Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Has Nogrod disappeared? I am dying to see how the quarterstaff fight goes and who beats whom between Erbrand and Thornden and whether or not one or the other loses his temper....and all that fun stuff.

Seconded!

[Nogrod]

I've not disappeared but even we non-belivers celebrate Christmas / Yule with our families and relatives...

I'm going to try and write the next one today - I have indeed made the randomization already so I only need to turn that piece of data into a narrative. Sorry about the slowness but sometimes RL takes precedence.

[Folwren]

Yes, I figured Christmas had bogged everyone down, but I'd been waiting so long that my patience ran out and I decided to give it a slight nudge.

I am glad to hear that you think you'll be able to write something soon.

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

I'll post something today or tomorrow...

[Nogrod]

Sorry it took time but I have been trying to tidy up in my place as Legate is coming to a visit...

And like normally, please let me know if I have used your characters in a way you think does not seem fit. I have only followed my instincts about them - and the randomiser... I'll be happy to change anything you think should be changed.

But as it went I think it leaves nice open possibilities for Thornden and Erbrand to either reconciliate or to go on continuing the row - as you wish.

The final will be between Eodwine and Thornden against their veteran captains. It will be up here tomorrow (in 24 hours).

[Nogrod]

lmp you gave a hard one as I think many of the writers are either engaged with the QS fights or not in a position to go on questioning strangers... Cnebba would have loved to go on asking but he has a role in looking at the flags at the fights so I then decided to make Stigend approach the old man.

So feel free to write and use Stigend as you wish, or PM me if you have any special ideas... or maybe we should build a post together for it? Depending on what you have in mind. I will be around the next day or two before Legate comes so feel free to PM me about any possible ideas / conversation...

[Folwren]

Great posts, Nogrod! I'm glad Elempie's old fellow is finally engaged in conversation!

The fighting was great. I've posted, Groin, as you see, to engage in conversation to see just where Erbrand is right now. You may continue the row, as Noggy puts it, if you wish.

Cheers!

-- Ellie

[Thinlómien]

Alright, Kath, now you have to come up with a reason for Frodides not to have paid proper attention to the stranger...

[Kath]

Um ... because her writer skim read the post and didn't realise her character could have had a nice chat? Guess not.

I'll have a think and get back to you with a reply tomorrow hopefully.

[Groin Redbeard]

Nice fighting Nogrod, though I am sad that my character lost. I'm looking forward to the final fight.

Originally Posted by Folwren

The fighting was great. I've posted, Groin, as you see, to engage in conversation to see just where Erbrand is right now. You may continue the row, as Noggy puts it, if you wish.

Hmmm... I don't know yet. I'll get my post up right now.

EDIT: I thought that since the fight had just ended and his temper is at it's height that Erbrand would refuse Thornden's offer of help. Sorry Folwren, but perhaps it will make for some interesting events later on.

[littlemanpoet]

I like it that Frodides was "inattentive". It plays well with the kind of 'wares' this old man trades in. So Frodides need not explain anymore than that she barely noticed the man.

You'll see what I mean with the next post, perhaps.

By the way, now that Rowenna is no longer the villainess of Scarburg, I give much credit to Groin for making Erbrand, shall we say, "difficult to get along with". Funny, I would have expected that role more for Crabannan, but Groin certainly is writing his character most consistently. Well done, Groin!

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

By the way, now that Rowenna is no longer the villainess of Scarburg, I give much credit to Groin for making Erbrand, shall we say, "difficult to get along with". Funny, I would have expected that role more for Crabannan, but Groin certainly is writing his character most consistently. Well done, Groin!

I'm flattered LMP! Perhaps Rowenna could give Erbrand some pointers on how to be a villain. I never imagined that my character would be the meany of the group, but to be honest it's quite fun!

[Nogrod]

Nice to see things moving...

I got totally blocked with the fight and then jammed in front of the TV as they showed Blade Runner there. Luckily I peeked in before going to sleep. I have now set the final match on and Stigend has answered the old man. I'll try to come up with the actual fight tomorrow.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

By the way, now that Rowenna is no longer the villainess of Scarburg...

I'll certainly miss her being that.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

I'll certainly miss her being that.

Rowenna can still not get along with Ginna....

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Rowenna can still not get along with Ginna....

True. But I think at this point Ginna wouldn't really care much.

[Nogrod]

Done at last!

I'll think twice before I promise to write two this kind of games in a row with many individual matches in both...

I hope you're satisfied with my decision that lord Eodwine offers Lithor a draw in the end lmp. At that point it just felt to me like something Eodwine would do, that would actually fit his character (at least my feel of him). I'll make them fight it to the end if you wish.

[littlemanpoet]

Nicely turned tale, Noggie!

Eodwine is a bit disappointed that his right hand man Thornden did not win the quarterstaffs, as no doubt he would had he not come to the rescue of his lord.

Think i'll have Eodwine say that to him at some point....

[Folwren]

Oh, it was so close! Very well written, Nogrod! I enjoyed every bout!

I hope Eodwine's not TOO disappointed with Thornden. He was, after all, a little preoccupied.

So...not to seem like I'm rushing it or anything, but I am still anxious and excited about Ginna's dad coming back...are the sword fights next?

-- Foley

[Folwren]

K, I'm dragging this forward, althought there's anything worth dragging here. Gwathy, it's your turn! Oooh, wait...did I promise never to call you that again? Sorry.


Sword fight Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Degas, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Erbrand, Balvir, Matrim, Ginna--> GWATHAGOR

Dancing

Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan, Degas, Wilcred

[littlemanpoet]

*Snicker!* I've posted up for Eodwine.

Noggie, let me know if I should change any words I've put in the mouth of Stigend. I've also given you opportunity to have Stigend protest that Eodwine is too trusting or generous, or what have you ... if you want to go that route. Or not - let me know and I can change the end of my post.

So now you know, Groin! Not a fighter .... exactly. Rather, a wizard. And if any of you wish to object that there were only five Istari, that may very well be, but I insist upon creative license that there cannot be only 5 wizards in all of middle earth - no one said they all have to be angels from Valinor. Some could be extremely long-lived old men who have come across their abilities in ways that are possible in middle earth.

[Nogrod]

Stigend is okay by me. He should be something like that; insecure, not knowing what to do / say or how to act etc. That is conveyed nicely in your post - although there is this, I'm not sure how people at that world would have phrased it...

"It ain't natural!"

I mean something being "natural" kind of requires the division between natural and un- or supernatural only our scientific culture has brought forwards. But yeah, what could it be then? Odd, weird, confusing...?

And Stigend would not protest to an authority, even less to an authority he admires...

So a wizard then... well I thought of that and made my last post accordingly but in a way that was vague enough that if I was wrong it could have been explained just by Stigend being confused. Interesting!


If I'm not able to write a short post leading the stranger to Thornden before you Foley, you should feel free to take that as granted (and if you wish, to write a line or two for Stigend bringing him to Thornden).

I mean Legate is visiting us and now also Aganzir and couple of other Lommy's friends (+ Greenie of course) are here to celebrate the new year and I have first some catering - and then some partying - to do with them.

Happy new year everyone!

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

... although there is this, I'm not sure how people at that world would have phrased it...

I mean something being "natural" kind of requires the division between natural and un- or supernatural only our scientific culture has brought forwards. But yeah, what could it be then? Odd, weird, confusing...?

That's right out of LoR - when Sam is caught by Gandalf eavesdropping, and Sam says, "Please don't turn me into anything unnatural!" ... or something like that? So I was playing on that.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

That's right out of LoR - when Sam is caught by Gandalf eavesdropping, and Sam says, "Please don't turn me into anything unnatural!" ...

Ah, you're right... so it's the prof's problem then.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Ah, you're right... so it's the prof's problem then.

Well know... don't be so hasty to give in there, Master Nogrod. For a philosopher, you're most un-Entishly hasty to give up a point. One could argue, after all, that the Shire and Rohan have very different ways of looking at the world, and while Sam might use the word "unnatural" in such a sense, there's no reason to assume the same of Stigend.

Of course, since I can't help arguing both sides of the issue, it seems to me only fair to support Elempi, and point out that by having Stigend use it, from a reader's perspective the parallel to Sam and Gandalf is made immediately more apparent (and, indeed, when this topic came up here, my first thought was of Sam).

[littlemanpoet]

I've adjusted my latest post to show Stigend accepting Eodwine's decision. I would appreciate someone else posting so that I don't double post (champing at the bit).

[Folwren]

I posted for you, Elempi - now you won't have to double post.

If I put any false words into anyone's mouth, just let me know. I thought that Eodwemer's answer was like him, though. I could be wrong.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

All right, the post I've been trying to get to is now up. With a twist. Enjoy.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Aww, my own little Saeryn all grown up and not emotionally broken any more...

She appears so much healthier under Foley's charge...

I'll have to ponder this idea another time, and avoid the conclusion that Foley is more emotionally stable than I am.

*watches excitedly*

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Aww, my own little Saeryn all grown up and not emotionally broken any more...

She appears so much healthier under Foley's charge...

I'll have to ponder this idea another time, and avoid the conclusion that Foley is more emotionally stable than I am.

*watches excitedly*

Hah! Nothing of the sort. Messed up is more interesting to write. Right?

[Folwren]

lol! I really have no idea what you two were expecting, or what else she could have said at such a moment, but whatever the case is, I've posted. I hope no one is expecting.

-- Foley

(What WERE you thinking of? Her being embarrassed and running off and not knowing what to answer?)

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I hope no one is expecting.

Well, I'd bet Saeryn will be pretty soon.

[littlemanpoet]

Actually, Foley, it crossed my mind that you might have Saeryn say that yes, she would marry, but not tonight. But it's better this way. More Eorling, I hope to think.

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Well, I'd bet Saeryn will be (expecting) pretty soon.

Good one Gwath!

Foley, I must request that you add the following in between the whispered words and her pulling away.

For sheer joy Eodwine hed her tight and spun her around in the air, careless of the formalities of court. And just as careless of said social ordinances, he set her on her feet, drew her face toward his, and kissed her on the lips.

"You know I love you!" he cried.

The crowd whooped and applauded.

Thanks in advance.

But now the order of events for the remainder of the day must be revised, as follows:

Sword fight Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Degas, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Erbrand, Balvir, Matrim, Ginna--> GWATHAGOR

Wedding

Feast

Dancing

Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan, Degas, Wilcred

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Well, I'd bet Saeryn will be pretty soon.

That was actually a typo. I don't even know what I meant to say. Makes me wonder if I wrote something wrong in my post. *scratches head*

Anyway...Elempi, I'll make those changes.

Is Randver's coming going to change anything? Knock stuff off its track? I'm still thinking about that, as you can see.

-- Foley

[Lhunardawen]

Haha, thanks for your continued expectation (and I don't mean anything like what Gwath said ), Foley. I think the only people who will be affected by Randvér's arrival are Ginna and Harreld. Good thing Harreld didn't think of following Eodwine's move, or that will make things more complicated.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

Haha, thanks for your continued expectation (and I don't mean anything like what Gwath said ), Foley. I think the only people who will be affected by Randvér's arrival are Ginna and Harreld. Good thing Harreld didn't think of following Eodwine's move, or that will make things more complicated.

Who's to say it's not on his mind?

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Who's to say it's not on his mind?

I don't think he will act on the idea so soon, though.

[littlemanpoet]

My oh my, Foley, now you've gone and done it. How will Rowenna respond? How does she think the other women will react? Her writer must give this some thought.....

[Thinlómien]

This is getting brilliant. I think I'll post someday this week since I'm back roaming these barrows... if you Kath haven't written by then, I will take the liberty of responding for Frodides along the lines Elempi suggested.

[Kath]

Go for it Lommy, I haven't got Frodides in my head at the moment for some reason and I'd love to see what you do with her.