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Findegil · 08-25-2021, 06:06 AM

CE-EX-28.4: Okay, so we propose {Vorotemnar}[Voronutalë] and {Ilterendi}[Laterendi]. Let's see if Aiwendil does agree to this.

Respectfully
Findegil

Aiwendil · 09-24-2021, 08:36 PM

Just wanted to pop in and say I'm reading through the latest discussion and writing some comments. Sorry, once again, for my tardiness. I hope to be able to get on with this next week.

ArcusCalion · 10-08-2021, 01:43 PM

Just popping in to say that there's a lot of new material to consider for this chapter from the Nature of Middle-earth book which was published last month. I wanted to ask everyone's opinions: should we hold off on any additions/changes stemming from that book until we've all come to an agreement on what we have so far? I feel like we should settle our central debates before introducing more, but if we think it's fine I could propose some inclusions and changes based on the new material.

Findegil · 10-09-2021, 11:03 AM

Aiwendil, what do you think about ArcusCalions question?

I have learned in some older cases that to hold any impulse for posting in this project back has always done more harm than good. But that is only my oppinion.

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Findegil

Aiwendil · 10-09-2021, 04:30 PM

Yeah, I expect we're going to have some interesting discussions about a lot of the new material, and I don't see much point in holding those back. (As a matter of fact, reading and thinking about that book have already rather distracted me from the response I was working on here, for which I apologize!)

My personal opinion at this point is that the large corpus of new material from part I of that book is, in the end, not actually going to have a huge impact on the project, but naturally I expect rather a vigorous debate on that subject! At any rate, I do still intend to lay out my thoughts on the latest proposal here, but I don't see any reason that couldn't happen in parallel with the other discussion.

gondowe · 10-10-2021, 07:52 AM

Hi there. I would propose to try in another thread the making of a new Yenonotie with the additions of NoME if they can be taken into account. And then try to incorporate them into the text. In order to be as faithful as possible to the narrative sequence.

ArcusCalion · 10-11-2021, 06:13 AM

Gondowe, I actually have made a draft of a 'Yenonotie' style work combining several of the 'time' related texts from NoME and HoME. I can post that at some point, but it was not actually as difficult as might be thought once a thorough understanding of the texts, their history, and the applications to the legendarium are considered.

gondowe · 10-13-2021, 08:07 AM

Hi Arcus. I also started a Yenonotie but I see that adapting to the new situation is very difficult. Seeing that Aiwendil opened a new thread about this we talked there.

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gondowe Wight Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 217	Hi there. I would propose to try in another thread the making of a new Yenonotie with the additions of NoME if they can be taken into account. And then try to incorporate them into the text. In order to be as faithful as possible to the narrative sequence. Last edited by gondowe; 10-10-2021 at 07:57 AM.

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08-25-2021, 06:06 AM	#81
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,605	CE-EX-28.4: Okay, so we propose {Vorotemnar}[Voronutalë] and {Ilterendi}[Laterendi]. Let's see if Aiwendil does agree to this. Respectfully Findegil

09-24-2021, 08:36 PM	#82
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,184	Just wanted to pop in and say I'm reading through the latest discussion and writing some comments. Sorry, once again, for my tardiness. I hope to be able to get on with this next week.

10-08-2021, 01:43 PM	#83
ArcusCalion Quentingolmo Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 515	Just popping in to say that there's a lot of new material to consider for this chapter from the Nature of Middle-earth book which was published last month. I wanted to ask everyone's opinions: should we hold off on any additions/changes stemming from that book until we've all come to an agreement on what we have so far? I feel like we should settle our central debates before introducing more, but if we think it's fine I could propose some inclusions and changes based on the new material.

10-09-2021, 11:03 AM	#84
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,605	Aiwendil, what do you think about ArcusCalions question? I have learned in some older cases that to hold any impulse for posting in this project back has always done more harm than good. But that is only my oppinion. Respectfully Findegil

10-09-2021, 04:30 PM	#85
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,184	Yeah, I expect we're going to have some interesting discussions about a lot of the new material, and I don't see much point in holding those back. (As a matter of fact, reading and thinking about that book have already rather distracted me from the response I was working on here, for which I apologize!) My personal opinion at this point is that the large corpus of new material from part I of that book is, in the end, not actually going to have a huge impact on the project, but naturally I expect rather a vigorous debate on that subject! At any rate, I do still intend to lay out my thoughts on the latest proposal here, but I don't see any reason that couldn't happen in parallel with the other discussion.

10-11-2021, 06:13 AM	#87
ArcusCalion Quentingolmo Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 515	Gondowe, I actually have made a draft of a 'Yenonotie' style work combining several of the 'time' related texts from NoME and HoME. I can post that at some point, but it was not actually as difficult as might be thought once a thorough understanding of the texts, their history, and the applications to the legendarium are considered.

10-13-2021, 08:07 AM	#88
gondowe Wight Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 217	Hi Arcus. I also started a Yenonotie but I see that adapting to the new situation is very difficult. Seeing that Aiwendil opened a new thread about this we talked there.