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Bramblerose Gamgee-Took · 05-30-2002, 04:59 AM

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Aosama, the Wandering Star · 05-30-2002, 08:33 AM

I guess what annoyed me most was the transition from Gandalf's line in the book, "Keep it secret, and keep it safe!" to the movie, "Is it secret? Is it safe?" I know it's just changing some punctuation, but the first is the book Gandalf: very much in control, a little comanding, authoritative; but, in this one line, Gandalf is changed into something much weaker, which shouldn't happen until he talks with the mouth of sauron. Yes, I know they're trying to make his comeback more dramatic, but still... it gets on my nerves to see Gandalf somewhat belittled, if only for a second or two of a three-hour movie (Ian McKellen was great, it's the script I had a problem with).

Rosseiliantiel · 05-30-2002, 01:18 PM

They workied to hard trying to make the movie funny: LEAVE IT BE! if it ain't broke don't fix it. 'Let's hunt some orc': urghle i almsot threw up. 'If you him, come adn claim him':I started cracking up...but i don't think that was sposed to b funny... 'nobody tosses a dwarf': hahahaha. i dont generally make jokes when im about to die & am trying to uphold my dignity at the same time, but maybe thats just me but other then that, it was th ebest mmovie of alll time

cookie_crazy · 05-30-2002, 05:42 PM

I do admit that some were quite annoying but on ting is that no combined weight of a man and a hobbit could have ipped that giant stone piece of bridge. Peter Jackson should have rewritten this movie several more times

Saxony Tarn · 05-31-2002, 01:47 PM

WHAT -- ??!! "A Ranger caught off his guard?" was one of the funniest comic-relief lines in that whole flick! i have been known to spout that if they wrote Arwen's role that way JUST TO USE THAT LINE i say heartily "more power to 'em" - - - and i can't wait to see what lines they hand Eowyn later on..."8 there are yet 9 there were" though, i am in utter agreement on -- how does the author of that one fanfic "review by Glorfindel & Bombadil" put it, "Celeborn tries so hard to look like he wears the trousers in this one and fails miserably" ?? (doubly sad as it's the only line he gets. Take 459 on that one, please)s.t. |_|) <-- it comes in pints, and this one's for you, Pippin!

VanimaEdhel · 05-31-2002, 02:19 PM

Yes: The last line by Aragorn was... errr... how do I put this delicately...BAD. LOL.It was all good until that point. Except the Wizard's dual...that was a bit lacking. It would have been more amusing if...well: it would have been a lot better if they used actual fighting instead of throwing each other around...fire of some sort, etc. (Hey! Gandalf is keeper of that ring, after all!) Haha...I was joking with a friend: it would have been better with machetes than how it was. But: that was another part I didn't really like.Aragorn was, in general, a bit too... American in the movie. Just the lines he had. I don't mind that Viggo HAD an American accent, I just wanted the character to be more...oh...Rangerly, I guess.Maybe he'll be better in TTT (Oh! BTW: If any of you have the stomach for MTV: they're doing a little "Behind the Scenes" 5 minute pre-recorded thing on TTT during the "MTV Movie Awards" on Thursday. The show starts at 9:00 p.m. and LotR is up for about...6 or 7 awards (there are only about 11 awards, really...maybe 13)).

Snowdog · 07-04-2023, 10:19 PM

Annoying movie lines? As the dears and decades roll on, more and more things annoy me about the PJ fanfics. it is generally with the overall screenplay, and I have to laugh when I see PJ movie LotR lovers being so crit on Rings of Power. Anyway, the three movie lines that still bug me the most:

"A Ranger caught off his guard?"
"Let's hunt some orc."
"Go home Sam."

I could go on and on about these movies...

Huinesoron · 07-05-2023, 02:37 AM

"A chance for Faramir, captain of Gondor, to show his quality."

[Immediately kidnaps the Ringbearer, drags him halfway to Minas Tirith, drops him in the middle of a siege and puts him directly in front of a Nazgul]

No, Faramir! Bad! That's not what that line is supposed to mean.

After all these years, my overall view of the Movies is pretty much unchanged: while I enjoy nitpicking all of them, FotR was actually incredible, RotK was at least a visual feast, and TTT was an utter shambles that smashed plot and sanity to pieces every time it got near a battle sequence.

hS

Morthoron · 07-05-2023, 10:55 AM

The whinging Elrond portrayal in the films capped by the peevish, "Our list of allies growns thin."

So many stomach-churning misportrayals in Jackson's debacles, but one would think that a being such as Elrond, who at this point in ME history is roughly 6,437 years old, would have better control of his emotions.

Then, of course, there is Elrond's equally miserable "Arwen is dying" nonsense.

Alassë Estel · 07-05-2023, 10:59 AM

The line that irritates me the most occurs after The Battle of Pelenor Fields, when The King of The Dead, and the army of The Dead, have assembled to be freed from their living death and for their oaths to be held fulfilled.

The King of The Dead says: "Release us!"

Then Gimli says: "Bad idea! Very handy in a tight spot, these lads...despite the fact they're dead."

Which leaves us to assume that Gimli was suggesting that Aragorn should have gone back on his word and do precisely what got all those ghosts in that mess in the first place. Book-Gimli certainly would never have suggested such a thing.

***Mithadan*** · 09-20-2023, 08:22 PM

Alasse, you picked a good (or bad) one. Gimli got stuck with a lot of bad lines. “Toss me” leaps to mind. Then there’s his burp in Edoras. I’m sure there are more. It seems that Jackson generally used Dwarves as comic relief. The Hobbit movies were even worse.

Alassë Estel · 09-21-2023, 07:51 AM

Yes, I quite agree.

While I give the Hobbit movies more credit than many, I find it rather appalling just how discourteous and oafish the Dwarves were portrayed to be.

I think, Tolkien's Dwarves are "less refined" in a way perhaps, as compared to other peoples, but not merely comedic relief.

At any rate, Jackson's Dwarves are certainly not what I picture when reading Thorin's final words, or of Gimli's great awe for Galadriel.

William Cloud Hicklin · 09-21-2023, 10:08 AM

The script blunders within the first 60 seconds: "Nine rings were gifted <gag!> to the race of Men, who above all else desire power." Malarkey! Purest rubbish! Cliche replacing Tolkien's own rather subtle thought!

Tolkien said, on many occasions and in many ways, that what Men desire above all else is immortality. He described the basic theme of LR as "Death, and the quest for Deathlessness." The Nine Rings and the Nazgul themselves are tied up in that! (Not to mention Numenor, and the Dead of Dunharrow, and and and....)

05-30-2002, 08:33 AM	#42
Aosama, the Wandering Star Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle-Earth Posts: 210	I guess what annoyed me most was the transition from Gandalf's line in the book, "Keep it secret, and keep it safe!" to the movie, "Is it secret? Is it safe?" <BR>I know it's just changing some punctuation, but the first is the book Gandalf: very much in control, a little comanding, authoritative; but, in this one line, Gandalf is changed into something much weaker, which shouldn't happen until he talks with the mouth of sauron. Yes, I know they're trying to make his comeback more dramatic, but still... it gets on my nerves to see Gandalf somewhat belittled, if only for a second or two of a three-hour movie (Ian McKellen was great, it's the script I had a problem with).

05-30-2002, 01:18 PM	#43
Rosseiliantiel Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hopelessly lost Posts: 178	They workied to hard trying to make the movie funny: LEAVE IT BE! if it ain't broke don't fix it. 'Let's hunt some orc': urghle i almsot threw up.<BR>'If you him, come adn claim him':I started cracking up...but i don't think that was sposed to b funny...<BR>'nobody tosses a dwarf': hahahaha. i dont generally make jokes when im about to die & am trying to uphold my dignity at the same time, but maybe thats just me <P>but other then that, it was th ebest mmovie of alll time __________________ Whatever floats your oyster.

05-30-2002, 05:42 PM	#44
cookie_crazy Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 51	I do admit that some were quite annoying but on ting is that no combined weight of a man and a hobbit could have ipped that giant stone piece of bridge. Peter Jackson should have rewritten this movie several more times __________________ Every day is a brand new day, forget your past, look to the future, live life to the full.

05-31-2002, 01:47 PM	#45
Saxony Tarn Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: a western shore Posts: 132	WHAT -- ??!!<BR>"A Ranger caught off his guard?" was one of the funniest comic-relief lines in that whole flick! i have been known to spout that if they wrote Arwen's role that way JUST TO USE THAT LINE i say heartily "more power to 'em" - - - and i can't wait to see what lines they hand Eowyn later on...<P>"8 there are yet 9 there were" though, i am in utter agreement on -- how does the author of that one fanfic "review by Glorfindel & Bombadil" put it, "Celeborn tries so hard to look like he wears the trousers in this one and fails miserably" ?? (doubly sad as it's the only line he gets. Take 459 on that one, please)<P>s.t.<BR>\|_\|) <-- it comes in pints, and this one's for you, Pippin! __________________ <-- who, me? Take the Ring? Betray the Fellowship?? Nah -- couldn't be ME, i'm too cute...

05-31-2002, 02:19 PM	#46
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,473	Yes: The last line by Aragorn was... errr... how do I put this delicately...BAD. LOL.<P>It was all good until that point. Except the Wizard's dual...that was a bit lacking. It would have been more amusing if...well: it would have been a lot better if they used actual fighting instead of throwing each other around...fire of some sort, etc. (Hey! Gandalf is keeper of that ring, after all!) Haha...I was joking with a friend: it would have been better with machetes than how it was. But: that was another part I didn't really like.<P>Aragorn was, in general, a bit too... American in the movie. Just the lines he had. I don't mind that Viggo HAD an American accent, I just wanted the character to be more...oh...Rangerly, I guess.<P>Maybe he'll be better in TTT (Oh! BTW: If any of you have the stomach for MTV: they're doing a little "Behind the Scenes" 5 minute pre-recorded thing on TTT during the "MTV Movie Awards" on Thursday. The show starts at 9:00 p.m. and LotR is up for about...6 or 7 awards (there are only about 11 awards, really...maybe 13)). __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

05-30-2002, 04:59 AM	#41
Bramblerose Gamgee-Took Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bywater Posts: 67	Sorry, this is a bit off topic, but YAY! I AM A WIGHT!!

07-04-2023, 10:19 PM	#47
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 606	Annoying Movie Lines Annoying movie lines? As the dears and decades roll on, more and more things annoy me about the PJ fanfics. it is generally with the overall screenplay, and I have to laugh when I see PJ movie LotR lovers being so crit on Rings of Power. Anyway, the three movie lines that still bug me the most: "A Ranger caught off his guard?" "Let's hunt some orc." "Go home Sam." I could go on and on about these movies...

07-05-2023, 02:37 AM	#48
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,785	"A chance for Faramir, captain of Gondor, to show his quality." [Immediately kidnaps the Ringbearer, drags him halfway to Minas Tirith, drops him in the middle of a siege and puts him directly in front of a Nazgul] No, Faramir! Bad! That's not what that line is supposed to mean. After all these years, my overall view of the Movies is pretty much unchanged: while I enjoy nitpicking all of them, FotR was actually incredible, RotK was at least a visual feast, and TTT was an utter shambles that smashed plot and sanity to pieces every time it got near a battle sequence. hS __________________ Have you burned the ships that could bear you back again? ~Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-05-2023, 10:55 AM	#49
Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,528	The whinging Elrond portrayal in the films capped by the peevish, "Our list of allies growns thin." So many stomach-churning misportrayals in Jackson's debacles, but one would think that a being such as Elrond, who at this point in ME history is roughly 6,437 years old, would have better control of his emotions. Then, of course, there is Elrond's equally miserable "Arwen is dying" nonsense. __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

07-05-2023, 10:59 AM	#50
Alassë Estel Wight Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: Treading the Narrow Way Posts: 178	The line that irritates me the most occurs after The Battle of Pelenor Fields, when The King of The Dead, and the army of The Dead, have assembled to be freed from their living death and for their oaths to be held fulfilled. The King of The Dead says: "Release us!" Then Gimli says: "Bad idea! Very handy in a tight spot, these lads...despite the fact they're dead." Which leaves us to assume that Gimli was suggesting that Aragorn should have gone back on his word and do precisely what got all those ghosts in that mess in the first place. Book-Gimli certainly would never have suggested such a thing. __________________ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

09-20-2023, 08:22 PM	#51
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,313	Alasse, you picked a good (or bad) one. Gimli got stuck with a lot of bad lines. “Toss me” leaps to mind. Then there’s his burp in Edoras. I’m sure there are more. It seems that Jackson generally used Dwarves as comic relief. The Hobbit movies were even worse. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

09-21-2023, 07:51 AM	#52
Alassë Estel Wight Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: Treading the Narrow Way Posts: 178	Yes, I quite agree. While I give the Hobbit movies more credit than many, I find it rather appalling just how discourteous and oafish the Dwarves were portrayed to be. I think, Tolkien's Dwarves are "less refined" in a way perhaps, as compared to other peoples, but not merely comedic relief. At any rate, Jackson's Dwarves are certainly not what I picture when reading Thorin's final words, or of Gimli's great awe for Galadriel. __________________ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

09-21-2023, 10:08 AM	#53
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,301	The script blunders within the first 60 seconds: "Nine rings were gifted <gag!> to the race of Men, who above all else desire power." Malarkey! Purest rubbish! Cliche replacing Tolkien's own rather subtle thought! Tolkien said, on many occasions and in many ways, that what Men desire above all else is immortality. He described the basic theme of LR as "Death, and the quest for Deathlessness." The Nine Rings and the Nazgul themselves are tied up in that! (Not to mention Numenor, and the Dead of Dunharrow, and and and....) __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.