Admin Thread for WW LXXVIII: Yar Har Har and a Bottle o' Rum - Page 2 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Blind Guardian · 06-28-2010, 05:47 PM

Wrong!!

Can our lovely mod at least put our names in a hat (with one extra) so we can see what our rolls are :P

And I'm Queen of Stealing Pages :P 8)

satansaloser2005 · 06-28-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

I can create another account! So if I get lynched one Day one its not a big deal!

Erm....you are kidding, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Wrong!!

Can our lovely mod at least put our names in a hat (with one extra) so we can see what our rolls are :P

And I'm Queen of Stealing Pages :P 8)

That won't work because if person 12 is a wolf they won't have the ability to talk to their fellows as long. It wouldn't be fair.

Dear, you really can wait until someone else joins. I know it seems hard, but the wait won't kill you. Besides, I have faith in Paranoia that as soon as he gets another person he'll send out all the roles.

Also, can you PLEASE kill someone by stuffing them full of poisoned rolls? You'll seriously make my day (or Day, as the case may be).

satansaloser2005 · 06-28-2010, 06:30 PM

What is it with pirate-themed games when Sally's away at camp?

Blind Guardian · 06-28-2010, 08:04 PM

Yeah I was joking

no I meant just so we know what our rules are so we can ask questions if we are confused. If the 12th person is say wolf number three they are wolf number three. Either way we wait.

Rikae · 06-28-2010, 08:23 PM

Just get your wife to play, then, Pitch!

++Wifewife

Inziladun · 06-28-2010, 09:33 PM

I've been trying to get my wife to join up here for years: nothing doing.

autume98 · 06-29-2010, 02:08 PM

Sign me up! Sounds like a lot of fun.

Blind Guardian · 06-29-2010, 02:13 PM

YES! lets start!

Eönwë · 06-29-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

YES! lets start!

I think ye be meanin':

Ahoy! Let us set sail!

Paranoia · 06-29-2010, 04:12 PM

Heh. Roles will then be going out soon; wolves expect your PMs first along with the first bit o' story. i.e. SIGNUPS ARE CLOOOOOOOOSED.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-29-2010, 09:48 PM

Boo, I got back just a smidge too late.

Paranoia · 06-29-2010, 10:13 PM

Actually... I haven't sent roles out yet, so I might be lying. I'll squeeze you in. <_<

Paranoia · 06-29-2010, 10:53 PM

Further FYI; roles WILL NOT GO OUT until 1:00 AM CST.

Paranoia · 06-29-2010, 11:56 PM

Roles are going out; reply back to me as soon as you've gotten yours.

Paranoia · 06-30-2010, 02:49 AM

All roles are out. If you did not get one, you are an ordo.

Also, the first bit of narration will be up later today. Night Zero ends at 1:00 A.M. CST.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-30-2010, 12:26 PM

Woo, thanks Noia.

Glirdan · 07-01-2010, 10:06 AM

Just to forewarn everyone that I may not be around much till closer to the end of the Day. It's Canada Day (YAY!!

) and I've got plans pretty much all day so don't expect too much from me.

Pitchwife · 07-01-2010, 01:35 PM

Oy, Rikae an' Nerwen, ye wenches, lay off a-slanderin' me missus! Jus' me bein' on shore leave dinna mean I canna hear what the wind's a-whisperin'! Ye're jus' jealous is what ye be!

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Just get your wife to play, then, Pitch!
++Wifewife

I'm working on it. She likes her new nickname btw, maybe that's a start.

Boromir88 · 07-02-2010, 05:59 AM

So this one time I have been occupied with a ton of work, and not having time to get on-line to check the 'Downs in about a week. Which led me to forgetting I even signed up for a WW game a while ago, and led me to forgetting that it was possibly starting soon. My bad and apologies Paranoia.

I can still play (certainly more than I managed on Day 1

), but work schedule will wipe out half of my day (and I've got a busy holiday weekend).

satansaloser2005 · 07-02-2010, 06:40 AM

++Wifewife (for Downership!)

If she ever actually joins with that username I may fly there and hug her.

Morsul the Dark · 07-02-2010, 10:29 AM

I'm going to be in Boston Tomorrow so I probably won't be able to post until Late into the day.

Paranoia · 07-02-2010, 10:10 PM

woops. Kinda fell asleep on my end for a bit. <_< Busy day and dead tired at phase change... so the narrations'll probably be up in an hour or two of each other. x_x

Note to Boromir: Accepted. XD And don't worry too much; we all forget things sometimes. Just don't make it a habit.

Nerwen · 07-02-2010, 10:12 PM

I'll probably be able to post no more than once or twice toMorrow as I'm currently visiting my family for the weekend, and I have to go into town to use the internet. Just letting you know.

Blind Guardian · 07-02-2010, 10:20 PM

I think Monday is a night phrase but: our ac is about to crap out on us and our fridge isn't working right. At the moment we have a appointment for them to keep it 24 hours. We might have to stay in a hotel or they might let us stay in the RV with electric to their building. We have Internet on the computer but not on iPod, which I have used for the last two games. So I might not be on or I might not vote.

Paranoia · 07-03-2010, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I'll probably be able to post no more than once or twice toMorrow as I'm currently visiting my family for the weekend, and I have to go into town to use the internet. Just letting you know.

Alright; if you don't happen to vote today, it won't be held against you as per what the rules state.

Same to BG regarding monday, which unfortunately is a day phase.

Glirdan · 07-03-2010, 08:13 AM

So I myself may have to vote early due to Birthday parties, bonfires, and family visitations all in one day, so please do not hold it against me.

Glirdan · 07-04-2010, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noia

Watch this space like a hawk.

Have been since I stepped through my door

Morsul the Dark · 07-04-2010, 06:02 AM

Umm... there was a tie... so who was out?

wilwarin538 · 07-04-2010, 06:51 AM

and a note Para, it's usually customary that votes that come in on the DL count, and ones a minute after don't. Like if the DL is 1:00, then a vote at 1:00 counts, but at 1:01 it doesn't. So Mac's vote should count.

Macalaure · 07-04-2010, 07:28 AM

Hmm... we know that the lynched one is an ordo, but we don't know who it was. That is somewhat dissatisfying.

And, as Wilwa said, if the deadline is 1am, then a vote at 1am is at the deadline, not after it, and the vote should count. If you do it differently (which would be ok, of course), you should have clarified it in the rules.

Paranoia · 07-04-2010, 10:51 AM

Actually that should be noted; I usually DO NOT accept votes at deadline. I accept them all the way *UP* to deadline. As soon as deadline hits, it's a lynch, and voting is no longer allowed.

Rikae · 07-04-2010, 01:01 PM

Yes, that should have been noted before you started the game, Paranoia.

It also should have been noted that you considered it acceptable to PM players with the roles of other players who had neither been lynched nor been targeted by any gifted ability. Did you think I would be happy to hear a certain person's role? Certainly not. My sense of fair play is just as offended when I'm the one being given an unfair advantage as when I'm the wronged party.

I don't need your advice on how to play this game. I've been playing it for quite some time, you know, and I've been in pretty much every imaginable situation. I do, however, expect a mod to play fair - and that means being upfront about the rules from the beginning and abiding by them. Your little twist concerning the cobbler, mentioned in your PM to me, is another thing that should have been mentioned from the beginning.

I apologize to the other players, but I will have to withdraw from this game as it is not being run fairly.

Nerwen · 07-04-2010, 09:57 PM

Wasn't able to get on the net at all, as it turned out.

I'll be all right toMorrow... except that I am now very confused as to what's going on.

Macalaure · 07-05-2010, 05:46 AM

What exactly is going on right now?

We still don't know for certain who has been lynched. We have a dropout with all kinds of behind-the-scenes stuff going on. A day that didn't start. Did I miss something?

Mod?

Boromir88 · 07-05-2010, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikae

I apologize to the other players, but I will have to withdraw from this game as it is not being run fairly.

No need to apologize, I don't appreciate that kind of tinkering with the game play either. Mods need to be like good football refs and that is, be invisible. Sorry, but I'm out too.

Macalaure · 07-05-2010, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boro

Mods need to be like good football refs and that is, be invisible.

Right now, our mod is a bit too invisible.

I lost a lot of my motivation about this game, too, but I was going to wait for the mod to handle the situation and not drop out yet. But with the way things are progressing (or rather, not progressing), I don't see much point anymore. Out, too.

Shall we just call it a day and abort the game in the mod's absence?

Nerwen · 07-05-2010, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac

Shall we just call it a day and abort the game in the mod's absence?

I'd rather we didn't. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Para has been influenced somewhat by the way I ran "Metamorphs" recently: I tinkered a bit with that, e.g. adding a "no gifted-reveal" rule after Day One had started. That was just in the interest of balance, mind you; telling a player another player's role just out of the blue is a bit different...

Look, Para, I'd certainly appreciate some idea of when we're to start the Day, and of who got lynched yesterDay. Even if someone's an ordo, as it seems er... Glirsul was, it can be useful to read his posts in that light.

Inziladun · 07-05-2010, 07:51 AM

Very strange goings on here. I hope nothing has happened to Paranoia. It's odd that there are so many loose ends left dangling like this, and no reaction from Paranoia about all the drama here on the Admin Thread.

Nerwen · 07-05-2010, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Very strange goings on here. I hope nothing has happened to Paranoia. It's odd that there are so many loose ends left dangling like this, and no reaction from Paranoia about all the drama here on the Admin Thread.

Well, the usual thing that happens to people is that their internet connection goes on the blink... but there might be some other reason, too. Either way, I think it might be an idea for people to give him a bit longer before abandoning ship.

Rikae · 07-05-2010, 08:09 AM

Well, at any rate, Nerwen, I think one crucial difference is that the tinkering you did in your game was out in the open for all players to see.

What happened here was that I complained by PM to Paranoia about the way he did the narration, which I thought already broke a few unspoken "rules" of BD WW, and he responded with encouragement not to give up and the revelation of a certain gifted's role (\not even a confirmation of a guess I made or anything, but new information altogether). He also revealed that he had been planning to treat the cobbler role differently than expected without mentioning it - not cool in my book, since the village couldn't take this into consideration.

So clearly I couldn't keep playing with this additional unearned knowledge - any victory would be stripped of all honor. It's a shame, since I was quite enjoying this game and I hate to let my team down, but without a level playing field (or an uneven playing field everyone knows about) there can't be a real game.

Someone (who can step forward if/when they like) mentioned to me that we should have a minimum number of games a person must play before being allowed to be a mod, and I think this is an excellent idea. We have a sort of culture that has evolved around Barrowdowns werewolf: some rules are understood to be the norm, and when a mod changes them, xe should know that this needs to be pointed out to the players, etc. A mod has a responsibility to the players, and most mods around here take that seriously (even ones who, like Nerwen and Fea, have a few surprises up their sleeves tend to do so in a way that is fair to the players and their contributions to the game). We seem to have a very complex process for getting started in the RPGs, and though I'm not suggesting something that extreme is needed here, a games-played requirement for modship sounds reasonable to me.

06-28-2010, 06:30 PM	#43
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,798	What is it with pirate-themed games when Sally's away at camp? __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

06-28-2010, 09:33 PM	#46
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,046	I've been trying to get my wife to join up here for years: nothing doing. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

06-29-2010, 02:08 PM	#47
autume98 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The other side of the fish bowl Posts: 267	Sign me up! Sounds like a lot of fun. __________________ The only thing to expect is the unexpected.

06-29-2010, 09:48 PM	#51
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Boo, I got back just a smidge too late. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

06-30-2010, 12:26 PM	#56
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Woo, thanks Noia. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

06-28-2010, 08:23 PM	#45
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,499	Just get your wife to play, then, Pitch! ++Wifewife

06-29-2010, 04:12 PM	#50
Paranoia Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 86	Heh. Roles will then be going out soon; wolves expect your PMs first along with the first bit o' story. i.e. SIGNUPS ARE CLOOOOOOOOSED.

06-29-2010, 10:13 PM	#52
Paranoia Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 86	Actually... I haven't sent roles out yet, so I might be lying. I'll squeeze you in. <_<

06-29-2010, 10:53 PM	#53
Paranoia Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 86	Further FYI; roles WILL NOT GO OUT until 1:00 AM CST.

06-29-2010, 11:56 PM	#54
Paranoia Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 86	Roles are going out; reply back to me as soon as you've gotten yours.

06-30-2010, 02:49 AM	#55
Paranoia Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 86	All roles are out. If you did not get one, you are an ordo. Also, the first bit of narration will be up later today. Night Zero ends at 1:00 A.M. CST.

07-01-2010, 10:06 AM	#57
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,321	Just to forewarn everyone that I may not be around much till closer to the end of the Day. It's Canada Day (YAY!! ) and I've got plans pretty much all day so don't expect too much from me. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

07-02-2010, 05:59 AM	#59
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,511	So this one time I have been occupied with a ton of work, and not having time to get on-line to check the 'Downs in about a week. Which led me to forgetting I even signed up for a WW game a while ago, and led me to forgetting that it was possibly starting soon. My bad and apologies Paranoia. I can still play (certainly more than I managed on Day 1 ), but work schedule will wipe out half of my day (and I've got a busy holiday weekend). __________________ Fenris Penguin

07-02-2010, 06:40 AM	#60
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,798	++Wifewife (for Downership!) If she ever actually joins with that username I may fly there and hug her. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

07-02-2010, 10:29 AM	#61
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,492	I'm going to be in Boston Tomorrow so I probably won't be able to post until Late into the day.

07-02-2010, 10:10 PM	#62
Paranoia Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 86	woops. Kinda fell asleep on my end for a bit. <_< Busy day and dead tired at phase change... so the narrations'll probably be up in an hour or two of each other. x_x Note to Boromir: Accepted. XD And don't worry too much; we all forget things sometimes. Just don't make it a habit.

07-02-2010, 10:12 PM	#63
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	I'll probably be able to post no more than once or twice toMorrow as I'm currently visiting my family for the weekend, and I have to go into town to use the internet. Just letting you know. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

07-03-2010, 08:13 AM	#66
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,321	So I myself may have to vote early due to Birthday parties, bonfires, and family visitations all in one day, so please do not hold it against me. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

07-04-2010, 06:02 AM	#68
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,492	Umm... there was a tie... so who was out?

07-04-2010, 06:51 AM	#69
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,533	and a note Para, it's usually customary that votes that come in on the DL count, and ones a minute after don't. Like if the DL is 1:00, then a vote at 1:00 counts, but at 1:01 it doesn't. So Mac's vote should count. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

07-04-2010, 07:28 AM	#70
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,921	Hmm... we know that the lynched one is an ordo, but we don't know who it was. That is somewhat dissatisfying. And, as Wilwa said, if the deadline is 1am, then a vote at 1am is at the deadline, not after it, and the vote should count. If you do it differently (which would be ok, of course), you should have clarified it in the rules.

07-04-2010, 10:51 AM	#71
Paranoia Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 86	Actually that should be noted; I usually DO NOT accept votes at deadline. I accept them all the way UP to deadline. As soon as deadline hits, it's a lynch, and voting is no longer allowed.

07-04-2010, 01:01 PM	#72
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,499	Yes, that should have been noted before you started the game, Paranoia. It also should have been noted that you considered it acceptable to PM players with the roles of other players who had neither been lynched nor been targeted by any gifted ability. Did you think I would be happy to hear a certain person's role? Certainly not. My sense of fair play is just as offended when I'm the one being given an unfair advantage as when I'm the wronged party. I don't need your advice on how to play this game. I've been playing it for quite some time, you know, and I've been in pretty much every imaginable situation. I do, however, expect a mod to play fair - and that means being upfront about the rules from the beginning and abiding by them. Your little twist concerning the cobbler, mentioned in your PM to me, is another thing that should have been mentioned from the beginning. I apologize to the other players, but I will have to withdraw from this game as it is not being run fairly.

07-04-2010, 09:57 PM	#73
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,695	Wasn't able to get on the net at all, as it turned out. I'll be all right toMorrow... except that I am now very confused as to what's going on. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo. Last edited by Nerwen; 07-05-2010 at 03:33 AM. Reason: typo

07-05-2010, 05:46 AM	#74
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,921	What exactly is going on right now? We still don't know for certain who has been lynched. We have a dropout with all kinds of behind-the-scenes stuff going on. A day that didn't start. Did I miss something? Mod?

07-05-2010, 07:51 AM	#78
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,046	Very strange goings on here. I hope nothing has happened to Paranoia. It's odd that there are so many loose ends left dangling like this, and no reaction from Paranoia about all the drama here on the Admin Thread. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

07-05-2010, 08:09 AM	#80
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,499	Well, at any rate, Nerwen, I think one crucial difference is that the tinkering you did in your game was out in the open for all players to see. What happened here was that I complained by PM to Paranoia about the way he did the narration, which I thought already broke a few unspoken "rules" of BD WW, and he responded with encouragement not to give up and the revelation of a certain gifted's role (\not even a confirmation of a guess I made or anything, but new information altogether). He also revealed that he had been planning to treat the cobbler role differently than expected without mentioning it - not cool in my book, since the village couldn't take this into consideration. So clearly I couldn't keep playing with this additional unearned knowledge - any victory would be stripped of all honor. It's a shame, since I was quite enjoying this game and I hate to let my team down, but without a level playing field (or an uneven playing field everyone knows about) there can't be a real game. Someone (who can step forward if/when they like) mentioned to me that we should have a minimum number of games a person must play before being allowed to be a mod, and I think this is an excellent idea. We have a sort of culture that has evolved around Barrowdowns werewolf: some rules are understood to be the norm, and when a mod changes them, xe should know that this needs to be pointed out to the players, etc. A mod has a responsibility to the players, and most mods around here take that seriously (even ones who, like Nerwen and Fea, have a few surprises up their sleeves tend to do so in a way that is fair to the players and their contributions to the game). We seem to have a very complex process for getting started in the RPGs, and though I'm not suggesting something that extreme is needed here, a games-played requirement for modship sounds reasonable to me.