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Galadel Vinorel · 11-22-2002, 11:36 PM

I was wondering if someone could please answer this question for me~~What is The Two Towers supposed to be rated and why?Also, I know that someone has probally asked this question, but I thought that it would be fun to see what one part in the TTT movie everyone hopes Peter Jackson will include in the movie.So, if you could please post here and tell us what part from the TTT book that you hope P.J. will include in the movie, I would greatly appreciate it. Personally, I hope that P.J. includes the competition between Gimli and Legolas over who will kill the most orcs during the Battle of Helm's Deep.

Tigerlily Gamgee · 11-23-2002, 02:01 AM

From fandango.com <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Rating:*PG-13 - epic battle sequences and scary images<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I really want them to include Sam's Oliphaunt poem. I love that!

Rose Cotton · 11-23-2002, 08:56 AM

I want the whole "Po-ta-toes" conversation between Sam and Gollum. It's so great. I at least want PJ to put some reference of it in the movie. Even if it's just like they did in the first movie with the Shortcut to Mushrooms.

Galadel Vinorel · 11-23-2002, 03:05 PM

Really, it's going to be rated PG-13!! Well, that's good, I thought that it was going to be rated R because of the Battle of Helm's Deep.Yes, I agree with you all. I hope that P.J. puts in those things. Those are some of my favorite parts of TTT. I also like the part when Treebeard meets Pippin and Merry. I think that is SO funny!!

Arwen Imladris · 11-23-2002, 07:23 PM

I think that PJ had some sort of deal that he had to make a PG-13 movie, no scarier. All of the movies will be no more than PG-13.

Pookabunny · 11-23-2002, 07:41 PM

Cool, there was nothing in there that mentioned moments of brief nudity or sexual inuendos. I was kinda worried about that one, with the rumors and all...WOW less than a month!!!!!!!!!!!

Aranel · 11-23-2002, 09:42 PM

There had better not be any innuendo in there!Tolkien didn't put anything even remotely like that in the book. I also want the part with Legolas and Gimli to be included...I thought that was really funny.And when Wormtongue throws the Palantir out the window. *l* and when Gandalf breaks Saruman's staff.

Knight of Gondor · 11-23-2002, 10:02 PM

Yeah! Ain't it great? The same old rating as FotR. (Ever notice F-O-T-R is harder to type than TTT? ) PJ saw no need to stick any gross stuff in there beyond orcs. (Which are bad enough!) As I said in the post that was closed, kudos to PJ for no sex in LotR! (Alright, go ahead Lush, make your comment)

Birdland · 11-23-2002, 10:31 PM

I'm hoping for the Ent Moot, or at least more than one Ent, but I'm not holding my breath.

GreyIstar · 11-23-2002, 11:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I'm hoping for the Ent Moot, or at least more than one Ent, but I'm not holding my breath. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I saw some quote somewhere where they did say that Treebeard was the only real Ent, by meaning there is a model of him and the REST of the Ents are CGI.I for one want to see the Ents march on Isengard not just hear about like in the book.

Pookabunny · 11-24-2002, 03:14 AM

I want to see the Ents marching too!!! Most importantly, I want to see them tear-bleeping around Isengard torturing Saruman and his buddy Grima! I'm looking forward to the battles, of course. And to see Aragorn in action (prrrrrr). And Gollum, I can't forget Gollum. But I'm really looking forward to the Ents!

GreyIstar · 11-24-2002, 03:37 AM

There is also a little part that I would like to see. Its actually kinda of scary once you think about it. It is when Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas get to the edge of Fanghorn and they set camp and build a fire and Gimli gets first watch. He starts fingering his axe and the tree above them starts to shutter. Suddenly he sees an old man in the dark and crys out waking the others they see him and beg him to come forth but he disappears and the horses they had are gone. I always liked it because it is very mysterious and scary because not even the Elf could sense his approach.

Pookabunny · 11-24-2002, 04:32 AM

Right on! Yea JRRT brings Gandalf back soooo cool!!! But, I think we're just going to see him come back like the preview shows (the 'hunters' seem too shocked to see him again).Either way, Gandalf's back. And he's gonna kick some serious bad-guy butt.

dragoneyes · 11-24-2002, 07:02 AM

What's it gonna be be here in Britain? The last one was PG (not recommended for under-8s).I really want to see when Treebeard meets Merry and Pippin.

Rose Cotton · 11-24-2002, 08:46 AM

I kinda wish they hadn't put Gandalf's parts in TTT previews. That way only the people who have read the books would know that Gandalf comes back. It would have been very intresting to hear the audience gasp at his return.

Galadel Vinorel · 11-24-2002, 10:25 AM

Yes, I agree with you, Rose. It would have been funny to hear the audience gasp when Gandalf comes back. But, oh well.... I hope that P.J. puts in all of those parts that you all mentioned. Those are some of the best in the book!!

engwaalphiel · 11-24-2002, 10:33 AM

i think that PJ will have included most of the parts we all want to see and will not make any mistakes leaving things out or changing things *tom bombadil cough cough GLORFINDEL *COUGH ! this film is going to be amazing whatever he does , i can't wait!

Jeli Baggins · 11-24-2002, 02:27 PM

I really wanna see when Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli find Merry and Pippin in Isenguard. I was so surprised when i read about that. And I liked when Merry and Pippin said they would join them in eating to keep them company, and either Leg, Gim, Or Ara says something like I think you would've ate anyway, with our company or not. lol I just thought it reminded me of the hobbit in myself. [ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Jeli Baggins ]

*Varda* · 11-24-2002, 02:27 PM

Common sense would tell you that all the movies will be rated the same. Only a really stupid guy would make the first two movies rated PG, then make the last a 15 so that people couldn't see the end.

GreyIstar · 11-24-2002, 06:46 PM

What I speak of was not Gandalf. When they do finally meet Gandalf Gimli asked if it were him that they saw last night and Gandalf says no.

Orual · 11-24-2002, 09:46 PM

I agree, they shouldn't have had Gandalf in the previews. It was a real shock to me when I read TT, and I think it's kind of a shame that the movie-fans won't get that same shock. (OTOH, they had a whole year to read TT, they should've read it...)I want to see the already-mentioned scene from "Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbits", and Gandalf's break-dancing-free battle with Saruman. I want to see Treebeard, and Gollum, and Faramir...not Arwen, but I'll see her anyway...I want to hear Pippin say "Gollum, gollum!" to Grishnakh, and outsmart all the orcs to save himself and Merry. I want to see Meduseld, and Grima, and Theoden.I want to see the whole thing. ^_^~*~Orual~*~

Arwen Imladris · 01-04-2003, 02:07 PM

You can find a Deleted Scenes List (scenes that might be in TTT special edition) <A HREF="http://dvd.ign.com/articles/381/381227p1.html" TARGET=_blank>here.</A>

01-05-2003, 12:39 AM

I think the movie was awesome but I enjoyed the Fellowship more becasue it seemed truer to the Tolkein spirit. This one had so many scenes that never happened in the books and, though I could never do it and Peter Jacksoin is an overly awesome director, I fdefinitely would have done Treebeard, the ents moot, march, and appearence in general differently. I think the battle at Helms Deep was totally awesome! PJ delved more into the feeling of impending war, which I was hoping he would. Gollum, one of my fave characters, seemed almost real and he was portrayed perfectly. Also the Wargs! All in all, I can't wait to see it again. . .and for it to come on video. . .and pay per veiw so I can get the extended version because my mom won't buy a DVD player.

11-22-2002, 11:36 PM	#1
Galadel Vinorel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien, the Woodlen Realm Posts: 366	Scenes and Ratings!! I was wondering if someone could please answer this question for me~<P>~What is The Two Towers supposed to be rated and why?<P>Also, I know that someone has probally asked this question, but I thought that it would be fun to see what one part in the TTT movie everyone hopes Peter Jackson will include in the movie.<P>So, if you could please post here and tell us what part from the TTT book that you hope P.J. will include in the movie, I would greatly appreciate it.<P><BR>Personally, I hope that P.J. includes the competition between Gimli and Legolas over who will kill the most orcs during the Battle of Helm's Deep. __________________ “Words can never convey the incredible impact of our attitude toward life. The longer I live the more convinced I become that life is 10 percent what happens to us and 90 percent how we respond to it." -Charles R. Swindoll

11-23-2002, 02:01 AM	#2
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,056	From fandango.com<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Rating:PG-13 - epic battle sequences and scary images<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I really want them to include Sam's Oliphaunt poem. I love that! __________________ ~* ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

11-23-2002, 08:56 AM	#3
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	I want the whole "Po-ta-toes" conversation between Sam and Gollum. It's so great. I at least want PJ to put some reference of it in the movie. Even if it's just like they did in the first movie with the Shortcut to Mushrooms. __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

11-23-2002, 03:05 PM	#4
Galadel Vinorel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien, the Woodlen Realm Posts: 366	Really, it's going to be rated PG-13!! Well, that's good, I thought that it was going to be rated R because of the Battle of Helm's Deep.<P>Yes, I agree with you all. I hope that P.J. puts in those things. Those are some of my favorite parts of TTT. I also like the part when Treebeard meets Pippin and Merry. I think that is SO funny!! __________________ “Words can never convey the incredible impact of our attitude toward life. The longer I live the more convinced I become that life is 10 percent what happens to us and 90 percent how we respond to it." -Charles R. Swindoll

11-23-2002, 07:23 PM	#5
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	I think that PJ had some sort of deal that he had to make a PG-13 movie, no scarier. All of the movies will be no more than PG-13. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

11-23-2002, 07:41 PM	#6
Pookabunny Wight Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The only place that matters! Posts: 181	Cool, there was nothing in there that mentioned moments of brief nudity or sexual inuendos. I was kinda worried about that one, with the rumors and all...<P>WOW less than a month!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ "I love you more than I did the week before, I discovered alcohol" - Bare Naked Ladies

11-23-2002, 09:42 PM	#7
Aranel Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 29	There had better not be any innuendo in there!Tolkien didn't put anything even remotely like that in the book.<BR> I also want the part with Legolas and Gimli to be included...I thought that was really funny.And when Wormtongue throws the Palantir out the window. l and when Gandalf breaks Saruman's staff. __________________ All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.

11-23-2002, 10:02 PM	#8
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	Yeah! Ain't it great? The same old rating as FotR. (Ever notice F-O-T-R is harder to type than TTT? ) PJ saw no need to stick any gross stuff in there beyond orcs. (Which are bad enough!) As I said in the post that was closed, kudos to PJ for no sex in LotR! (Alright, go ahead Lush, make your comment) __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

11-23-2002, 10:31 PM	#9
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,757	I'm hoping for the Ent Moot, or at least more than one Ent, but I'm not holding my breath.

11-23-2002, 11:55 PM	#10
GreyIstar Wight Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dallas Posts: 116	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I'm hoping for the Ent Moot, or at least more than one Ent, but I'm not holding my breath. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I saw some quote somewhere where they did say that Treebeard was the only real Ent, by meaning there is a model of him and the REST of the Ents are CGI.<P>I for one want to see the Ents march on Isengard not just hear about like in the book. __________________ Keeper of the site Ring Lord. "Dangerous!" cried Gandalf. "And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord."

11-24-2002, 03:14 AM	#11
Pookabunny Wight Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The only place that matters! Posts: 181	I want to see the Ents marching too!!! Most importantly, I want to see them tear-bleeping around Isengard torturing Saruman and his buddy Grima! I'm looking forward to the battles, of course. And to see Aragorn in action (prrrrrr). And Gollum, I can't forget Gollum. But I'm really looking forward to the Ents! __________________ "I love you more than I did the week before, I discovered alcohol" - Bare Naked Ladies

11-24-2002, 03:37 AM	#12
GreyIstar Wight Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dallas Posts: 116	There is also a little part that I would like to see. Its actually kinda of scary once you think about it. It is when Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas get to the edge of Fanghorn and they set camp and build a fire and Gimli gets first watch. He starts fingering his axe and the tree above them starts to shutter. Suddenly he sees an old man in the dark and crys out waking the others they see him and beg him to come forth but he disappears and the horses they had are gone. I always liked it because it is very mysterious and scary because not even the Elf could sense his approach. __________________ Keeper of the site Ring Lord. "Dangerous!" cried Gandalf. "And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord."

11-24-2002, 04:32 AM	#13
Pookabunny Wight Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The only place that matters! Posts: 181	Right on! Yea JRRT brings Gandalf back soooo cool!!! But, I think we're just going to see him come back like the preview shows (the 'hunters' seem too shocked to see him again).<P>Either way, Gandalf's back. And he's gonna kick some serious bad-guy butt. __________________ "I love you more than I did the week before, I discovered alcohol" - Bare Naked Ladies

11-24-2002, 07:02 AM	#14
dragoneyes Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Completely lost track, sorry! Posts: 743	What's it gonna be be here in Britain? The last one was PG (not recommended for under-8s).<P>I really want to see when Treebeard meets Merry and Pippin. __________________ "We might succeed in roasting Pippin alive inside." - Frodo.

11-24-2002, 08:46 AM	#15
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	I kinda wish they hadn't put Gandalf's parts in TTT previews. That way only the people who have read the books would know that Gandalf comes back. It would have been very intresting to hear the audience gasp at his return.<BR> __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

11-24-2002, 10:25 AM	#16
Galadel Vinorel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien, the Woodlen Realm Posts: 366	Yes, I agree with you, Rose. It would have been funny to hear the audience gasp when Gandalf comes back. But, oh well.... <P>I hope that P.J. puts in all of those parts that you all mentioned. Those are some of the best in the book!! __________________ “Words can never convey the incredible impact of our attitude toward life. The longer I live the more convinced I become that life is 10 percent what happens to us and 90 percent how we respond to it." -Charles R. Swindoll

11-24-2002, 10:33 AM	#17
engwaalphiel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The edge of nowhere Posts: 89	i think that PJ will have included most of the parts we all want to see and will not make any mistakes leaving things out or changing things tom bombadil cough cough <BR>GLORFINDEL COUGH !<BR>this film is going to be amazing whatever he does , i can't wait!<P> __________________ Estel............. Some have it more than others. "Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë!

11-24-2002, 02:27 PM	#18
Jeli Baggins Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 69	I really wanna see when Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli find Merry and Pippin in Isenguard. I was so surprised when i read about that. And I liked when Merry and Pippin said they would join them in eating to keep them company, and either Leg, Gim, Or Ara says something like I think you would've ate anyway, with our company or not. lol I just thought it reminded me of the hobbit in myself. <p>[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Jeli Baggins ] __________________ "My dear Frodo! Hobbits really are amazing creatures. You can learn all that there is to know about their ways in a month, and yet after a hundred years they can still surprise you." ~ Gandalf to Frodo

11-24-2002, 02:27 PM	#19
Varda Maiden of Tears Join Date: May 2002 Location: Valinor. Posts: 572	Common sense would tell you that all the movies will be rated the same. Only a really stupid guy would make the first two movies rated PG, then make the last a 15 so that people couldn't see the end. __________________ 'It must often be so, Sam, when things are in danger: someone has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them' ~Frodo "Life is hard. After all, it kills you." - Katharine Hepburn

11-24-2002, 06:46 PM	#20
GreyIstar Wight Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dallas Posts: 116	What I speak of was not Gandalf. When they do finally meet Gandalf Gimli asked if it were him that they saw last night and Gandalf says no. __________________ Keeper of the site Ring Lord. "Dangerous!" cried Gandalf. "And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord."

11-24-2002, 09:46 PM	#21
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 901	I agree, they shouldn't have had Gandalf in the previews. It was a real shock to me when I read TT, and I think it's kind of a shame that the movie-fans won't get that same shock. (OTOH, they had a whole year to read TT, they should've read it...)<P>I want to see the already-mentioned scene from "Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbits", and Gandalf's break-dancing-free battle with Saruman. I want to see Treebeard, and Gollum, and Faramir...not Arwen, but I'll see her anyway...I want to hear Pippin say "Gollum, gollum!" to Grishnakh, and outsmart all the orcs to save himself and Merry. I want to see Meduseld, and Grima, and Theoden.<P>I want to see the whole thing. ^_^<P>~~Orual~~ __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

01-04-2003, 02:07 PM	#22
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	You can find a Deleted Scenes List (scenes that might be in TTT special edition) <A HREF="http://dvd.ign.com/articles/381/381227p1.html" TARGET=_blank>here.</A> __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

01-05-2003, 12:39 AM	#23
Hobbiton_Girl Guest Posts: n/a	I think the movie was awesome but I enjoyed the Fellowship more becasue it seemed truer to the Tolkein spirit. This one had so many scenes that never happened in the books and, though I could never do it and Peter Jacksoin is an overly awesome director, I fdefinitely would have done Treebeard, the ents moot, march, and appearence in general differently. I think the battle at Helms Deep was totally awesome! PJ delved more into the feeling of impending war, which I was hoping he would. Gollum, one of my fave characters, seemed almost real and he was portrayed perfectly. Also the Wargs!<P> All in all, I can't wait to see it again. . .and for it to come on video. . .and pay per veiw so I can get the extended version because my mom won't buy a DVD player.