but rather something that happened to them. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-22-2008, 06:49 AM	#897
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	When I said they had this in common with other people, I didn't mean that many other people. Try again. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-22-2008, 07:19 AM	#898
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,338	Hmm. I don't recall Bilbo losing a body part, otherwise I would have answered that. Were they all attacked by giant spiders? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-22-2008, 07:33 AM	#899
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	Indeed they were. Please take the thread, Nilp. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-22-2008, 07:07 PM	#900
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,338	Whee! Thanks. Now then: Beren Hûrin Gwindor __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-22-2008, 09:11 PM	#901
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	They were all captured by the enemy? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-23-2008, 08:38 PM	#902
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,338	Incomplete. . . . and then . . .? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-23-2008, 09:01 PM	#903
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	Tortured? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-23-2008, 10:40 PM	#904
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,338	Still incomplete. . . . and then . . .? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-25-2008, 02:53 PM	#905
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,790	They all escaped from capture by Morgoth. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

06-25-2008, 09:10 PM	#906
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,338	Close enough. Actually I was thinking of them entering Angband and leaving alive (Beren wasn't captured by Morgoth.) Well, your turn, Lal. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

07-12-2008, 08:33 AM	#907
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,790	Sorry, this is so late. Eldarion Gil-galad Maeglin Celebrimbor __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

07-13-2008, 10:47 AM	#908
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 391	They all had enchanted items (weapons, rings, etc.). __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

07-13-2008, 01:59 PM	#909
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,790	No, that's not it. As far as I can discover, there would be no others on this list. If that helps. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

07-13-2008, 02:46 PM	#910
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 391	Well, you've just made it harder. A clue? __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

07-16-2008, 10:56 AM	#911
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,790	Think about family trees. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

07-18-2008, 10:04 AM	#915
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,790	Actually Rune is on the right track. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

07-20-2008, 01:18 PM	#916
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,790	I mean totally on the right track. Come on Rune! __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

07-21-2008, 02:30 AM	#918
Azaghâl Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 95	And they have to be male, or we would miss Finduilas.

07-21-2008, 06:26 AM	#919
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,790	Don't be confused, Rune, you are spot on. So are you, Azaghal. They are the last known male descendants of the House of Finwe, down each branch of the tree. I did think about Finduilas - also the daughters of Aragorn and Arwen; but as I wasn't sure F was entirely canonical, and the daughters didn't have names, I just stuck to the chaps. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

08-09-2008, 07:00 AM	#920
Azaghâl Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 95	It's been a while so I thought I'd take it. Bilbo Frodo Tom Bombadil Samwise