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12-13-2005, 01:34 PM | #281 | |
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Now the village won't benefit to hang the cobbler (or atleast the two remaining innocents wouldn't, because that means game over). So, I could vote for myself and have the two remaining wolves tag along and lynch me, granting wolf victory. But, I kind of wander whether I want to be around to see the wolves destroy those two innocents left, it would be rather fun actually, to see my work and their's complete. Though, I guess if I have to I could sacrifice myself for wolf victory.
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12-13-2005, 01:39 PM | #282 | |
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12-13-2005, 01:59 PM | #283 |
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Master Fordim, you clearly have lost your mind. I guess this is an attempt to be totally whacky and cause mass confusion in the village, now the wolves just have to tag onto your vote. But, really trying to pass people off as your the cobbler?
++Boromir88 Fordim and Formendacil are the helpless Innocents. Holby and Kath are the two wolves. I have no idea what Fordim is doing, seems just nuts to me.
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12-13-2005, 02:08 PM | #284 |
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So this village has two Cobblers instead of one?
'Cause that's what it is starting to look like....
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12-13-2005, 02:44 PM | #285 |
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Okay, my fellow wolf, I believe that enough is enough.
I really don't care which of our Cobblers gets the boot, but so long as we vote together, one of them will. Or we can orchestrate a double-lynching. ++ Fordhim Hedhgethistle
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12-13-2005, 03:22 PM | #286 |
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Formendacil, you have played lovely, I would never have suspected it.
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12-13-2005, 03:41 PM | #287 | |
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I was deliciously pleased with that! Morm had it coming to him, with his manipulative ways... (And yes, if anyone needs further proof, I think analysis of this post will show, quite clearly, a wolf gloating over the successful pulling of wool over foolish eyes.)
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12-13-2005, 03:55 PM | #288 |
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Two cobblers?! Then let them both die, although I'm sure Kath will come and mess things up, but she's dead, too!!
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12-13-2005, 04:21 PM | #289 |
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Me? Mess things up! Well not on purpose at any rate. I shall simply refrain from voting. For once it seems the only thing to do!
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12-13-2005, 06:18 PM | #290 |
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Day 5
The stench of doom hung in the air like fog. If a werewolf was not lynched today, then the entire village would be destroyed. Each villager cast a vote, and in the end it was decided that a double lynching would occur; if two wolves were lynched, the village would survive to see the next day; if only one wolf, or no wolves, were lynched, then the village was doomed.
Boro and Fordim were selected to die, both had acted like a King's Man, but nobody in the village was sure which was Ar-Pharazôn's true spy. Their deaths were imaginative: they would be tied to the mast of Boro's boat and the boat would be sunk into the harbor, where a watery grave awaited them. Kath, Holby, and Formendacil led the victims down the pier, the one without the smoldering remains of a pyre, and shoved them onto Boro's boat. The villagers tied them to the mast with itchy rope from the warehouse, where Lhuna's head still remained, unable to be found among the rotting crates. Neither Boro nor Fordim struggled; they seemed happy to be giving up their lives for the werewolves and the destruction of the village. The villagers then drilled a hole into the hull using poor Morm's drill, and the salty water gushed into the boat. The villagers leapt off the boat and onto the pier, to more safely survey the sinking. Boro was now trying to free himself of the ropes when he saw that death was unavoidable, but Fordim stood calm and proud. "I am glad to have helped further our great king's plans!" Then he laughed, just as the mast dipped below the waves. The tops of Boro's and Fordim's heads poked out from the harbor, just enough to let the villagers on the pier survey the drowning. From the pier the villagers could see Boro trying to claw his way to the surface, but as the minutes passed, both victims ceased to move. Kath leaned forward and peered into the water. "Neither are werewolves!" She cried. Her stomach turned upside-down as she realized her horrible fate. She wheeled around, only to see Formendacil and Holbytlass transform into wolves. They grew thick, shaggy hair all over their bodies, and their eyes turned yellow, and they sprouted tails and fangs and snouts. Finally, they grew to an immense size, and burst from their clothing with a howl. Kath was terrified. She shoved past the changing werewolves, and ran into town. There was a tool shed near the warehouse, and there she ran, with the werewolves now in hot pursuit. She locked herself inside and selected a pitchfork from the tools. The werewolves were now at the door, banging on it and clawing it apart. There was no hope of escape: there would be no Alcarillo and Lhuna to wield their swords against the monsters, no Aiwendil with his flashing arrows, and no Jack to lend his sage advice. It was just Kath, alone in the tool shed. She gripped her pitchfork firmly; at least she would not go down without a fight. Gathering her courage, she unbolted the door, and the werewolves sprang inside, with red tongues hanging from their jaws and the scent of blood in the air. Kath thrust her pitchfork with all her strength, but it was no use, and the werewolves were upon her, and they dug into her skin with their claws, and she fell to the dirty floor screaming. * * * * * WEREWOLVES WIN! Dead Alcarillo – mod - impaled upon his own sword – NIGHT 1 dancing spawn of ungoliant – werewolf – pushed off the cliffs and into the sea – DAY 1 Jack – seer – toasted and roasted in forge – NIGHT 2 Rune son of Bjarne – ordinary – burnt at the stake – DAY 2 Gurthang – ordinary – slain in naval engagement – DAY 2 Wilwarin538 – ordinary – killed with fiddle-strings – NIGHT 3 WaynetheGoblin – ordinary – burnt at Gurthang's stake – DAY 3 The Saucepan Man – ordinary – dismembered – NIGHT 4 Lhunardawen – ranger – beheaded – DAY 4 Aiwendil – hunter – killed by Morm – NIGHT 5 Mormegil – ordinary – killed by Aiwendil – NIGHT 5 Boromir88 – ordinary – trapped on his sinking house – DAY 5 Fordim Hedgethistle – cobbler – trapped on Boro's sinking house – DAY 5 Kath – ordinary – killed by werewolves – DAY 5 Living Formendacil – disgruntled office clerk Holbytlass – butcher Excellent game! Seer dreams, hunter picks, and ranger picks coming up soon! |
12-13-2005, 06:20 PM | #291 |
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Seer – The Saucepan Man DAY 1 Hunter – Dancing Spawn NIGHT 2 Seer – Boro Ranger - Aiwendil Hunter - Wilwa DAY 2 Hunter - Fordim NIGHT 3 Ranger – The Saucepan Man Hunter – Wilwa DAY 3 Hunter - Kath NIGHT 4 Ranger – Formendacil Hunter – Lhuna DAY 4 Hunter – Kath? (I'm not sure. Aiwendil, do you remember?) NIGHT 5 Hunter - Mormegil |
12-13-2005, 06:38 PM | #292 |
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Wolves, very well played. I never once suspected Holby. I think she makes a great wolf. I believe that this was Formendacil's first time as a wolf and he played wonderfully.
I played miserably however. I must say that while Fordim played great as a cobbler I think I did better at that role this game . Everything I did seemed to go wrong and I got rather frustrated and it felt like I was a decendent of Hurin and cursed by Morgoth. Anyway great game all and fun modding Alcarillo.
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12-13-2005, 06:45 PM | #293 | |
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Besides, since when am I ever a Wolf? In the 6 or so games I have played I have only been something other than an ordinary villager once! And the morale of the story is that Boro and Morm need to stop getting suspicious of The Saucepan Man around half way through the game. But I must congratulate Holbytlass and Formendacil, even at the risk of provoking further gloating. After a hairy start, I don't believe that either came anywhere near being lynched. I had a residual concern about Formy, although nothing that I was going to act on in the immediate future. And I regarded Holby as almost certainly innocent. Two scarily innocuous Wolves, indeed. How many games must I play before it gets into me befuddled skull that those as seems most innocent are most likely most guilty? Although that reasoning would've probably 'ad me voting for Aiwendil. Well played too, Fordim. It never actually occurred to me that you were the Cobbler before I died, although it should have done. All that separating out villagers into groups and telling us that there might be a Wolf there or there might not. As I said, self-appointed stater of the bleedin' obvious. And it's now painfully obvious what you were aiming to (and did in fact) achieve. Glad I voted for you on Day 1 now, though, and I hereby formally retract my apology. And excellent modding by Alcarillo too. The highly descriptive morning/evening inserts were most entertaining and I loved the background story too. Great job! And an enjoyable game all round, if rather short. I was well aware of the stress these games can cause, but I'm not sure that anything will quite match the tension, from my perspective, towards the end of Day 3, when the voting basically forced me into making a choice between what turned out to be four innocents. I was very close to just voting for myself since I was pretty sure that, practically all of the choices would lead to me being the prime suspect the next day. I'm sorry Wayne, but I am afraid that you were the best choice at the time, although it probably sealed my fate that night. As for the last day, well there was never even a fool's hope. Good try, Boro, but I think that you achieved the best that you could have hoped for, which was to take the Cobbler down with you.
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12-13-2005, 06:46 PM | #294 |
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Well done, Formendacil and Holbytlass - and Spawn, whose death protected Formendacil for the rest of the game!
Apologies to my fellow villagers for dooming us last night - I was utterly convinced that Mormegil was a Wolf, after he voted for Lhuna. Anyway, 'twas tremendous fun. I look forward to playing again. Edit: Yes, it was Kath I hunted on DAY 4 - mainly because I thought she'd be lynched, and I wanted to have my options open that NIGHT - not that it would have done much good. |
12-13-2005, 06:57 PM | #295 |
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Sauce you have my promise that if I'm ever the seer again with you in a game I won't dream of you the first night okay.
I agree with you though, I'm not sure why but always around the middle of the game the scary thought comes to my mind that you are a wolf and I create some crazy theory to fit what you have done no based on fact
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12-13-2005, 07:03 PM | #296 |
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Short comments on the Game
Alcarillo – mod - What can I say but brilliant
dancing spawn of ungoliant – werewolf – Allthough you died early, I thought you did a great job. Never suspectet you. Jack – seer – Had you just survieved a little longer Rune son of Bjarne – ordinary – Now that was a kill that made no sence. Gurthang – ordinary – I love your way of playing this game, quite suprising. Wilwarin538 – ordinary – WaynetheGoblin – ordinary – I was so happy when you actually made a post that was longer than one sentence. If I had lived at the time I would have tried to save you just for that. The Saucepan Man – ordinary – Don't know what to say. . . One moment I thought you were a wolf then I was convinced of your inoccens. Guess it was smart of the wolfs to let you live for a while. Lhunardawen – ranger – Never understood the case against her. I was convinced of her inoccense quite early on. Great Game! Aiwendil – hunter – You played a great game, exept for the killing of Mormegil, but none could have guessed that. First I suspectet you, then I thought you were inoccent and in the end I thought you were a wolf Mormegil – ordinary – Just when you made the dubble lynch happen I was sure you where a Wolf, but as the game went on I became less suspisios of you. Boromir88 – ordinary – I never knew what to think of you! Great stunt you pulled at the end. Fordim Hedgethistle – cobbler – well you played a great game, I never knew what to think of you. At last I convinced my self that you where a wolf. Kath – ordinary – Not much to say about you other than you where most likely inoccent. Formendacil – Wolf – He never suspectet him. Holbytlass – wolf – I was sure you were inoccent! I feel so foolish. . . To sum things up: You guys played great, but the wolfs outsmartet us by doing what no one expectet. I am impressed. |
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I had Fordim down as the Cobbler, and, oh, he is! and Formendacil-wolf was then on my list. I find it very ironic that I voted for a wolf on the first day and got lynched for it. Yes, you got what you all deserved. Oh, and it made me rather angry that you would lynch the cobbler. Simply ignoring him would make more sense(till later at least) for it saves an innocent.
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12-13-2005, 07:28 PM | #299 |
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Night2
Holby: Man, talk about bad luck! Well, what do you think? I say we kill Gurthang cause he's the seer but that of course is instant death to you. But if he's left alive and when no one else claims to be the seer, you're dead anyway and he's gotten to proclaim another dream. It's up to you how we work it tonight since you're on the hot seat. Formen:OUCH!!!! Bad luck indeed! I've only just read the thread... and boy am I freaked... I think you may be right about killing Gurthang. He's dangerous as all heck. Meanwhile, how would it be if I pretended to be the seer? After all, I was the first one to indict Spawn, and she was definitely a Werewolf... Holby: The only thing is that still leaves Gurthang to proclaim about whomever he dreamt about 'tonight'. I say kill him now, you're dead today or tomorrow. But as I said, I'll follow what you want to do. If you want to leave Gurthang, then who shall we kill tonight? I forgot!! about the ranger, he/she is going to protect gurthang! So we need to go a different route, and get Gurthang tomorrow night (assuming he's the real deal) I suggest Jack- I find him to be annoying (in the game ). I thought we were done for, it would be the shortest game in history. Dancing Spawn got lynched-Gurthang dreamt of Formendacil-and I was paranoid that Jack was the hunter and would take me down. I found jack to be annoying 'cause (now here's where I'm an idiot, didn't think of him being the seer) I thought I fumbled into own of his traps and didn't want to debate my way out the next day so "kill him off". Killed Jack. Night3: Formen:What a great day! Man, talk about lucky! You picked off the Seer, we somehow lucked into a double-innocents lynch, and we're both considered fairly innocent. I've got no idea at the moment who to kill (and after last night I'm more than willing to let you pick if worst comes to worst, although I hope it doesn't), or what strategies (if any, because none seems to have worked well) we ought to employ tomorrow.I'm just pumped about a really good day of slaughter! Holby: Cool!! we need to leave SpM cause that's probably who the ranger has chosen. I think we need to kill Wilwarin. She's suspected by alot of people and this will make the others scramble. Or maybe Kath, she's been the ranger more times than I've been wolf. Whatever we're doing seems to be working so far. Tell me what you think if ya can. Something else, in Wayne's first post he bolds an r-o-d which is ord(inary). Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but do you think he might be bluffing? Also, I was thinking of ways to keep the others guessing and I think our kills should have no rhyme or reason, something like, kill the #1 suspect of whoever got lynched (except us o'course) or kill whoever wrote the 9th post of that day. Something to think about, Formen: I thought a little about Fordim, since he's seen as my alter ego, almost... We've been paired together so much, and he thinks me innocent, so his death would shine nothing bad on ME, but still... Wilwa sounds good... Wayne's death would really confuse them, since he's a distraction as much as anything else. Killed Wilwarin. Night 4: Holby: So far so good, we have 'em confused. I think SpM tonight. I'm fairly confident that the ranger protected him last night and therefore can't tonight. Plus, it will confuse things again. What do ya think? Formen: Confusing them is good... SPM is a good choice, on that score. He hasn't had either of us under scrutiny, not really, so killing him could be very perplexing. On the same score, I'm thinking that Fordhim might be a good kill, especially when one adds in that he didn't post at all on Day 3... However, his secondary fears included me, so it's not really a wise thought, now that I think about it... Holby: I think we need to kill off one of the main loud mouths (Spm/Morm) and leave the secondary louds (Fordim/Boro) in place, they'll start to get more suspicion because they both seem to be holding back esp Boro, at least compared to their usual selves. On a personal note, I want to leave Fordim alive as long as possible while I'm still alive because of the whole "score" thing . We'll all get looked at more closely. The only thing is that if SpM is killed, people might think I (being a wolf) killed him since people are starting to think we're in cahoots then his innocent death will clear me. I'm willing to take that risk, in fact, it would be a good thing I did get lynched now. Not that I'm going to try to on purpose but if it happened then there are still so many villagers left for you to hide among. And a wolf working by themself is far harder to catch. Formen: Okay, your logic works for me... SPM it is... Killed SpM. Night5 Holby: Yea!! The ranger got it and quite fitting a wolf did the chop! Tonight I think either Aiwendil or Kath. Both are good candidates for keeping things confused. What say you, or do you have someone else in mind? I really haven't thought about who might be the cobbler, do you think it might be Fordim? Formen: Your guess is as good as mine regarding the Cobbler... and if so, we want to keep him alive. Seven villagers going into the evening, minus one overnight kill (although that Hunter could screw things up) makes six villagers. With a Cobbler we would hold the balance of power. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Fordhim was the Cobbler. Boromir and Morm are playing their usual game, Kath is hardly around, and Aiwendil is playing the worst game I have ever seen if he is a Cobbler. That leaves Fordhim.It also leaves him alive. I'm inclined to agree with your two picks- and I think that Aiwendil is the better one, simply because you've been gunning for him the whole time. Morm has me a little worried... but I think we can survive this game. My main thought is that he has been trying to get the Gifteds to come out of hiding so he can trap us- which would make him the Hunter. Because who other than the Hunter would know if someone was lying?Just a thought... Holby: It's getting down to the wire and I'm not so confident tonight... Fordim-possible cobbler, leave alive Morm-possible hunter, leave alive Kath-seen most suspicious;kill-starting to be a pattern, would rather leave alive Aiwendil-seen innocent;kill-definitely confuse things,might be good bluff for me Boromir-in a way, been under the radar for the village and the wolves; could confuse things cause he'd almost be a safe kill and that's not what we've been doing. possible hunter also. Aiwendil or Boromir-village on the whole see both fairly innocent. Aiwen would be good bluff kill for me. Boro would change the kill pattern for us, that would keep things confused. Thoughts now? Formen: I bet you that Morm is going to take me down if he's the hunter... As for Boromir/Aiwendil, I'd rather see Aiwendil gone, because he's been Morm's ready accomplice- and I'd just as soon not see that. Boromir is more ready to dispute with Morm... and so a better one to leave alive. Otherwise, I agree with your assessment, and think either is good. Killed Aiwendil. ~~~~~~~~~~ This was real fun. I'm sorry our sister wolf, Dancing Spawn, got killed right away, what happened? Glad for the chance to work with Formendacil. Alcarillo, great job modding!! Always a pleasure to be rubbing cyber shoulders with you all.
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Quite frankly, this game was the exact opposite of that one. We had ALL the breaks this time... "innocent" status from almost the beginning, Seer kill on Night2, a Ranger lynching, the Hunter killing the most suspicious villager... After Day1, I was totally expecting another debacle like WWXII, when the Wolves were doomed from Day1. However, once Day2 got into gear, and I discovered that people thought me and Holby both innocent... things started looking up. It's true, Gurthang, that a couple of people worried about me- but the safest place in this game to be, if you are a werewolf, is on the suspect list- as an unimportant suspect. No one pays too as much attention to you there. Henceforth, I propose that this be the "Game of Three Cobblers", since I was totally convinced of Gurthang's Cobbler-ness, then of Fordhim's, and ultimately completely confused as to whether it was Boromir or Fordhim. Anyways, a totally awesome game. And I don't just say that because I won.
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I cannot believe that. You guys were brilliant. I am really surprised that my plan was that close to working completely as I had hoped. To think, if you had just chosen me instead of Jack, then this just might have been the shortest game ever. All I can say is that you guys were just as lucky as I was. But my luck fell through when yours kicked in. Quote:
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Twice a werewolf? You apparently learn from your mistakes. I hate you, Formendacil.
And Holby? Geesh, I never even considered her. Sorry for that case, mormegil. I have to admit, though, that I would have done that in the phantom's game if I haven't been killed by Formendacil! Perhaps it's because you've been playing in every single game I played. This is funnily pathetic, but while reading Alcarillo's death post for me, I was almost in tears! Pity for myself and the village, perhaps. One last thing for this time: Why in the world were you suspecting me??? |
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Ranger's Duty summary
NIGHT 1
I was choosing among The Saucepan Man, Aiwendil, Boromir88, and Fordim. I felt that Boromir88 was quite safe for the time being, and I was a little suspicious of Fordim. That left me with Aiwendil and SpM, and I thought Aiwendil was in greater danger that night because he proved to be a helpful newbie. ++Aiwendil See, I really didn't see that Jack was the Seer. While I blamed the "Ranger" for not doing his/her job properly the next Day, I was kicking myself in the rear for being so blind. NIGHT 2 Reason pointed to guarding SpM that night. I forgot what she said, but ++The Saucepan Man NIGHT 3 Being thoroughly disappointed with the ineffectiveness of Reason, I decided to listen to my child instinct. She pointed to either Holbytlass or Formendacil. (How stupid of me. ) I wanted to guard either Aiwendil or SpM as the latter requested, but I couldn't anymore. Sheesh. ++Formendacil NIGHT 4 I find out that I was lynched, without the villagers hearing so much as a word from me the whole Day. Where did I go wrong? How could I have failed Alcarillo? Fantastic modding, by the way. |
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It was a fun game. Sorry, you had to decipher all my talk and spekkin. It was funny in that I would go to post someone like on the books forum, and "I wuld star' spekkin' like this" and I'd have to go back and change it.
Despite the loss, I was just happy I spotted Fordim as the Cobbler, too bad I could not put my finger down on Formendacil or Holby. Holby really does make a perfect wolf. I would suspect her, then she would say just the right thing to make herself look innocent, well played. Formendacil, I just never thought would be a wolf. If mormegil had been alive, I probably would have been swayed to vote, considering what he would have to say, but other than that, I would never have suspected him. Quote:
I feel bad for lynching Lhuna, that certainly made our situation worse. Though we still would have lost someone that day, because if I didn't vote for Lhuna I was probably going to vote for Kath. I still can't believe Formendacil came out and said he was a wolf, and we're like, nahh, he can't be. I bet you were laughing over that one. Aiwendil, I hope you enjoyed your first game, and perhaps join in another one. You make a good logical thinker. Quote:
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Told you so. Who was said innicent by me and was an ord morm. I cant belive that I win one and I lose all the others that sucks.By the way look at my very first post.
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12-14-2005, 07:47 AM | #306 |
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Great job, Holbytlass and Formendacil! My death has been avenged. Although, I do still find it a bit tragicomical that the first two votes for me came from a fellow wolf and the cobbler.
Oh well, this was a very enjoyable game to read. Well done, all you villagers and especially Alcarillo!
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I knew it! I KNEW it! From the very beginning (when I was still living) my doubt circled about Holby and Formendacil!!!!
Is that why you two killed me that night? Because I'd voted for Formendacil? Good game, wolves. And I'm sure everyone played well, but I coudln't keep up because of the lack of internet. By all apperances, though, you didn't do well enough. I'm really sorry for having died that second night. I didn't mean to be too obvious. But I have to ask you - why didn't you kill Formendacil? He told you outright - more than once - that he was a wolf! And Saucepan Man. . .I only dreamed of you the first night because out of my picks, you seemed the most dangerous - if a wolf - and the most helpful, if an innocent. Unforuntaely, I still failed to leave enough prove behind to keep you alive. Good game, all. -- Jack
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First, I doubt that I am alone in having regarded your behaviour throughout the two days you were with us as highly suspicious. You may have had a plan, but you can hardly blame us for lynching you in light of what you said and did. I was actually beginning to think you genuine towards the end of day 2, but I supported Morm's double lynch plan because you were just so darn confusin'. And secondly, the Wolves may have been taken in by your Seer act, but I did not think for one moment that you might actually be the Seer. Your behaviour, drawing so much attention to you as it did, was just too un-Seer-like. The only possibility was that you were a Seer playing un-Seer-like on purpose, but you pretty much dismissed that idea in my head when you first raised the possibility that you might be the Seer, then admitted that you were protecting the Seer and then tried to make out you were the Seer again. 'Twas undoubtedly a noble plan, executed with worthy intention, but it was flawed. Not least because (as Holby cleverly and seemingly innocently) pointed out, you risked drawing the Ranger's protection away from the Seer and leaving her exposed (a risk that, as it turned out, bacame a reality). Quote:
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Bwa ha ha!!!
Great fun game all! Nice job Boro on smoking me out -- too bad it took you so long. Bwa ha ha ha haaaa!!! It was a lot of fun being the cobbler but talk about a difficult job. Not only was I trying to identify two very crafty wolves I then had to try and hide that I was identifying them. Note to anyone who plays cobbler in the future: your only real strategy is basic survival. I knew that if I could stay alive long enough I'd be able to be of use at the end. For the record: To the innocents: I told you that the wolves would disappear by splitting themselves up amongst my groups.... To the wolves: was that your strategy all along or did my hinting help you at all? To everyone: I had Holby spotted as a wolf about midway, but Formy almost completely got under my radar. When I first voiced suspicions about him, I had no idea, but then I began to think he might be a wolf -- but to stop going after him completely would have been to invite even more suspicion of me, and -- should I be killed and revealed as the cobbler -- of Formy. So I had to keep suspecting him while casting votes and doubt elsewhere. One Special Note to Morm and Aiwendil: Got ya! Bwa HA ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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To explain my reasoning a little, the longer the game goes on without me being killed at night, the more I begin to suspect that the Wolves are trying to get me lynched during the day. It follows that I start suspecting anyone who begins to stir up accusations against me part-way through the game.
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12-14-2005, 12:27 PM | #314 |
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I have to say I suspect you both if you stay alive more than a couple of days, simply because as a wolf you are people I would want dead quickly.
And while Saucepan Man has a sequence of innocence that reminds me of the opening of "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead" - there is always the feeling that surely this time he has to be...... lupine
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But, to be honest, I was going to do that whether I was a Werewolf or not. Day 1 is nothing but real bandwaggoning, since nobody has voting PROOF of guilt. So I was going to sarcastically declare my wolfish innocence whatever my role was. How amusing that I declared Fordhim to be one of my cohorts... Quote:
And, unrelatedly, if I may be allowed a final (or not so final) moment of gloating, I think that Holby and I have topped Kuruharan's WWI feat of appearing innocent.
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I have a constant fear of either being killed at night or suspected during the day if I am not. Cacharoth 22. Although, given my voting record, I find it quite ironic that I have gained a reputation of sorts in this game. I believe that I have cast a vote that actually contributed to the lynching of a Wolf once, maybe twice.
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I did wonder why you didn't analyze me harder, it was a cruel twist of fate I was a wolf again and wasn't sure how serious you would be with the 'score' thing. But that did play a part in our luck, like I said I wanted to keep alive as long as possible and that saved us from killing the cobbler at night. Quote:
The second or third DAY, I caught Wayne's r-o-d, but got it mixed up in my mind while doing dishes, I thought he put c-o-d which could be close to c-o-b(bler) and I was going to rat him out, that would have been a cool bluff, who would think of a wolf getting the cobbler lynched. Boromir, you almost had me with the cobbler bluff, in my hurry I was about to post and reveal myself but what saved me was that you were already a cobbler (the first) and you had instantly voted for yourself, this time you hadn't and that "red flagged" me.
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My dear Master Saucepan, I fear you missed the point of my plan.
All of that stuff, the early vote, listing the possibilities, stating just at the end that I was the Seer, all of that was designed specifically to make me look Seer-like and un-Seer-like at the same time. As long as I never really came out and said anything, the Seer wouldn't have to come and refute my claim, so he would not be killed. Also, I was hoping that I would also appear to be a Seer hiding in the open to the wolves, so they would kill me at night. And lo and behold, it worked. Folwren did not try to stop me, you guys didn't lynch me, the ranger didn't even protect me! The only thing that went wrong was the wolves not killing me. That's right, I wanted them to kill me. My whole plan came down to that one little factor. Had they done that, the entire thing would have been a complete success and gone down in Werewolf Gaming history. Quote:
And I should note that that 'flaw' that Holby pointed out was not really something I worried about. For the plan to work, I would have to make it so that only the wolves believed me to be the Seer. Hence the early vote. If I got a wolf (I did, as I've said way too many times), then they would of course automatically believe me to be the Seer. Innocents (specifically, the Ranger), on the other hand, would not know I had nailed a wolf, and so they would see my vote as strange and suspicious. And the Ranger won't usually protect a strange and suspicious character. Quite simply: it would leave me unprotected and a likely target for the wolves.
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Jack:I thought the ranger would protect Gurthang, the "twinkle in your merry eye" scared me good. Again, dumb-luck on my part, missed the obvious seer hint, thought I had laid it on too thick with you and didn't want to debate with you next DAY so had the luxury of killing you off.
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