The Wizards - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Iargwath · 08-15-2002, 04:39 AM

My weakest spot in things "middle earthsy" is probably that of the wizards. Im not sure who they are really. And what the actual different types symbolise ie grey, white. Any posts in this topic will be greatly appreciated.
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Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-15-2002, 06:03 AM

Wait, you mean I get the first answer to a querie? I have moved up in the world! Ok, I'll give it my best shot.

The Valar sent five Wizards to Middle-Earth to guide the races against evil. The Wizards were Maiar. (if thats how you spell it) The White wizard was highest in the order and was called Saruman by men. Gandalf was the grey wizard and was second in the order. And Radagast was the Brown wizard and was third.
The other two were blue wizards and their dealings are unclear.

Gandalf was the only one who really succeeded in his task.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-15-2002, 06:19 AM

A thought just struck me. There must be at least 14 different threads on this topic.

Hey, whatever...

Galorme · 08-15-2002, 07:14 AM

Istari rock.

P.S. This will be my last (and very productive) post for a few weeks, as i am off sailing in Greece. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] )

Raefindel · 08-15-2002, 09:58 AM

Don't slip and fall! Just kidding, Have fun. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Rimbaud · 08-15-2002, 10:06 AM

Iargwath - see my post here.

Gwindor · 08-15-2002, 11:00 AM

To add onto Eomers post, the two blue wizards that he said little is known of, went into the east with Saruman when they first arrived in ME. Saruman came back, and the 2 blue wizards stayed in the east and began cults with the less developed societies in the area. the two wizards names were Alatar and Pallando...they were never seen again. They were lesser evils, and were no threat to the rest of ME.

Gwindor

Galadel Vinorel · 08-15-2002, 11:04 AM

Does anyone know who sent the Isitari oveer to Middle Earth? Was it one of the Valar, or Illuvator himself?

***Sharkû*** · 08-15-2002, 11:13 AM

"a council of the Valar, summoned it seems by Manwë ('and maybe he called upon Eru for counsel?'), at which it was resolved to send out three emissaries to Middle-earth"

I really suggest Unfinished Tales and its essay on the istari for all wizard-related questions, on which Tolkien himself often was not certain or definite.

Iargwath · 08-20-2002, 05:10 AM

Hey cool...Thanks guys for all your replys. I desperatley wanted this answered. I appreciate your help.

08-15-2002, 04:39 AM	#1
Iargwath Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 236	The Wizards My weakest spot in things "middle earthsy" is probably that of the wizards. Im not sure who they are really. And what the actual different types symbolise ie grey, white. Any posts in this topic will be greatly appreciated. Thanks [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ 'I waited patiently for the Lord; and He inclined to me, and heard my cry'-Psalm 40 My M-e Forum

08-15-2002, 06:03 AM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Wait, you mean I get the first answer to a querie? I have moved up in the world! Ok, I'll give it my best shot. The Valar sent five Wizards to Middle-Earth to guide the races against evil. The Wizards were Maiar. (if thats how you spell it) The White wizard was highest in the order and was called Saruman by men. Gandalf was the grey wizard and was second in the order. And Radagast was the Brown wizard and was third. The other two were blue wizards and their dealings are unclear. Gandalf was the only one who really succeeded in his task. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-15-2002, 06:19 AM	#3
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	A thought just struck me. There must be at least 14 different threads on this topic. Hey, whatever... __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-15-2002, 07:14 AM	#4
Galorme Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London Posts: 337	Istari rock. P.S. This will be my last (and very productive) post for a few weeks, as i am off sailing in Greece. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ) __________________ Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!

08-15-2002, 09:58 AM	#5
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Don't slip and fall! Just kidding, Have fun. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

08-15-2002, 10:06 AM	#6
Rimbaud The Perilous Poet Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Heart of the matter Posts: 1,062	Iargwath - see my post here. __________________ And all the rest is literature

08-15-2002, 11:00 AM	#7
Gwindor Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 30	To add onto Eomers post, the two blue wizards that he said little is known of, went into the east with Saruman when they first arrived in ME. Saruman came back, and the 2 blue wizards stayed in the east and began cults with the less developed societies in the area. the two wizards names were Alatar and Pallando...they were never seen again. They were lesser evils, and were no threat to the rest of ME. Gwindor __________________ 5/4 of people have problems with fractions.

08-15-2002, 11:04 AM	#8
Galadel Vinorel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien, the Woodlen Realm Posts: 366	Does anyone know who sent the Isitari oveer to Middle Earth? Was it one of the Valar, or Illuvator himself? __________________ “Words can never convey the incredible impact of our attitude toward life. The longer I live the more convinced I become that life is 10 percent what happens to us and 90 percent how we respond to it." -Charles R. Swindoll

08-15-2002, 11:13 AM	#9
*Sharkû* Hungry Ghoul Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,719	"a council of the Valar, summoned it seems by Manwë ('and maybe he called upon Eru for counsel?'), at which it was resolved to send out three emissaries to Middle-earth" I really suggest Unfinished Tales and its essay on the istari for all wizard-related questions, on which Tolkien himself often was not certain or definite.

08-20-2002, 05:10 AM	#10
Iargwath Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 236	Hey cool...Thanks guys for all your replys. I desperatley wanted this answered. I appreciate your help. __________________ 'I waited patiently for the Lord; and He inclined to me, and heard my cry'-Psalm 40 My M-e Forum