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Old 06-17-2011, 04:16 PM   #6681
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Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
Something that is not really there (physically)?
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:56 PM   #6682
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Aii bad choice.. this is going to be a bit too hard philosophically and scientifically. It the way it is presented in the story it has no physical form (though it could be given one) but it can be sensed which may presuppose a sort of physical existance. I bet you wish you hadn't asked. *brain aching and muttering about the phenomenon v. noumenon*
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:00 PM   #6683
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Is it specific to a certain place?
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:13 PM   #6684
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Not limited but it "appears"in the book at a certain place if that helps.
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:21 PM   #6685
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Is it a "proper noun" (has a name, begins with a capital letter, etc)?
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:36 PM   #6686
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Yes it does.
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:57 PM   #6687
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Is it made/activated by a person?
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Old 06-17-2011, 06:45 PM   #6688
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:24 AM   #6689
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Galadriel - yes itis! Well done
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:25 AM   #6690
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I can't help thinking about the Girdle of Melian. Is that it? If not, I have some other ideas...
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:54 AM   #6691
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I would class the Girdle of Melian as location specific - though presumable Melian could exercise her power anywhere,

So, no it isn't.
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:00 AM   #6692
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Is this activated during the First Age?
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:20 AM   #6693
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No it didn't exist at all in the first age.
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:32 AM   #6694
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Ah, ok. I've been thinking about Lammoth, but that cuts it short. I think I'll narrow it down a bit more...

Is it made/activated by an Elf?
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:46 AM   #6695
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Originally made by an elf/elves but not in the form we see it in the books. Not "activated" by elf in story - but no doubt done so at other times but probably in original form.
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:48 AM   #6696
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Lammoth... not a bad idea but ...
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Is it language-related?

Now I keep coming back to the writing on the Doors of Moria, but the letters have a physical form, so I'm perfectly confused.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:13 AM   #6698
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It is language related. Couldn't be more so really. I dont' think you are far off. The thing could have a physical form but doesn't have a single specific one.
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:00 AM   #6699
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Is it a form of writing?
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:14 AM   #6701
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Is it a language?
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:16 AM   #6702
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not a language... but I think you are on the right track
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:18 AM   #6703
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Is it a spell/incantation?
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:31 AM   #6704
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Noooo but very close and if you look at the origins of the word incantation it might almost be a yes.
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:35 AM   #6705
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*searches incantation*

A poem or song, perhaps?
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Yes!!! Now it shouldbe easy for you to decide which....
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Old 06-18-2011, 02:43 PM   #6707
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Made by an elf, but not sung/said by one...

The ann-thenath about Luthien?
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Noooo but ssoooooooooooooooooooo close.
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:22 PM   #6709
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The Gil-galad song?
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:36 PM   #6710
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The fall of Gil-galad indeed - translated from the elvish by Bilbo and sung by Sam... sorry I won't try funny stuff again!
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:39 PM   #6711
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sorry I won't try funny stuff again!
Why not? It was a nice one!

I remember doing a song some time ago, but it was a much lesser known one - Narsilion, I believe.

Ok, I'm ready. Ask away!
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:45 PM   #6712
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Not for me..when I was debating internally if soundwaves were a physical presence... OK get my bugbear first

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Place - no
Can it be touched? - yes
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living thing?
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Place - no
Can it be touched? - yes

Living thing - yes
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ambulant?
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Place - no
Can it be touched? - yes
Living thing - yes

Ambulant - yes, very!!!
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A horse?
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Place - no
Can it be touched? - yes
Living thing - yes
Ambulant - yes, very!!!

A horse? - no, but on very good track
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