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Kyranger · 12-09-2010, 11:50 AM

A person?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-09-2010, 12:04 PM

#1
A person?
No.

Pitchwife · 12-09-2010, 12:17 PM

A place, maybe?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-09-2010, 12:23 PM

A person?
No.
Place?
No.

Kyranger · 12-09-2010, 01:26 PM

Object?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-09-2010, 01:54 PM

A person?
No.
Place?
No.
Object? Yes, it's a thing.

Kyranger · 12-09-2010, 03:36 PM

Weapon?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-09-2010, 05:15 PM

A person?
No.
Place?
No.
Object? Yes, it's a thing.
Weapon? I would say no.

Kyranger · 12-09-2010, 05:17 PM

Jewel?

Galadriel55 · 12-09-2010, 09:30 PM

Plant?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-10-2010, 08:51 AM

A person? No.
Place? No.
Object? Yes, it's a thing.
Weapon? I would say no.

Jewel? No.
Plant? No.

Nerwen · 12-10-2010, 09:09 AM

Magical?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-10-2010, 09:25 AM

A person? No.
Place? No.
Object? Yes, it's a thing.
Weapon? I would say no.
Jewel? No.
Plant? No.

Magical? Good question. Yes.

Pitchwife · 12-10-2010, 10:10 AM

Was it ever broken?

Kyranger · 12-10-2010, 02:28 PM

Was it made by the Elves?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-10-2010, 02:34 PM

A person? No.
Place? No.
Object? Yes, it's a thing.
Weapon? I would say no.
Jewel? No.
Plant? No.
Magical? Yes.

Was it ever broken? No.

Was it made by the Elves? I think you could say so.

Galadriel55 · 12-10-2010, 02:41 PM

Palantir(s)?

Pitchwife · 12-10-2010, 02:44 PM

You think we could say so? Hmmm...
Was it made in the Second Age?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-10-2010, 02:55 PM

A person? No.
Place? No.
Object? Yes, it's a thing.
Weapon? I would say no.
Jewel? No.
Plant? No.
Magical? Yes.
Was it ever broken? No.
Was it made by the Elves? I think you could say so.

Palantir(s)? No.

You think we could say so? Hmmm...
Was it made in the Second Age?
The key word of centention/definition
here is "made." (It can be rather fun being a Delphic Oracle-unless
perhaps you're on the receiving end). So in answer to the question,
I do not know of it being used/made in the Second Age, so...no.

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-10-2010, 03:00 PM

On reflection, I lean towards it being considered "made."

Pitchwife · 12-10-2010, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuor in Gondolin

(It can be rather fun being a Delphic Oracle-unless
perhaps you're on the receiving end)

I know!

But don't you worry, it's plenty of fun to prod the Oracle.

Well, since you had to reflect on whether to consider it "made", are you perhaps using "make" here in about the same sense as in "make breakfast" or "make the bed"?
Or, since you can't really be expected to bother with quoting such a ridiculously long question, let me rephrase that in fewer words: Is it perhaps a non-permanent object?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-10-2010, 03:17 PM

A person? No.
Place? No.
Object? Yes, it's a thing.
Weapon? I would say no.
Jewel? No.
Plant? No.
Magical? Yes.
Was it ever broken? No.
Was it made by the Elves? I think you could say so.
Palantir(s)? No.
Second Age? No.

Is it perhaps a non-permanent object? Very good. Yes.

Pitchwife · 12-10-2010, 03:37 PM

Galadriel's mirror?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-10-2010, 04:14 PM

A person? No.
Place? No.
Object? Yes, it's a thing.
Weapon? I would say no.
Jewel? No.
Plant? No.
Magical? Yes.
Was it ever broken? No.
Was it made by the Elves? I think you could say so.
Palantir(s)? No.
Second Age? No.
Is it perhaps a non-permanent object? Very good. Yes.

Galadriel's mirror? A great guess. But wrong.

No.

Galadriel55 · 12-11-2010, 08:15 AM

Galadriel's phial?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-11-2010, 01:07 PM

Galadriel's phial?
Nyet.

Pitchwife · 12-11-2010, 01:31 PM

Hmmm. This is tricky indeed. Let's tackle it from a different angle, then.
Could it be held in hand?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-11-2010, 03:05 PM

Could it be held in hand?
Nein.

In fact, you might say,
The more you grasp it the more it slips away.

Galadriel55 · 12-12-2010, 08:54 AM

This is really confusing. Is it dreams? Sorry if it doesn't make any sense, but its the best I can come up with.

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-12-2010, 12:53 PM

Is it dreams?
No. It's material.

Hint: When was it used? Who by?

Pitchwife · 12-12-2010, 01:05 PM

OK then: Was it used in the Third Age?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-12-2010, 01:16 PM

Was it used in the Third Age?
Yes.

Galadriel55 · 12-12-2010, 01:29 PM

Bruinen? I mean, the way Elrond makes it flood?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-12-2010, 01:35 PM

Bruinen? I mean, the way Elrond makes it flood?
No. Not related to Bruinen.

Galadriel55 · 12-12-2010, 01:39 PM

Was it used by one of the Fellowship members?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-12-2010, 01:42 PM

Was it used by one of the Fellowship members?
No.

Galadriel55 · 12-12-2010, 01:43 PM

And I just had another idea - the writing on the Moria Gates in ithildin?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-12-2010, 01:50 PM

And I just had another idea - the writing on the Moria Gates in ithildin?
Nope.

Hmm. The Third Age does span quite a few years.

Pitchwife · 12-12-2010, 02:16 PM

What has it got in its mind? We wonders, my precioussss. Yes, we wondersss...

Was it made/used/(insert appropriate verb) within the last millennium of the Third Age (i.e. after TA 2000) ?

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-12-2010, 02:52 PM

Was it made/used within the last millennium of the Third Age (i.e. after TA 2000) ?
Yes.

12-09-2010, 12:04 PM	#5882
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	#1 A person? No. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-09-2010, 12:17 PM	#5883
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	A place, maybe? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-09-2010, 12:23 PM	#5884
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A person? No. Place? No. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-09-2010, 01:54 PM	#5886
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A person? No. Place? No. Object? Yes, it's a thing. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-09-2010, 05:15 PM	#5888
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A person? No. Place? No. Object? Yes, it's a thing. Weapon? I would say no. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-09-2010, 11:50 AM	#5881
Kyranger Wight Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 168	A person?

12-09-2010, 01:26 PM	#5885
Kyranger Wight Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 168	Object?

12-09-2010, 03:36 PM	#5887
Kyranger Wight Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 168	Weapon?

12-09-2010, 05:17 PM	#5889
Kyranger Wight Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 168	Jewel?

12-09-2010, 09:30 PM	#5890
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,311	Plant? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-10-2010, 08:51 AM	#5891
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A person? No. Place? No. Object? Yes, it's a thing. Weapon? I would say no. Jewel? No. Plant? No. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-10-2010, 09:09 AM	#5892
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Magical? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

12-10-2010, 09:25 AM	#5893
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A person? No. Place? No. Object? Yes, it's a thing. Weapon? I would say no. Jewel? No. Plant? No. Magical? Good question. Yes. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-10-2010, 10:10 AM	#5894
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Was it ever broken? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-10-2010, 02:28 PM	#5895
Kyranger Wight Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 168	Was it made by the Elves?

12-10-2010, 02:34 PM	#5896
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A person? No. Place? No. Object? Yes, it's a thing. Weapon? I would say no. Jewel? No. Plant? No. Magical? Yes. Was it ever broken? No. Was it made by the Elves? I think you could say so. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-10-2010, 02:41 PM	#5897
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,311	Palantir(s)? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-10-2010, 02:44 PM	#5898
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	You think we could say so? Hmmm... Was it made in the Second Age? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-10-2010, 02:55 PM	#5899
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A person? No. Place? No. Object? Yes, it's a thing. Weapon? I would say no. Jewel? No. Plant? No. Magical? Yes. Was it ever broken? No. Was it made by the Elves? I think you could say so. Palantir(s)? No. You think we could say so? Hmmm... Was it made in the Second Age? The key word of centention/definition here is "made." (It can be rather fun being a Delphic Oracle-unless perhaps you're on the receiving end). So in answer to the question, I do not know of it being used/made in the Second Age, so...no. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-10-2010, 03:00 PM	#5900
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	On reflection, I lean towards it being considered "made." __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-10-2010, 03:17 PM	#5902
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A person? No. Place? No. Object? Yes, it's a thing. Weapon? I would say no. Jewel? No. Plant? No. Magical? Yes. Was it ever broken? No. Was it made by the Elves? I think you could say so. Palantir(s)? No. Second Age? No. Is it perhaps a non-permanent object? Very good. Yes. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-10-2010, 03:37 PM	#5903
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Galadriel's mirror? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-10-2010, 04:14 PM	#5904
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A person? No. Place? No. Object? Yes, it's a thing. Weapon? I would say no. Jewel? No. Plant? No. Magical? Yes. Was it ever broken? No. Was it made by the Elves? I think you could say so. Palantir(s)? No. Second Age? No. Is it perhaps a non-permanent object? Very good. Yes. Galadriel's mirror? A great guess. But wrong. No. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-11-2010, 08:15 AM	#5905
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,311	Galadriel's phial? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-11-2010, 01:07 PM	#5906
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Galadriel's phial? Nyet. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-11-2010, 01:31 PM	#5907
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Hmmm. This is tricky indeed. Let's tackle it from a different angle, then. Could it be held in hand? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-11-2010, 03:05 PM	#5908
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Could it be held in hand? Nein. In fact, you might say, The more you grasp it the more it slips away. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-12-2010, 08:54 AM	#5909
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,311	This is really confusing. Is it dreams? Sorry if it doesn't make any sense, but its the best I can come up with. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-12-2010, 12:53 PM	#5910
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Is it dreams? No. It's material. Hint: When was it used? Who by? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-12-2010, 01:05 PM	#5911
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	OK then: Was it used in the Third Age? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

12-12-2010, 01:16 PM	#5912
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Was it used in the Third Age? Yes. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-12-2010, 01:29 PM	#5913
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,311	Bruinen? I mean, the way Elrond makes it flood? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-12-2010, 01:35 PM	#5914
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Bruinen? I mean, the way Elrond makes it flood? No. Not related to Bruinen. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-12-2010, 01:39 PM	#5915
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,311	Was it used by one of the Fellowship members? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-12-2010, 01:42 PM	#5916
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Was it used by one of the Fellowship members? No. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'