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Old 06-05-2019, 05:05 PM   #1
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Turin and Maeglin?

There seems to be a parallel between these two

1. They both wielded a sword made by Eol
2. They both lost their entire family, themselves including.
3. They both fell in love with close kin
4. They were both cursed by a being of darkness.

Are there any other parallels that I've overlooked?
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:41 PM   #2
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There seems to be a parallel between these two

1. They both wielded a sword made by Eol
2. They both lost their entire family, themselves including.
3. They both fell in love with close kin
4. They were both cursed by a being of darkness.

Are there any other parallels that I've overlooked?
One was a noble hero, if horribly unlucky, and the other was a traitorous cur?
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:45 PM   #3
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One was a noble hero, if horribly unlucky, and the other was a traitorous cur?

Don't call him that.....
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:55 PM   #4
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One was a noble hero, if horribly unlucky, and the other was a traitorous cur?
Yes, one was a tragic hero swept up in a Doom that encompassed his whole family, the other was a coward, stalker and a weak-willed turncoat.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:58 PM   #5
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Yes, one was a tragic hero swept up in a Doom that encompassed his whole family, the other was a coward, stalker and a weak-willed turncoat.
Coward? Hardly. He fought in Nirnaeth. In Nirnaeth. And I'd like to see you fare better when a Dark Lord of immense power is focused on you and tortures both your body and your spirit. Endlessly.

He didn't deserve his fate, and I stand by this sentiment. For I post for love of him, as Huinesoron put it.


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In spite of what he's done
I still cherish him, even if I'm the only one

For I feel sorry for him, and this is true
And there's no one else I can turn to.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:39 PM   #6
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Coward? Hardly. He fought in Nirnaeth. In Nirnaeth. And I'd like to see you fare better when a Dark Lord of immense power is focused on you and tortures both your body and your spirit. Endlessly.

He didn't deserve his fate, and I stand by this sentiment. For I post for love of him, as Huinesoron put it.
Most of Beleriand fought in the Nirnaeth, brave people and cowards alike; participation in battle isn't proof of bravery. And we have seen people fare better under Morgoth's torture - Hurin being the prime example.

However, I am not here to dissuade you from liking Maeglin. I am merely arguing with the arguments.
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Old 06-08-2019, 12:32 AM   #7
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So you see him as nothing more than a turncoat? That's a strangely shallow interpretation and it ignores the depth of his character.
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