Red Flows the Sirannon Planning/Discussion Thread - Page 16 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Encaitare · 10-28-2005, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Child

Angoroth has told me to keep an eye on your character.... Any chance of the two of us having a little encounter sometime before the end of this tale? Please pm or post on this thread.

Most certainly. What do you have in mind?

Mithalwen · 10-28-2005, 01:50 PM

One down... three to go.....

Durelin · 10-28-2005, 02:04 PM

Okay, I think I'm going to adjust things a bit.

As long as no one minds, and particularly the Dwarves and Elves of Lindon, what do you think of this: we basically end the game right after the destruction of the city. The end of the game basically occurs with the Elves of Lindon arriving at Ost-in-edhil to find it in ruins. Then, the Dwarves and/or Elves of Lindon can write an epilogue(s) that tells how they finally drove back Sauron's army, but too late for Eregion.

What does everyone think? I'm mainly worried about the Dwarves and Elves of Lindon, if they feel that this is cutting them out of the plot too much. Just let me know, we can continue on as planned, and just try to be quick about it. I certainly haven't been helping with the quickness of things, and for that I apologize.

-Durelin

Folwren · 10-28-2005, 02:21 PM

Little (or no) opinion. If you ask me, you'll find that I think that any time the game ends will be melencholly. I love my dwarf...he's quite fun to work with. But I guess all things must come to an end.

Actually, I was kind of looking forward to a battle with the Dwarves in it. Skald and Bror would make an excellent team, especially if one of them got wounded. Arry's the better writer, so I think it'd be great if I had a chance to wound or...well, I don't want to kill him...Bror and then see a reaction. On the other hand, it would also be really cool to be able to write something like that for Bror.

So, I guess my opinion is that we let the Dwarves fight...at least some.

-- Folwren

Mithalwen · 10-28-2005, 02:21 PM

I have to say I am quite anti this. I think that the Ost in Edhil elves have waited a long time for things to get going for them and now it seems it has been for nothing. Personally speaking I have at least 75% of my posting and backstory as preparation for the refugee stage.

I mean it is your game and up to you but if this is going to happen I may as well kill off my char now and cut my losses time-wise.

Durelin · 10-28-2005, 02:55 PM

I am very sorry my game has been a waste of your time, Mithalwen.

So be it, we continue.

I apologize ahead of time for what will undoubtedly be continued rather sporadic posting from myself.

-Durelin

piosenniel · 10-28-2005, 08:18 PM

First, let me clarify something - Sauron's army is not driven back by the Dwarves and Elves. The Dwarves in Khazad-dum will rush out to keep Sauron's army from overpowering the Elves from Lindon. Sauron's army turns and chases/battles the Khazad Dwarves back to the West Gate, where the Dwarves retreat beneath the mountain and shut the doors against intrusion.

I would expect that this (when Sauron's army's eye is turned away from them and toward the Khazad Dwarves) is when Elrond et al will pick up what refugees they can find and make for a safe haven. (which will turn out to be the hidden valley that will become Imladris).

I would like to have a battle scene for my character, Riv.

So, it seems to me any Elves of Ost-in-edhil who want to die off can certainly do that. The Dwarves and Lindon representative can then probably finish off their part of the game in their own manner.

How does that sound?

Envinyatar · 10-28-2005, 08:49 PM

I've been wondering all this while how Elrond (who hadn't resided in the area he's presently in) would know to head toward the Imladris site.

Do you think that one of the refugees his troops pick up can be the prompt for them heading in that direction? Mithalwen - that could be one of your characters, yes?!

Once the Khazad Dwarves have drawn off Sauron's army's attack on the Lindon Elves, there will need to be a quick decision made on where to go. Elrond's forces might also need to be alerted to other places where refugees from the city have gone to hide themselves away - perhaps along the way?

Sauron's forces, it seems to me, will not chase after the refugees but continue their leader's course in wanting to overrun, destroy, control Eriador (Sauron is bent on defeating and destroying the Lindon Elves, too). As I recall, it is only when Tar-Minastir send troops led by Admiral Ciryatur from Numenor that Sauron's army is defeated and he retreats to Mordor.

So, I'll go with piosenniel's suggestion - the Elves who wish to die in the batlle for the city of Ost-in-edhil can certainly do so, but I'd like a chance to get the refugees together and started toward Elrond's new digs. It shouldn't take us too long to accomplish this.

Opinions - anyone else?

Folwren · 10-28-2005, 08:54 PM

Um...I can't speak for Arry, but I'm thinking that we Dwarves aren't going to be wanting to tromp all the way to Imladris with all you elves. We'll stick with you elves once the ocrs have left everyone alone and we have the refugees fairly safe. Then I think that the Dwarves will leave. However, I'm only a little, young Dwarf, after all, so don't take the correctness of this assumption for granted.

And, Envinyatar - I think we're waiting on you to begin the march.

-- Folwren

Envinyatar · 10-28-2005, 09:19 PM

I had hoped not to have any "march" posts; that is, unless you want some "march" time for your character to develop something.

I was hoping to wait just until the city had fallen and do a short post of how the Lindon and Dwarf forces had arrived at the battle scene and attempted to repulse Sauron's forces. (We are presently at a nebulous time and distance from the battle.)

We could then have a few battle posts in which we are pushed back.

Then the Khazad Dwarves could stream from the West Gate and draw off Sauron's forces from us. At that point we can actually go into where the city was - it will be levelled and either pick up refugees there or retreat to some other site where we will run into refugees.

The Dwarves can then elect to leave at that point or continue with us back toward the mountains - you won't be able to get back in the West Gate, I think. you'll need to go over the mountains and in through the East Gate.

Does this sound OK?

Alcarillo · 10-28-2005, 10:07 PM

Firefoot, I've finally filled in my save. I'm sorry to have kept you waiting for so long!
Child's post should happen before mine in actual time, but it's not a big deal.

Folwren · 10-29-2005, 07:10 AM

Alrighty. That's fine. I just didn't know what you were planning and I only knew I was waiting for you. If you don't mind, then, I'm going to post a camp post...I don't think we need a marching post. Just for the sake of writing, understand. I'm assuming that we are near enough to at least see the smoke from the burning, are we not? Which direction, do you know, are we from the city? And we are planning on continuing on that next morning, right? So, if I write, it would not be out of place to be getting ready to go.

I won't be posting anything until later tonight, if today at all.

-- Folwren

Firefoot · 10-29-2005, 09:08 AM

My save is also filled. Cainenyo has escaped a very unhappy Grimkul, who is now on the hunt for Kharn...

Envinyatar · 10-29-2005, 09:26 AM

We're at least a full day's march from the city. As I said, our timeline is vague, so that as the city falls at the end of the battle we can coordinate it with that event.

We are south of the city. And sure - we can continue on the next morning . . .

Mithalwen · 10-29-2005, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durelin

I am very sorry my game has been a waste of your time, Mithalwen.
-Durelin

That is not what I said. But certainly I will have wasted time unnecessarily if the game is curtailed. And yes I do find that annoying since it will give me a 100% record of my RPG games here being aborted. I really hoped this one would work.

Envinyatar That would be great. I had planned for a fire blast to have killed the rest of Losrian's family save the baby nephew. I have a post prepared for that .... how I am going to get them out of the city plausibly is something I haven't quite worked out. But I can either be vague or work something out if you want to meet her outside the city.....

Envinyatar · 10-29-2005, 12:04 PM

Mithalwen

So, Losrian and the baby will be alive . . .

Once Sauron's army is pulled away from the Lindon Elves we'll head into the city and then north and east toward the mountain range

Map of area here

maybe toward the Hollin Ridge. I was thinking of borrowing a couple of Dwarves (NPC's) who could lead us there.

Maybe we could find your characters in a wooded area just north of the city? A place where her family might have gotten wood for crafting and the shafts your character might have used to fit her arrow points to . . . just a thought. There might be some shelters there built and used by the Elves if their wood harvesting took longer than a day's time.

Just a thought . . . we can go with whatever you think up.

- E -

Mithalwen · 10-29-2005, 12:28 PM

THank you for the map - most helpful..

I think I can work with that scenario

.....

Time to kill off the rest of the folks then

Kath · 10-30-2005, 04:35 PM

Since I reappeared before the battle was over I thought I'd post. But I'm a little confused as to whats happening now, is the RPG going to end when the city has been destroyed? And, though this might seem an odd question, how do we know when that will have happened? Will a person with an in charge character announce it somehow so that characters with ongoing or related storylines can wrap them up?

Encaitare · 10-30-2005, 09:44 PM

My save is filled. Firefoot, Kharn has realized Grimkul's murderous intentions.

Durelin · 11-03-2005, 06:57 PM

The city has been overrun. It is essentially destroyed.

All survivors will be making their way to the surrounding countryside to the West of the city. Anyone who wishes may have their character run into Maegisil and Sairien. Maegisil will be holding on to his sanity enough to be gathering up the survivors as best he can. He will tell them that there is still hope in Lindon, and perhaps even in the Dwarves and Lorien, even if he does not really believe it...

CaptainofDespair · 11-03-2005, 07:23 PM

And now, Celebrimbor has been slain. However, Angoroth has fled the city, and slain himself in the cold north sometime later.

I now leave the command of the hordes to Ulrung, Child.

Firefoot · 11-04-2005, 06:39 AM

Encai - I won't be having a chance to post much this weekend, so I'm going to be writing something up when I get home from school which will include Kharn's demise. So if you want to get something in before that, please do. If you put up a Save, I'll be vague at the start of my post to accomodate for that.

Encaitare · 11-04-2005, 09:09 AM

Firefoot, it's fine if you just get right to it, since Kharn is as good as dead with the way Grimkul's acting.

Plus, I've been somewhat neglecting Glutkask, so I'd like to get back to him. Speaking of which: Child, do you still want there to be some interaction between Glutkask and Ulrung?

Envinyatar · 11-04-2005, 03:14 PM

I've brought the Lindon troops and their Dwarf allies to just about 3 miles from the burning city.

Sauron's troops have started toward us as we advance toward the city. Let's put up a good fight against them, though we will be beaten back from our advance.

Orcs and other baddies feel free to post your attack against us if you wish.

Firefoot · 11-04-2005, 03:20 PM

Okay, I'd say Grimkul is officially mad.

I haven't decided if he's going to die yet or not, but for now, he's engaged in battle with the Dwarves.

Oh, and Ulwakh... not sure what's going on with him at the moment. Last I left him he was wandering around the city somewhere. Later this weekend I'll put up a post dealing with him. Like Grimkul, I haven't decided whether he's going to live or die...

Mithalwen · 11-04-2005, 03:43 PM

I have filled my save and got Losrian plus small child to the wood somewhat implausibly but the kid needed a break.... and her life will be so much more difficult having to cope with the spoilt little brat

. I do hope to tidy it up a bit but I wanted to get it basically sorted since I dunno if I will be able ot post again or much before Wednesday - I am off to Barcelona on Sunday for a couple of days on a work junket.

Envinyatar - do with Losrian what you will if it suits your purpose

short of killing her or selling her to a passing orc.

Folwren · 11-04-2005, 04:08 PM

What a dratted time to loose internet at home...right when it starts getting interesting again!

I may or may not be able to post until Tuesday, I'm not sure. Until then, Arry - use my character as necessary.

Pio, will you please tell those in the Numenorian thread that I'm missing until later? I don't have time now.

-- Folwren

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Done. This is Child but I managed to get here before Pio! Good luck with your internet, Folwren.

Child of the 7th Age · 11-05-2005, 11:17 AM

Envinyatar,

I have placed a post right under yours describing Ulrung's response to the news that there are new visitors about to camp on his doorstep. The baddies are now rushing out to meet you. Feel free to engage.

Sauron's troops are not in the best shape. As you say, some are fanning out over the plane on their own, not any kind of an organized force. I think some are still looting on the back streets of the city and don't give a hoot who is coming. Even Ulrung's so-called organized solidiers are pretty haphazard. A great many of the horses and battle chariots are laden down with booty which should make them slower and less adept.

While Ulrung hates Elves, he has a grudging respect for Dwarves.....

Cami

Envinyatar · 11-05-2005, 01:29 PM

Can someone place this in Arry's first save?

FYI: there are 20 Dwarves fighting, 100 Elves from Lorien with Celeborn, and 500, as I recall, Lindon Elves.

I was thinking that the battle would be fairly short in the writing. And in fact, Pio, you could soon have King Durin and his troops from under the mountain swarm out soon and draw off those attacking Elrond's troops.

Does this sound alright with everyone?

We can then get on to the gathering up of the refugees, the quick passage toward Rivendell, the return of the Dwarves who fought with the Lindon Elves to Khazad-dum and then whatever wind-up posts are needed for the game.

Thoughts?

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Envinyatar’s post

The black tide swarmed against the Elven troops. At first Lord Elrond’s lines held and perhaps even advanced in small increments. Sauron’s troops, though, were relentless and more numerous than the Lindon scouts had reported. The Orcs and Men were fueled by their victory against the city and the blood of their foes that had already bathed their blades.

Elrond’s warriors fanned out; the warriors on each wing pushing forward as far as they were able, extending their formation like the horns on a great bull’s head. Their foes were funneled in and toward the grouping of Dwarves and Celeborn’s Elves that stood firm against them and then fell back slowly.

It was Lord Elrond’s intent to catch the foe between the pincer like extensions of his own troops and squeeze in on them, killing as many of them as he could. For a brief while, his strategy worked. And it might have continued so save for the fact that the Orc and Mannish ranks swelled again and again as their captains pushed them from their looting of the city and against the new threat.

‘Regroup!’ he ordered his captains.

The thinned out lines of Lindon troops pulled back into a tighter formation from which they charged again and again in smaller groups, throwing panic into their foe as their great horses trampled through their unorganized ranks.

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Orëmir’s ranks of bowmen sent a storm of arrows hurtling against Sauron’s army felling as many as they could. As the lines of Orcs and Men drew close, half the bowmen drew their swords and charged against them; while the remaining bowmen fell back a little and rapidly firing arrow after arrow continued to pick off individual targets.

Heaps of dead and dying Orcs and Men dotted the plain before the Lindon Elves and the Dwarves. But it was not enough. There were too many of the foul warriors. Lord Elrond and Lord Celeborn’s troops fell back slowly against the onslaught.

Arry · 11-05-2005, 02:04 PM

OK . . . Envinyatar, I've placed your post in my old SAVE.

Firefoot

I'm going to post that you've killed a Dwarf near my character. Bror and I will go after you. I was thinking we'd give you a heavy whack to the head with the flat of our axe blade.

You can either die in your own post or rally and I'll leave a SAVE then for Folwren so her character can do you in.

Just let me know.

-- Arry

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Edit --- post is filled. Grimkul's been given a mighty whack to his head. Bror (Folwren's character) is still there - you can have another go at him if you like ro have your character die a glorious Orcish death.

Skald's gone on toward the Easterlings, ready to cut off a few at the knees!

piosenniel · 11-05-2005, 03:01 PM

Envinyatar and others

I'll wait for a day or so, to see who wants to post in the present battle scene; then, I'll have King Durin rush out with a large army of Dwarves from from the Western Gate and assail Sauron's army from the rear, drawing them off from Elrond and Celeborn's troops.

Firefoot · 11-06-2005, 01:12 PM

Arry, looks good. I'll have a post up later today. (To kill or not to kill...?)

Folwren · 11-08-2005, 10:36 AM

Well, I'm back - for the time being.

I'm still thinking about what I should write if I post.

Firefoot - you've left Grimkul just lying there. Does that mean that Bror can go ahead an finish him off?

Arry, were you wanting anything to happen to Bror at the time, or would it be just as well for you if at least I made it through pretty much unscathed?

-- Folwren

Folwren · 11-08-2005, 12:19 PM

I've written a post. . .Firefoot, if you don't want Grimkul killed (I don't see how he's going to survive), then I can change that first paragraph to make it not sound like I just killed him, but rather killed another orc.

If anyone else (Arry, particularly) wants me to write or change anything in that post, just say.

-- Folwren

Firefoot · 11-08-2005, 02:49 PM

Folwren - I didn't intend for him to die quite yet. I wanted to write another post which would include his death - I didn't have enough time when I wrote up the post for Ulwakh.

Folwren · 11-08-2005, 03:11 PM

Okay, that's fine. I'll go back and have Bror leave Grimkul, and then, whenever you have time, you can have another Dwarf of Elf kill him. . .or whatever you plan to do.

Alright, then, post Edited. Does that work for you, Firefoot? I can change it again, if need be, you know.

-- Folwren

piosenniel · 11-09-2005, 05:07 PM

King Durin's troops are harassing Sauron's troops from the rear. Pulling them away from the Lindon Elves and the other Dwarves who stayed with them.

I would say it is at least a day later than Skald and Bror's present encounters . . . so the Lindon Elves and the Dwarves with them should be somewhat exhausted by now.

Anyway - you should be able to get out of your tight spot and head a little north west of the fallen city to avoid Sauron's troops for the most part and hopefully to hook up with some refugees.

~*~ Pio

Envinyatar · 11-10-2005, 02:36 PM

Does anyone else wish to post before I pull the Lindon/Lorien Elves and the Dwarves away from the present battle?

The Orcs and Easterlings should have turned now to go after the large Dwarven force that has come at them from behind.

We will head north, bypassing the fallen city a little to the west and then begin to pick up refugees.

Envinyatar · 11-13-2005, 11:55 AM

My SAVE is filled. Elrond and troops are headed to the north of the city - a wooded area as he described it, hoping to find some refugees.

Arry · 11-14-2005, 03:48 PM

My SAVE is filled.

The Dwarves are helping to find any refugees that might have been hiding on the western outskirts of the city. I think we probably won't look there long as Sauron's troops that are still in the city should be moving westward as Envinyatar said.

So - this is an opportunity for an Elf or elves to be found and taken along.

Or did you want us to find you further north? If so - I can emend my post to move us along to there.

Let me know.

- Arry

10-28-2005, 01:50 PM	#602
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	The family butcher One down... three to go..... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-28-2005, 02:21 PM	#604
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Little (or no) opinion. If you ask me, you'll find that I think that any time the game ends will be melencholly. I love my dwarf...he's quite fun to work with. But I guess all things must come to an end. Actually, I was kind of looking forward to a battle with the Dwarves in it. Skald and Bror would make an excellent team, especially if one of them got wounded. Arry's the better writer, so I think it'd be great if I had a chance to wound or...well, I don't want to kill him...Bror and then see a reaction. On the other hand, it would also be really cool to be able to write something like that for Bror. So, I guess my opinion is that we let the Dwarves fight...at least some. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

10-28-2005, 02:21 PM	#605
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	I have to say I am quite anti this. I think that the Ost in Edhil elves have waited a long time for things to get going for them and now it seems it has been for nothing. Personally speaking I have at least 75% of my posting and backstory as preparation for the refugee stage. I mean it is your game and up to you but if this is going to happen I may as well kill off my char now and cut my losses time-wise. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-28-2005, 08:18 PM	#607
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	First, let me clarify something - Sauron's army is not driven back by the Dwarves and Elves. The Dwarves in Khazad-dum will rush out to keep Sauron's army from overpowering the Elves from Lindon. Sauron's army turns and chases/battles the Khazad Dwarves back to the West Gate, where the Dwarves retreat beneath the mountain and shut the doors against intrusion. I would expect that this (when Sauron's army's eye is turned away from them and toward the Khazad Dwarves) is when Elrond et al will pick up what refugees they can find and make for a safe haven. (which will turn out to be the hidden valley that will become Imladris). I would like to have a battle scene for my character, Riv. So, it seems to me any Elves of Ost-in-edhil who want to die off can certainly do that. The Dwarves and Lindon representative can then probably finish off their part of the game in their own manner. How does that sound? __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

10-28-2005, 08:49 PM	#608
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	I've been wondering all this while how Elrond (who hadn't resided in the area he's presently in) would know to head toward the Imladris site. Do you think that one of the refugees his troops pick up can be the prompt for them heading in that direction? Mithalwen - that could be one of your characters, yes?! Once the Khazad Dwarves have drawn off Sauron's army's attack on the Lindon Elves, there will need to be a quick decision made on where to go. Elrond's forces might also need to be alerted to other places where refugees from the city have gone to hide themselves away - perhaps along the way? Sauron's forces, it seems to me, will not chase after the refugees but continue their leader's course in wanting to overrun, destroy, control Eriador (Sauron is bent on defeating and destroying the Lindon Elves, too). As I recall, it is only when Tar-Minastir send troops led by Admiral Ciryatur from Numenor that Sauron's army is defeated and he retreats to Mordor. So, I'll go with piosenniel's suggestion - the Elves who wish to die in the batlle for the city of Ost-in-edhil can certainly do so, but I'd like a chance to get the refugees together and started toward Elrond's new digs. It shouldn't take us too long to accomplish this. Opinions - anyone else? __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

10-28-2005, 02:04 PM	#603
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Okay, I think I'm going to adjust things a bit. As long as no one minds, and particularly the Dwarves and Elves of Lindon, what do you think of this: we basically end the game right after the destruction of the city. The end of the game basically occurs with the Elves of Lindon arriving at Ost-in-edhil to find it in ruins. Then, the Dwarves and/or Elves of Lindon can write an epilogue(s) that tells how they finally drove back Sauron's army, but too late for Eregion. What does everyone think? I'm mainly worried about the Dwarves and Elves of Lindon, if they feel that this is cutting them out of the plot too much. Just let me know, we can continue on as planned, and just try to be quick about it. I certainly haven't been helping with the quickness of things, and for that I apologize. -Durelin

10-28-2005, 02:55 PM	#606
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	I am very sorry my game has been a waste of your time, Mithalwen. So be it, we continue. I apologize ahead of time for what will undoubtedly be continued rather sporadic posting from myself. -Durelin

10-28-2005, 08:54 PM	#609
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Um...I can't speak for Arry, but I'm thinking that we Dwarves aren't going to be wanting to tromp all the way to Imladris with all you elves. We'll stick with you elves once the ocrs have left everyone alone and we have the refugees fairly safe. Then I think that the Dwarves will leave. However, I'm only a little, young Dwarf, after all, so don't take the correctness of this assumption for granted. And, Envinyatar - I think we're waiting on you to begin the march. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

10-28-2005, 09:19 PM	#610
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	I had hoped not to have any "march" posts; that is, unless you want some "march" time for your character to develop something. I was hoping to wait just until the city had fallen and do a short post of how the Lindon and Dwarf forces had arrived at the battle scene and attempted to repulse Sauron's forces. (We are presently at a nebulous time and distance from the battle.) We could then have a few battle posts in which we are pushed back. Then the Khazad Dwarves could stream from the West Gate and draw off Sauron's forces from us. At that point we can actually go into where the city was - it will be levelled and either pick up refugees there or retreat to some other site where we will run into refugees. The Dwarves can then elect to leave at that point or continue with us back toward the mountains - you won't be able to get back in the West Gate, I think. you'll need to go over the mountains and in through the East Gate. Does this sound OK? __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

10-28-2005, 10:07 PM	#611
Alcarillo Shadow of the Past Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minas Mor-go Posts: 1,007	Firefoot, I've finally filled in my save. I'm sorry to have kept you waiting for so long! Child's post should happen before mine in actual time, but it's not a big deal.

10-29-2005, 07:10 AM	#612
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Alrighty. That's fine. I just didn't know what you were planning and I only knew I was waiting for you. If you don't mind, then, I'm going to post a camp post...I don't think we need a marching post. Just for the sake of writing, understand. I'm assuming that we are near enough to at least see the smoke from the burning, are we not? Which direction, do you know, are we from the city? And we are planning on continuing on that next morning, right? So, if I write, it would not be out of place to be getting ready to go. I won't be posting anything until later tonight, if today at all. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

10-29-2005, 09:08 AM	#613
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	My save is also filled. Cainenyo has escaped a very unhappy Grimkul, who is now on the hunt for Kharn...

10-29-2005, 09:26 AM	#614
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	We're at least a full day's march from the city. As I said, our timeline is vague, so that as the city falls at the end of the battle we can coordinate it with that event. We are south of the city. And sure - we can continue on the next morning . . . __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

10-29-2005, 12:04 PM	#616
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	Mithalwen So, Losrian and the baby will be alive . . . Once Sauron's army is pulled away from the Lindon Elves we'll head into the city and then north and east toward the mountain range Map of area here maybe toward the Hollin Ridge. I was thinking of borrowing a couple of Dwarves (NPC's) who could lead us there. Maybe we could find your characters in a wooded area just north of the city? A place where her family might have gotten wood for crafting and the shafts your character might have used to fit her arrow points to . . . just a thought. There might be some shelters there built and used by the Elves if their wood harvesting took longer than a day's time. Just a thought . . . we can go with whatever you think up. - E - __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

10-29-2005, 12:28 PM	#617
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	THank you for the map - most helpful.. I think I can work with that scenario ..... Time to kill off the rest of the folks then __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-30-2005, 04:35 PM	#618
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Since I reappeared before the battle was over I thought I'd post. But I'm a little confused as to whats happening now, is the RPG going to end when the city has been destroyed? And, though this might seem an odd question, how do we know when that will have happened? Will a person with an in charge character announce it somehow so that characters with ongoing or related storylines can wrap them up? __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

10-30-2005, 09:44 PM	#619
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	My save is filled. Firefoot, Kharn has realized Grimkul's murderous intentions.

11-03-2005, 06:57 PM	#620
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	The city has been overrun. It is essentially destroyed. All survivors will be making their way to the surrounding countryside to the West of the city. Anyone who wishes may have their character run into Maegisil and Sairien. Maegisil will be holding on to his sanity enough to be gathering up the survivors as best he can. He will tell them that there is still hope in Lindon, and perhaps even in the Dwarves and Lorien, even if he does not really believe it...

11-03-2005, 07:23 PM	#621
CaptainofDespair Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 413	And now, Celebrimbor has been slain. However, Angoroth has fled the city, and slain himself in the cold north sometime later. I now leave the command of the hordes to Ulrung, Child.

11-04-2005, 06:39 AM	#622
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Encai - I won't be having a chance to post much this weekend, so I'm going to be writing something up when I get home from school which will include Kharn's demise. So if you want to get something in before that, please do. If you put up a Save, I'll be vague at the start of my post to accomodate for that.

11-04-2005, 09:09 AM	#623
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Firefoot, it's fine if you just get right to it, since Kharn is as good as dead with the way Grimkul's acting. Plus, I've been somewhat neglecting Glutkask, so I'd like to get back to him. Speaking of which: Child, do you still want there to be some interaction between Glutkask and Ulrung?

11-04-2005, 03:14 PM	#624
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	I've brought the Lindon troops and their Dwarf allies to just about 3 miles from the burning city. Sauron's troops have started toward us as we advance toward the city. Let's put up a good fight against them, though we will be beaten back from our advance. Orcs and other baddies feel free to post your attack against us if you wish. __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

11-04-2005, 03:20 PM	#625
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Okay, I'd say Grimkul is officially mad. I haven't decided if he's going to die yet or not, but for now, he's engaged in battle with the Dwarves. Oh, and Ulwakh... not sure what's going on with him at the moment. Last I left him he was wandering around the city somewhere. Later this weekend I'll put up a post dealing with him. Like Grimkul, I haven't decided whether he's going to live or die...

11-04-2005, 03:43 PM	#626
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	I have filled my save and got Losrian plus small child to the wood somewhat implausibly but the kid needed a break.... and her life will be so much more difficult having to cope with the spoilt little brat . I do hope to tidy it up a bit but I wanted to get it basically sorted since I dunno if I will be able ot post again or much before Wednesday - I am off to Barcelona on Sunday for a couple of days on a work junket. Envinyatar - do with Losrian what you will if it suits your purpose short of killing her or selling her to a passing orc. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

11-04-2005, 04:08 PM	#627
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	What a dratted time to loose internet at home...right when it starts getting interesting again! I may or may not be able to post until Tuesday, I'm not sure. Until then, Arry - use my character as necessary. Pio, will you please tell those in the Numenorian thread that I'm missing until later? I don't have time now. -- Folwren **************** Done. This is Child but I managed to get here before Pio! Good luck with your internet, Folwren. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis Last edited by Child of the 7th Age; 11-05-2005 at 09:48 AM.

11-05-2005, 11:17 AM	#628
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Envinyatar, I have placed a post right under yours describing Ulrung's response to the news that there are new visitors about to camp on his doorstep. The baddies are now rushing out to meet you. Feel free to engage. Sauron's troops are not in the best shape. As you say, some are fanning out over the plane on their own, not any kind of an organized force. I think some are still looting on the back streets of the city and don't give a hoot who is coming. Even Ulrung's so-called organized solidiers are pretty haphazard. A great many of the horses and battle chariots are laden down with booty which should make them slower and less adept. While Ulrung hates Elves, he has a grudging respect for Dwarves..... Cami __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

11-05-2005, 01:29 PM	#629
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	Can someone place this in Arry's first save? FYI: there are 20 Dwarves fighting, 100 Elves from Lorien with Celeborn, and 500, as I recall, Lindon Elves. I was thinking that the battle would be fairly short in the writing. And in fact, Pio, you could soon have King Durin and his troops from under the mountain swarm out soon and draw off those attacking Elrond's troops. Does this sound alright with everyone? We can then get on to the gathering up of the refugees, the quick passage toward Rivendell, the return of the Dwarves who fought with the Lindon Elves to Khazad-dum and then whatever wind-up posts are needed for the game. Thoughts? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Envinyatar’s post The black tide swarmed against the Elven troops. At first Lord Elrond’s lines held and perhaps even advanced in small increments. Sauron’s troops, though, were relentless and more numerous than the Lindon scouts had reported. The Orcs and Men were fueled by their victory against the city and the blood of their foes that had already bathed their blades. Elrond’s warriors fanned out; the warriors on each wing pushing forward as far as they were able, extending their formation like the horns on a great bull’s head. Their foes were funneled in and toward the grouping of Dwarves and Celeborn’s Elves that stood firm against them and then fell back slowly. It was Lord Elrond’s intent to catch the foe between the pincer like extensions of his own troops and squeeze in on them, killing as many of them as he could. For a brief while, his strategy worked. And it might have continued so save for the fact that the Orc and Mannish ranks swelled again and again as their captains pushed them from their looting of the city and against the new threat. ‘Regroup!’ he ordered his captains. The thinned out lines of Lindon troops pulled back into a tighter formation from which they charged again and again in smaller groups, throwing panic into their foe as their great horses trampled through their unorganized ranks. ---------- Orëmir’s ranks of bowmen sent a storm of arrows hurtling against Sauron’s army felling as many as they could. As the lines of Orcs and Men drew close, half the bowmen drew their swords and charged against them; while the remaining bowmen fell back a little and rapidly firing arrow after arrow continued to pick off individual targets. Heaps of dead and dying Orcs and Men dotted the plain before the Lindon Elves and the Dwarves. But it was not enough. There were too many of the foul warriors. Lord Elrond and Lord Celeborn’s troops fell back slowly against the onslaught. __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

11-05-2005, 02:04 PM	#630
Arry Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 704	OK . . . Envinyatar, I've placed your post in my old SAVE. Firefoot I'm going to post that you've killed a Dwarf near my character. Bror and I will go after you. I was thinking we'd give you a heavy whack to the head with the flat of our axe blade. You can either die in your own post or rally and I'll leave a SAVE then for Folwren so her character can do you in. Just let me know. -- Arry --------------- Edit --- post is filled. Grimkul's been given a mighty whack to his head. Bror (Folwren's character) is still there - you can have another go at him if you like ro have your character die a glorious Orcish death. Skald's gone on toward the Easterlings, ready to cut off a few at the knees! __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world – J.R.R. Tolkien Last edited by Arry; 11-05-2005 at 02:53 PM.

11-05-2005, 03:01 PM	#631
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Envinyatar and others I'll wait for a day or so, to see who wants to post in the present battle scene; then, I'll have King Durin rush out with a large army of Dwarves from from the Western Gate and assail Sauron's army from the rear, drawing them off from Elrond and Celeborn's troops. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

11-06-2005, 01:12 PM	#632
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Arry, looks good. I'll have a post up later today. (To kill or not to kill...?)

11-08-2005, 10:36 AM	#633
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Well, I'm back - for the time being. I'm still thinking about what I should write if I post. Firefoot - you've left Grimkul just lying there. Does that mean that Bror can go ahead an finish him off? Arry, were you wanting anything to happen to Bror at the time, or would it be just as well for you if at least I made it through pretty much unscathed? -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

11-08-2005, 12:19 PM	#634
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	I've written a post. . .Firefoot, if you don't want Grimkul killed (I don't see how he's going to survive), then I can change that first paragraph to make it not sound like I just killed him, but rather killed another orc. If anyone else (Arry, particularly) wants me to write or change anything in that post, just say. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

11-08-2005, 02:49 PM	#635
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Folwren - I didn't intend for him to die quite yet. I wanted to write another post which would include his death - I didn't have enough time when I wrote up the post for Ulwakh.

11-08-2005, 03:11 PM	#636
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Okay, that's fine. I'll go back and have Bror leave Grimkul, and then, whenever you have time, you can have another Dwarf of Elf kill him. . .or whatever you plan to do. Alright, then, post Edited. Does that work for you, Firefoot? I can change it again, if need be, you know. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis Last edited by Folwren; 11-08-2005 at 03:20 PM.

11-09-2005, 05:07 PM	#637
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	King Durin's troops are harassing Sauron's troops from the rear. Pulling them away from the Lindon Elves and the other Dwarves who stayed with them. I would say it is at least a day later than Skald and Bror's present encounters . . . so the Lindon Elves and the Dwarves with them should be somewhat exhausted by now. Anyway - you should be able to get out of your tight spot and head a little north west of the fallen city to avoid Sauron's troops for the most part and hopefully to hook up with some refugees. ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.