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quam · 09-09-2000, 08:46 AM

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What does Tharbad(and Enedwaith and Minhiriath)mean on the map of ME.Was it a city of Men,Elves or Dwarfs,and why is it never mentioned in LoTR or Silma?Was it destroyed?If so,why?
Anyone?

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burrahobbit · 09-09-2000, 09:50 AM

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Re: Tharbad

Tharbad was a river-port town where the North-South road crossed the river Gwathlo, ruined and deserted at the time of the War of the Ring. It is mentioned three times in LotR and many more in UT. The best that I can tell from my hasty research is that it was a mannish city.

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***The Barrow-Wight*** · 09-09-2000, 10:09 AM

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Re: Tharbad

Tharbad was a harbor built by the Numenoreans. It was used by them for Millenia as they plundered the ancient forests of Eriador for lumber for their great fleets. It was destroyed by great floods and abandoned.

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quam · 09-09-2000, 10:31 AM

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Re: Tharbad

So that's how the Old Forest was separated from Fangorn!
Hmm,better buy those Unfinished Tales,coz there probably will be other answers to some of the questions I've never been able to answer.
P.S.Does anyone know if UT was also translated in Dutch,coz I wouldn't want to read it completely in English.

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Saulotus · 09-09-2000, 01:51 PM

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Re: Tharbad

Tharbad is mentioned in LOTR. Yuppers, city it was, of the Numenoreans originally, then used by Cardolan.

Enedhwaith is a regional name, as is Minhiriath.

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Arvedui · 05-04-2003, 11:40 PM

Tharbad's nearness to the elven realm in Eregion and also the main crossing of the river Gwathlo made it a great city in the second age. Didn't Sauron attack this city when he made war on Eregion?

Hans Markus Rod · 05-05-2003, 07:36 AM

Tharbad was a port built by Numenorean explorers. It was founded by the mariner Aldarion who travelled several journys to Middle-Earth. at the time of the War of The Ring it was ruined and deserted.

Arvedui · 05-05-2003, 10:27 AM

Yes, good background on Tharbad. I see Tharbad as an axis of trade between Numenor and the Elves of House Mírdain in Ost-in-Edhil, which was about 25 leagues to the east, and Moria gate was roughly 70 leagues further up the Sirannon river. What I find is Tharbad was destroyed by floods in the Third Age. Was not Tharbad attacked by Sauron when he waged war on Eregion and destroyed Ost-in-Edhil? I would so potential reinforcements could not land to the rear of the armies attacking Eregion. The Noldor did call on Numenor for aid, and Tar-Minastir sent an army that routed Sauron in Eregion, but I believe they landed in the Gulf of Lune. I'll have to look deeper into this.

09-09-2000, 08:46 AM	#1
quam Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 76	Tharbad <font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> What does Tharbad(and Enedwaith and Minhiriath)mean on the map of ME.Was it a city of Men,Elves or Dwarfs,and why is it never mentioned in LoTR or Silma?Was it destroyed?If so,why? Anyone? My tolkien favorites are <a href="http://www.tolkientrail.com/"target="web">the Tolkientrail</A>(michael martinez loved it!), http://www.barrowdowns.com/The Barrow-downs</A> and its http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/forum</a> and http://pub24.ezboard.com/bmountgundabad/Mount Gundabad</A> "Quis,Quae,Quid Quem,Quam,Quid" </p>

09-09-2000, 09:50 AM	#2
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hidden Spirit Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Tharbad Tharbad was a river-port town where the North-South road crossed the river Gwathlo, ruined and deserted at the time of the War of the Ring. It is mentioned three times in LotR and many more in UT. The best that I can tell from my hasty research is that it was a mannish city. What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?</p> __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

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*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wraith of Angmar Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Tharbad Tharbad was a harbor built by the Numenoreans. It was used by them for Millenia as they plundered the ancient forests of Eriador for lumber for their great fleets. It was destroyed by great floods and abandoned. The Barrow-Wight (RKittle) <font size="2">I usually haunt http://www.barrowdowns.comThe Barrow-Downs</a> and The Barrow-Downs http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiMiddle-Earth Discussion Board</a>.</p> __________________ The Barrow-Wight

05-04-2003, 11:40 PM	#6
Arvedui Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Annúminas Posts: 56	Tharbad's nearness to the elven realm in Eregion and also the main crossing of the river Gwathlo made it a great city in the second age. Didn't Sauron attack this city when he made war on Eregion? __________________ When Elendil fell, Isildur departed to take up the high kingship of his father, and committed the rule of the south in like manner to the son of his brother. He did not relinquish his royalty in Gondor, nor intend that the realm of Elendil should be divided forever.

05-05-2003, 07:36 AM	#7
Hans Markus Rod Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Asker Posts: 23	Tharbad was a port built by Numenorean explorers. It was founded by the mariner Aldarion who travelled several journys to Middle-Earth. at the time of the War of The Ring it was ruined and deserted. __________________ 'In this bloody dawn I will wash my sword, to call the spirit of vengeance, to deny my wisdom for anger, to break the scream of the silent foe and to be the Son of Doom.'

09-09-2000, 10:31 AM	#4
quam Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 76	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Tharbad So that's how the Old Forest was separated from Fangorn! Hmm,better buy those Unfinished Tales,coz there probably will be other answers to some of the questions I've never been able to answer. P.S.Does anyone know if UT was also translated in Dutch,coz I wouldn't want to read it completely in English. My tolkien favorites are <a href="http://www.tolkientrail.com/"target="web">the Tolkientrail</A>(michael martinez loved it!), http://www.barrowdowns.com/The Barrow-downs</A> and its http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/forum</a> and http://pub24.ezboard.com/bmountgundabad/Mount Gundabad</A> "Quis,Quae,Quid Quem,Quam,Quid" </p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000053>quam</A> at: 9/9/00 12:34:22 pm

09-09-2000, 01:51 PM	#5
Saulotus Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 346	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pile o' Bones Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Tharbad Tharbad is mentioned in LOTR. Yuppers, city it was, of the Numenoreans originally, then used by Cardolan. Enedhwaith is a regional name, as is Minhiriath. </p>

05-05-2003, 10:27 AM	#8
Arvedui Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Annúminas Posts: 56	Yes, good background on Tharbad. I see Tharbad as an axis of trade between Numenor and the Elves of House Mírdain in Ost-in-Edhil, which was about 25 leagues to the east, and Moria gate was roughly 70 leagues further up the Sirannon river. What I find is Tharbad was destroyed by floods in the Third Age. Was not Tharbad attacked by Sauron when he waged war on Eregion and destroyed Ost-in-Edhil? I would so potential reinforcements could not land to the rear of the armies attacking Eregion. The Noldor did call on Numenor for aid, and Tar-Minastir sent an army that routed Sauron in Eregion, but I believe they landed in the Gulf of Lune. I'll have to look deeper into this. __________________ When Elendil fell, Isildur departed to take up the high kingship of his father, and committed the rule of the south in like manner to the son of his brother. He did not relinquish his royalty in Gondor, nor intend that the realm of Elendil should be divided forever.