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Old 03-03-2006, 10:39 AM   #121
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Old 03-03-2006, 10:47 AM   #122
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Elrond will be next, directly or indirectly.
Don't worry, Anguirel- Elrond will not be next. I will save him, and any other of the Noldor who comes under attack.

Except Galadriel. I don't like her much.
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Old 03-03-2006, 10:53 AM   #123
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The Noldor are now indeed Doomed...

I'll repair the damage.

I'll, er, defend the Elendili with every breath in my body. And you can quote me on that...
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Old 03-03-2006, 12:41 PM   #124
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Old 03-03-2006, 08:42 PM   #125
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As the Fourth day of voting drew to an end, it was clear that there was no one, single bandwaggon prevalent. The final distribution of votes is as follows:

Celebrimbor: I
Fuinur: I

Elrond: II

Amdír: IIII
Herumor: IIII

Once again, a King is killed- albeit, since it's Amdír, it's hardly a huge loss. One could almost make the case that since Herumor appears in the Silmarillion, while Amdír only made Unfinished Tales, Herumor is the greater loss.

Either way, they're both gone.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Noldor:
Ereinion Gil-galad,
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor
Glorfindel

Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Celebrían

Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Erendis
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Isildur
Anárion
Ohtar

Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil

Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl
Fuinur

Day 5 begins now! The only tribes untouched are the Noldor and the Elendili- the tribes the Phantom and Anguirel have respectively sworn to protect, interestingly enough. Vote away as you please.
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Old 03-03-2006, 10:13 PM   #126
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:20 PM   #128
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I pleade to protect the Elendili as well, they are the true champions.

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Old 03-03-2006, 11:38 PM   #129
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Once again, Elu Ancalime, you have voted for Elrond without saying why. Are you going to give a reason?
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:42 PM   #130
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:47 PM   #131
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I ask the same, Phantom.
And once again, you haven't answered my question.

And what do you mean, "I ask the same"? I stated my reasons for supporting Elrond quite clearly on the last page in this post.

So, are you actually going to answer my question at any point, or do you plan on making a meaningless comment every time I ask?
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Old 03-04-2006, 12:27 AM   #132
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I may have hinted at my reasoning, even though what was posted was more light. This comes back to campaign against charactar or campaign for vendetta. The literary character of Elrond Half-Elven has not generated any broad and lasting support throughout these 'sessions of persausion.' If there is not a popularity to defend him, I have the justification to make effort for his removal.

Huh. I think I may have unknowningly compelled myself into the DOOM Factor.
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Old 03-04-2006, 01:45 AM   #133
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Well, since this is now indisputably war, let's have a look at the statistics.

Those treacherously removed by the insidious Alliance of Ultra-Doom

Ar-Pharazon
Tar-Aldarion
Amdir

Those cunningly driven out by the Heroic Resistance of Individual Freethinkers

Thorondor
Durin III
Herumor

Everything lies in the balance still. The fate of Arda Envinyata could go either way...

Let's finish the good we began, albeit half-heartedly, yesterday.

Fuinur is an anagram of RUIN UF (short, I presume, for UFO). So to add to his numerous other crimes, we now know that Fuinur spent his time vandalising the spacecrafts of respectable aliens!

Take him dooown...Heroic Resistance...with me!

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Old 03-04-2006, 01:55 AM   #134
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So, if I understand you correctly, Elu, you are voting for Elrond because in past games he hasn't been popular.

I suppose that is a reason, but it's not what you would call a solid reason.

Reason should matter in this game, wouldn't you agree? If someone has given good solid reasons not to vote for a certain character you should not vote for them unless you have some good solid reasons of your own to combat the defender.

Your reason "I voted for Elrond because he wasn't popular in the last game" is not a solid reason compared to my text-based defense of Elrond, therefore I don't see how can you justify voting for Elrond. A decision like that adds nothing but randomness to the game.

When anyone, without much of a reason, votes for someone who has been very well defended with Tolkien quotes, he is basically saying "I ignore people's arguments." And if you ask me, that sort of thinking makes this entire game pointless. This game should be about arguing, debating, and convincing, not about voting for a character on a whim and refusing to change it despite good arguments from others.
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:02 AM   #135
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Seemingly he couldn't teach his decendents to behave themselves.
This is the most hilariously awry case launched so far today.

I mean, how many of us can teach their descendants to behave themselves? It's quite tricky when you're a corpse...
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:22 AM   #136
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A new season, how lovely!

I feel there's something rotten here. Yes, I'm talking about Glorfindel's decaying remainders. I may not be as well aware of profitable tactics and strategies in this game as the rest of you, but I know one thing: Glorfindel's hardly a survivor.

Just take a look at his achievements:

Well, he managed to take a powder when some baddies came to Gondolin. Very brave. Too bad he got killed by the first enemy that passed his way after it.

Also, he was able to sprout some yellow flowers from his deceased body which itself is a nice trick, but really, do we want to watch how grass slowly grows taller on prime time?

To be fair, it is said that Glorfindel pulled a balrog with him as he fell off a cliff after a fight. But then again, what's so great in a battle that ends in a draw? Now, how did it go... a draw means that no-one wins which means that everybody loses. Great. He's officially a loser. Besides, I have my doubts that he even managed to kill the balrog. You see, unlike the balrog, Glorfindel didn't have wings ( ) and it's a fact that he ended up dead whereas our balrog, well, after some skydiving he probably just fluttered away.

It is also said that without Thorondor, Glorfindel wouldn't have had any chance to beat the enemy he encountered on the mountains (actually, he wasn't able to win even with the eagles). Now that Thorondor has been voted off, I don't see much sense in keeping goldilocks around either. Therefore...

++Glorfindel


Oh, and for those who rely on anagrams when making their decisions on who should leave: Glorfindel = Old elf girn. What do we do with a decrepit complaining chap like him? One of the Noldor or not, I would ask you to consider whether you really want to keep such a wuss around.
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Old 03-04-2006, 06:27 AM   #137
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Now that her not-so-loving-husband's gone you'd think she'd loosen up a bit; but she's still boring. Moaning, complaining, not having fun. I don't want her on the show, and I don't want to read her awful story ever again.

Anagram? Um...ok: DEER SIN I'm not sure what it means but I guarantee it's bad. String her up!
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Old 03-04-2006, 07:20 AM   #138
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I am disappointed that you have sunk to this level. I think it is time someone challenged you, SPM.

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Old 03-04-2006, 08:18 AM   #140
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Actually, I'm considering cutting the apparatchniks and going straight for "Annatar".

It would be a blow to pompous, over-mighty Maiar all over the place...

But I'll only act if sufficient interest is shown.
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Old 03-04-2006, 08:26 AM   #141
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Phantom made me get online just to do this. Not that I mind. I, too, am a big Elrond fan. So to save him...

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You should, and thanks for your help.

Now we will await the other members of the League.
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I would think that after her husband got voted off she'd lighten up. But Noooo!
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Announcer: And we’re back to Second Age Survivor, brought to you by Hack-n-Cough, your cure for the common cold. I’m joined in the booth by Bob…

Color Commentator: Hello.

Announcer: And on the sidelines by…wooboy! by the lovely in black leather Amanda!

Sideline Reporter: Bye losers! I’m off to a rock concert to find myself a real man…or throw my room key…and other things, at the band members. If that doesn’t work then I’ll stand in line after the show is over and maybe one of the band members will autograph my leg! Point is, I’m splittin’.

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Officer Walley and Mr. Billy Club attempt to tackle the Sideline Reporter. The Sideline Reporter administers one swift kick to the YEEEEEOUCH!! and Officer Walley drops to his knees. The Sideline Reporter finishes him off with another kick to the head.

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Announcer: What is your analysis?

Color Commentator: I think this so-called League might be in a spot of bother. They seem to be earnestly defending the Noldor, even though this will ultimately lead to disaster as surely as, well, as your love life is going to go down the tubes Bob.

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Color Commentator: Anyway, we can already see this process beginning. Multiple Noldor are now being mentioned as potential eviction candidates. Particularly troublesome from the perspective of this so-called League is the repeated intervention of Elu Ancalime against Elrond. Sooner or later persistence will pay off. Also alarming from the perspective of the League is the intervention of dancing spawn. She is dangerous because she has an uncanny ability to draw people over to her side. I think this may be the beginning of the end for Glorfindel unless somebody can convince her otherwise. While these are trends, at the moment Erendis has emerged as a serious candidate for eviction today.

Announcer: That’s enough from you! And now for a report from Amanda!

Amanda?

Hello?

Oh, yeah…right. weeps

Color Commentator: Oh, get over it! We’ll be right back.
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I wish to announce, incidentally, that I am not affiliated with this League and have very little idea what is going on, but that I am undoubtedly enjoying it.

Oh and Kuru, Bob needs to get Amanda back, otherwise ratings will collapse, and your security just isn't up to it. I'd be happy to undertake to to track her down and tempt her back into this game.

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Also sometimes known as the "Heroic Resistance of Individual Freethinkers." Apparently they are so disorganized they can't get their name straight.

EDIT: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to track down one Amanda Bobblehead. I'd suggest looking in all the concerts in the greater Middle-earth area. Be wary, while she normally has dark brown hair with blonde highlights, she will undoubtedly have dyed her hair a shocking shade of pink in order to confuse...practically everybody. You will need to be wearing armor as subject is likely to resist violently. *clanks down large, cumbersome sensitive area protector* Never take this off while you are on your mission.

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No, Kuru, you're confused. The League is a League. An alliance like yours, it seems.

The Heroic Resistance is a wider concept. A cause.

Now how about my offer?
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Perhaps. But surely it's better to appeal generally to a sense of justice than to bind thralls in vassalage?

And mum's the word. Donning Galvorn mail. I'll be setting off from Andunie in just under an hour...
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Okay, I'm kind of confused with all these Alliances, Leagues and 'wider concepts'.
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So, there's a League of Extraordinary Barrow-Downers that chooses a target every day and every League member then votes for him or her. And then there's the Alliance thing that acts about the same way. Interesting. Or a bit boring, perhaps. Then at the end of a day the group that has more members gets their candidate voted off, and there is much rejoicing? Splendid. But what about us lone wolves?

Really, what does a girl have to do to get some support nowadays -- join a trade-union?


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Now that her not-so-loving-husband's gone you'd think she'd loosen up a bit; but she's still boring. Moaning, complaining, not having fun. I don't want her on the show, and I don't want to read her awful story ever again.
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I would think that after her husband got voted off she'd lighten up. But Noooo!
Ah, but every show must have the snappish one who is never happy with the way things are. Other contestants and even the viewers make her the official scapegoat whom they can blame for, I don't know, wars, global warming... anything they can think of. Don't you think that keeping her around would be good for people's mental health? Plus, at least this lady has some temper unlike a certain Noldo. *coughGlorfindelcough*
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Old 03-04-2006, 11:08 AM   #154
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And so it continues...

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Old 03-04-2006, 11:12 AM   #155
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No, Spawn. The League is being called upon to temporarily defend a quality character from the assault of The Alliance of Doom. It was Sauce's vote that forced The League's hand. He has shown himself willing to make annoying me his first priority rather than carefully considering and weighing characters, and that is simply not right. So, The League is coming against him, to show him that he and his friends in the "Alliance of Doom" aren't the only power on this thread.

The League supports good honest debate over mindless vendettas.

Thanks for your support Celuien, Tuor, and lord.

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Old 03-04-2006, 11:31 AM   #156
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So we do.

Elrond must not fall today! He is so much more than a standard-bearer, functionary, or other relatively insignificant anthill denizen.
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Elrond was so important that they did not begin the next age until he left. It was only after his departure that Men could begin their dominion, which makes it quite clear that Elrond, due to his lineage and power, was technically the top authority in Middle Earth. It was no accident that the fate of Middle Earth was decided in Rivendell at the Council of Elrond.
That about says it all.

I stand with Elrond for his wisdom, courage, and general...awesomeness.
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Old 03-04-2006, 12:19 PM   #157
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I too love and respect Elrond. My help may not prove important, but if it affords my Erendis campaign a little sympathy then it could be doubly worthwhile.

Spawn, you are wrong to call Erendis 'the snappish one' or a generally exciting anti-establishment malcontent (as you so clearly implied ). She is a grumpy and worthless old bat whom no-one could possibly like.

Eviction is too good for her. I say we feed her to the wolves.
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HEAVILY ARMOURED FIGURE: (speaking through visor) Well, here we are in Andunie, and before I take ship for Middle-earth I'm intending to interview Her Majesty Queen Erendis, who may have important evidence regarding Amanda's location.

ERENDIS: May have? Is that any way to address your sovereign?

HEAVILY ARMOURED FIGURE: Well, er, technically...

ERENDIS: Particularly when her feckless husband had sailed away with some slag to a rock concert, leaving her heartbroken...

ANGUIREL: (for it is he) Wait! Slag? Rock concert? Where was this...

ERENDIS: Silence, rascal. Do not befoul my regal and tragic dignity with your coarse questions.

ANGUIREL: No, no, Your Majesty, that wasn't the intention at all...

(Enter the Elendili, carrying imposing swords.)

ELENDIL: Is that journo spiv giving you trouble, Ma'am?

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No, Spawn. The League is being called upon to temporarily defend a quality character from the assault of The Alliance of Doom. It was Sauce's vote that forced The League's hand. He has shown himself willing to make annoying me his first priority rather than carefully considering and weighing characters, and that is simply not right. So, The League is coming against him, to show him that he and his friends in the "Alliance of Doom" aren't the only power on this thread.

The League supports good honest debate over mindless vendettas.
Ah, sounds honourable, your phantomness. However, I haven't seen much honest debate today. Fuinur was chosen for the 'Save Elrond' vote without much ado, and after that there has been very little talk about anyone else. Elrond has two votes. A big bandwagon for saving him seems a bit superfluous, although maybe its purpose is just to prove how powerful you really are. Pretty impressive, actually. Well, I look forward to hearing more of people's personal interests tomorrow.


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Spawn, you are wrong to call Erendis 'the snappish one' or a generally exciting anti-establishment malcontent (as you so clearly implied ).She is a grumpy and worthless old bat whom no-one could possibly like.
Why, I agree completely. She's horrible. But she provokes emotions. People gather in front of their TV sets every time to wonder her latest whims - and imagine the related merchandise: dartboards with her face printed on them, for example. Although... she might be just a bit too horrendous to keep around for long.

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I too love and respect Elrond. My help may not prove important, but if it affords my Erendis campaign a little sympathy then it could be doubly worthwhile.
Well, Fuinur has now eight votes, so it really doesn't seem to be making a difference anymore (that's some skilled fawning, nonetheless ). Hmmm, a little sympathy you want?
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