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Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 08:55 AM

That's for you to guess.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 08:55 AM

7. Turin (Turnover-over+I)

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 08:55 AM

1. Spoil, but beam endlessly within for him.
2. Two geezers join to make a third! (More nicknames than epesses).
3. Disperse racket because ... oh, just see him!
4. Film genre disquiets him a little.
5. He sounds like a mutilated fish.
6. He's a famous gun, give and take a vowel, but lacks sibilance.
7. Endless pastry adds pronoun for him.
8. Turn, turn, and swallow metal for him.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 08:56 AM

Turin and Turgon are the only names containing 'turn'.

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 08:56 AM

Nope, not Turin.

Or Turgon.

Who has said the name has to contain 'turn?'

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 09:00 AM

3. Leod, from DOLE

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 09:02 AM

Nope.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Nope, not Turin.

Or Turgon.

Who has said the name has to contain 'turn?'

You wrote 'turn, turn'. That means one is an anagram indicator and the other is to be used.

Also, is my guess and reasoning for 7th clue correct?

These are difficult.....

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 09:11 AM

Oh ... turnover as a pastry! A clever guess, but no.

You're right about turn, turn ... but it doesn't have to be the *actual* word, does it?

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 09:31 AM

So a synonym of turn?

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 09:32 AM

Could be.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Could be.

But it might not be, is that it?

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 10:37 AM

So the gun isn't colt either?

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 10:42 AM

I didn't know what you meant by colt. No, colt is not an answer, nor an element of any of the clues.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 10:45 AM

I got clue 8!

Dwalin (AL within WIND)

And 6 is Bilbo (from BB)

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 11:26 AM

And 1 is Balin (BALK-K + IN)

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 11:36 AM

1. Spoil, but beam endlessly within for him.
2. Two geezers join to make a third! (More nicknames than epesses).
3. Disperse racket because ... oh, just see him!
4. Film genre disquiets him a little.
5. He sounds like a mutilated fish.
6. He's a famous gun, give and take a vowel, but lacks sibilance.
7. Endless pastry adds pronoun for him.
DWALIN: Turn, turn, and swallow metal for him.

Well done! Dwalin is correct.

Bilbo and Balin are wrong, though.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 11:37 AM

Theme: Dwarves?

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 11:38 AM

Not dwarves.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 11:41 AM

If the password didn't have 8 words, I'd say that the password is Thorin.....

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 11:45 AM

If it weren't for 'endlessly' part of the clue, #1 would have been Maeglin (gleam+in), but since that part exists, it's not......

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 11:52 AM

Ah, now I see where you're going wrong.

'Spoil' isn't an anagram indicator.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 11:56 AM

Then 1 is Thorin (ROT+IN)

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 11:58 AM

Nope. It ain't.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 12:00 PM

Then I am lost. Nothing makes sense. I keep looking for names, but I can only see Balin, Thorin and Maeglin there.

I tried Fundin too, because of father/son possibility, but he doesn't fit either.....

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 12:04 PM

Or if ACH somehow means 'beam', then we'd get Marach. :/

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 12:11 PM

5. Amdir (MARD+I)

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 12:12 PM

1. Amroth (HARM+THROW-W)

Huinesoron · 06-04-2019, 12:13 PM

Quote:

1. Spoil, but beam endlessly within for him.

So we're looking for a synonym for 'spoil', with a synonym for 'beam', truncated and placed in the middle of it. No anagram indicator.

So if the words were 'ruin' and 'plank', the answer would be ru + pla + in. Except that's not a Tolkien name. ^_^

Spoil could be rot-decay-mould, ruin-wreck-damage, or (if Pervinca is a big fan of Time Team) something like earth, dirt, or even slag (heap, as in blast furnace). Or of course 'soil', but that seems a bit too on the nose.

Beam could be a noun or a verb, and could be light or wood. I think it's used in ships, too.

hS has little time, and no actual ideas, just musings

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

So we're looking for a synonym for 'spoil', with a synonym for 'beam', truncated and placed in the middle of it. No anagram indicator.

Exactement.

It's not as hard as you think.

No further correct *answers* at present, though.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 01:01 PM

Any of these?

https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/spoil
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/beam

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 01:10 PM

I know what #1 is now, and I know your secret weakness too, Pervinca. Just as I am fond of Maeglin, you are fond of Maglor (GLOW-W inside of MAR). And we both used our secret weaknesses quite a lot in our puzzles recently.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 01:14 PM

But what is the connection between Dwalin and Maglor.....?

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 03:12 PM

MAGLOR: Spoil, but beam endlessly within for him.
2. Two geezers join to make a third! (More nicknames than epesses).
3. Disperse racket because ... oh, just see him!
4. Film genre disquiets him a little.
5. He sounds like a mutilated fish.
6. He's a famous gun, give and take a vowel, but lacks sibilance.
7. Endless pastry adds pronoun for him.
DWALIN: Turn, turn, and swallow metal for him.

Well, Maglor is probably my favourite of Feanor's sons, and I sympathise with all of them regarding that stupid oath their father pretty much forced on them. But it's really a coincidence that he has ended up in *so* many of my puzzles.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 03:19 PM

Password: Gondolin?

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 03:25 PM

Afraid not.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 03:26 PM

Is racket or disperse an anagram indicator? Also, by famous gun, do you mean a brand of gun or no?

Pervinca Took · 06-04-2019, 03:30 PM

It's a company that makes guns, but given that I have no interest in guns, it is only famous to me because of the title of a film.

And that is all the hints I am giving tonight.

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 04:33 PM

Well, I found Smith and Wesson. If we remove sibilants, we have Mith and Weon......

Urwen · 06-04-2019, 04:44 PM

I still stand by my reasoning that #3 is Tuor, because nothing else makes sense.

Unless, of course, you say that 'disperse' is synonym to 'mina', in which case, my answer would be different.

06-04-2019, 08:55 AM	#6401
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	That's for you to guess. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 08:55 AM	#6402
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	7. Turin (Turnover-over+I) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 08:55 AM	#6403
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	1. Spoil, but beam endlessly within for him. 2. Two geezers join to make a third! (More nicknames than epesses). 3. Disperse racket because ... oh, just see him! 4. Film genre disquiets him a little. 5. He sounds like a mutilated fish. 6. He's a famous gun, give and take a vowel, but lacks sibilance. 7. Endless pastry adds pronoun for him. 8. Turn, turn, and swallow metal for him. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 08:56 AM	#6404
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Turin and Turgon are the only names containing 'turn'. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 08:56 AM	#6405
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Nope, not Turin. Or Turgon. Who has said the name has to contain 'turn?' __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 09:00 AM	#6406
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	3. Leod, from DOLE __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 09:02 AM	#6407
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Nope. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 09:11 AM	#6409
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Oh ... turnover as a pastry! A clever guess, but no. You're right about turn, turn ... but it doesn't have to be the actual word, does it? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 09:31 AM	#6410
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	So a synonym of turn? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 09:32 AM	#6411
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Could be. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 10:37 AM	#6413
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	So the gun isn't colt either? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 10:42 AM	#6414
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I didn't know what you meant by colt. No, colt is not an answer, nor an element of any of the clues. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 06-04-2019 at 11:32 AM.

06-04-2019, 10:45 AM	#6415
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	I got clue 8! Dwalin (AL within WIND) And 6 is Bilbo (from BB) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 11:26 AM	#6416
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	And 1 is Balin (BALK-K + IN) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 11:36 AM	#6417
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	1. Spoil, but beam endlessly within for him. 2. Two geezers join to make a third! (More nicknames than epesses). 3. Disperse racket because ... oh, just see him! 4. Film genre disquiets him a little. 5. He sounds like a mutilated fish. 6. He's a famous gun, give and take a vowel, but lacks sibilance. 7. Endless pastry adds pronoun for him. DWALIN: Turn, turn, and swallow metal for him. Well done! Dwalin is correct. Bilbo and Balin are wrong, though. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 11:37 AM	#6418
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Theme: Dwarves? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 11:38 AM	#6419
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Not dwarves. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 11:41 AM	#6420
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	If the password didn't have 8 words, I'd say that the password is Thorin..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 11:45 AM	#6421
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	If it weren't for 'endlessly' part of the clue, #1 would have been Maeglin (gleam+in), but since that part exists, it's not...... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 11:52 AM	#6422
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Ah, now I see where you're going wrong. 'Spoil' isn't an anagram indicator. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 11:56 AM	#6423
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Then 1 is Thorin (ROT+IN) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 11:58 AM	#6424
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Nope. It ain't. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 12:00 PM	#6425
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Then I am lost. Nothing makes sense. I keep looking for names, but I can only see Balin, Thorin and Maeglin there. I tried Fundin too, because of father/son possibility, but he doesn't fit either..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 12:04 PM	#6426
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Or if ACH somehow means 'beam', then we'd get Marach. :/ __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 12:11 PM	#6427
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	5. Amdir (MARD+I) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 12:12 PM	#6428
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	1. Amroth (HARM+THROW-W) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 01:01 PM	#6431
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Any of these? https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/spoil https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/beam __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 01:10 PM	#6432
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	I know what #1 is now, and I know your secret weakness too, Pervinca. Just as I am fond of Maeglin, you are fond of Maglor (GLOW-W inside of MAR). And we both used our secret weaknesses quite a lot in our puzzles recently. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 01:14 PM	#6433
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	But what is the connection between Dwalin and Maglor.....? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 03:12 PM	#6434
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	MAGLOR: Spoil, but beam endlessly within for him. 2. Two geezers join to make a third! (More nicknames than epesses). 3. Disperse racket because ... oh, just see him! 4. Film genre disquiets him a little. 5. He sounds like a mutilated fish. 6. He's a famous gun, give and take a vowel, but lacks sibilance. 7. Endless pastry adds pronoun for him. DWALIN: Turn, turn, and swallow metal for him. Well, Maglor is probably my favourite of Feanor's sons, and I sympathise with all of them regarding that stupid oath their father pretty much forced on them. But it's really a coincidence that he has ended up in so many of my puzzles. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 03:19 PM	#6435
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Password: Gondolin? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 03:25 PM	#6436
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Afraid not. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 03:26 PM	#6437
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Is racket or disperse an anagram indicator? Also, by famous gun, do you mean a brand of gun or no? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-04-2019, 03:30 PM	#6438
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	It's a company that makes guns, but given that I have no interest in guns, it is only famous to me because of the title of a film. And that is all the hints I am giving tonight. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-04-2019, 04:33 PM	#6439
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Well, I found Smith and Wesson. If we remove sibilants, we have Mith and Weon...... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.