"The Fall of Gondolin" Due Out August 30th, 2018

[obloquy]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

There's a passage in the Lost Tale which pretty much proves Balrogs don't have (permanent) wings: just before Glorfindel's battle, we read that Melko has been cutting the wings off eagles to try and reverse-engineer them, but hasn't managed. Unless the balrogs are seen as his guinea pigs, they can't be winged.

No! Morgoth didn't make Balrogs, nor did he make their bodies. They were maiar and thus took forms of their own choosing. What's more, we know that winged forms were possible because Sauron--also an embodied maia--took the shape of a winged vampire (batlike, I guess) in the Lay of Leithian.

You thought you would be the one to slay this old dragon once and for all?

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by obloquy

No! Morgoth didn't make Balrogs, nor did he make their bodies. They were maiar and thus took forms of their own choosing. What's more, we know that winged forms were possible because Sauron--also an embodied maia--took the shape of a winged vampire (batlike, I guess) in the Lay of Leithian.

You thought you would be the one to slay this old dragon once and for all?

Darn. I could argue your first point, but Vampire Thu-Sauron has slain me.

hS