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Old 06-01-2003, 06:28 PM   #41
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To my mind, one of the important differences between Paradise Lost and LOTR is that Milton danced with the Devil, whereas Tolkien backed away from giving us a truly replete depiction of Saruman's characterization. I am profoundly interested by the study in Frodo's motivation and behaviour, but I wish we had more of Saruman. If we had had as full a depiction of Saruman as of Gandalf or of Frodo, I think LOTR would have been completely mesmerizing.
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Old 06-02-2003, 05:41 AM   #42
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both of them seem to deal with degenrative cycles. evil becomes powerful and nearly triumphs, but them one or two good people are willing to sacrifice everything and just barely mannage to stop it.
I don't remember anything like that occurring in Paradise Lost.
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:29 AM   #43
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the degenerative cycle is actually mostly humans. it's when Micheal is telling Adam about the future of human kind.
bethberry, i agree that seeing more of sauron could be interesting, but where would it fit in? also, we see a little bit about Morgoth in the Sil. but still, yes it could be interesting to learn more about them both.
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Old 10-17-2004, 01:35 PM   #44
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