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01-21-2001, 07:42 AM

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what is the void where melkor was thrown and how will he return?

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Grand Admiral Reese · 01-21-2001, 09:08 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void

The empty space beyond the Halls of Ea. Its accessable via the Door of Night, and that's where he'll come back from(and where Earendil stands guard).

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Saulotus · 01-21-2001, 10:23 AM

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*drags out Myths Transformed\Last Writings soapbox*

Melkor was not thrown anywhere.
Except (!) possibly to the ground while the Valar >Executed< him. That's about it.

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Orald · 01-21-2001, 05:18 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void

Where were the halls of Iluvatar? Were they in the void? Or is Ea like our galaxy. The dwellings of all the other ainur that didn't go to Ea and stayed with Iluvatar in Halls of Iluvatar(another galaxy) and the void is the space between galaxies.

Does that sound about right? Or is it more complicated than that.

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Tar Elenion · 01-22-2001, 07:39 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void

Ea is all nature, the (natural) universe, but does not include God or spirits. Eru dwell outside of Ea (with many Ainur). Ea is not just a single galaxy.

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Orald · 01-22-2001, 08:45 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void

So the void is what then? That doesn't explain it very well, unless Eru and the other ainur dwell in the void.

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burrahobbit · 02-01-2001, 01:13 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void

The Void is the (mostly) emptiness outside.

What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?</p>

07-12-2002, 04:02 PM

Maybe I haven't been attentive enough,but wasn't Ea the world?And Eru made it round as in the present day world when the Numenoreans tried to attack Valinor?
I always assumed the void was kind of like space and the universe,but thats just me [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Birdland · 07-12-2002, 05:37 PM

I figured the Void was a "place" outside of Time and Space, the Universe, Ea, Arda, Everything. A Dimension without Light, Sound, Sensation or Time. A place where the Song of Eru does not penetrate. The Big Nothing. Total Obliteration. Like the world's biggest isolation tank, only much worse. The only thing there would be your brain wondering "What's next?" Only there would be no Next, because it's the Void.

A very bad place. You don't wanna go there.

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 07-13-2002, 12:28 AM

Like a black hole?

Susan Delgado · 07-13-2002, 01:21 PM

Excellent description, Birdland. I agree.

[ July 13, 2002: Message edited by: Susan Delgado ]

01-21-2001, 07:42 AM	#1
nine nazguls Guest Posts: n/a	what is the void <font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Newly Deceased Posts: 8</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> what is the void where melkor was thrown and how will he return? </p>

01-22-2001, 07:39 PM	#5
Tar Elenion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 358	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 26</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void Ea is all nature, the (natural) universe, but does not include God or spirits. Eru dwell outside of Ea (with many Ainur). Ea is not just a single galaxy. Tar-Elenion The High Elves had been in the hands of the gods praising and adoring Eru 'the One', Iluvatar the Father of All on the Mountain of Aman</p> __________________ Tar-Elenion

02-01-2001, 01:13 AM	#7
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hidden Spirit Posts: 590</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void The Void is the (mostly) emptiness outside. What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?</p> __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

07-13-2002, 12:28 AM	#10
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	Like a black hole? __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

07-13-2002, 01:21 PM	#11
Susan Delgado The Perished Flame Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: behind my eyes Posts: 1,096	Excellent description, Birdland. I agree. [ July 13, 2002: Message edited by: Susan Delgado ] __________________ "Man as a whole, Man pitted against the universe, have we seen him at all 'til we see that he is like a hero in a fairy tale?"

01-21-2001, 09:08 AM	#2
Grand Admiral Reese Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 40	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 49</TD><TD><img src=http://www.facelink.com/edit/raw/rawimage/50/1315350.jpg?flezbwidth=60&flezbheight=60?flezbwidt h=60&flezbheight=60?flezbwidth=60&flezbheight=60?f lezbwidth=60&flezbheight=60?flezbwidth=60&flezbhei ght=60 WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void The empty space beyond the Halls of Ea. Its accessable via the Door of Night, and that's where he'll come back from(and where Earendil stands guard). Tall ships and tall kings Three times three, What brought they from the foundered land Over the flowing sea? Seven stars and seven stones And one white tree. .</br> Administrator @ <a href=http://pub6.ezboard.com/bthegrandadmiralsforums>The Grand Admirals Forums</a>, <a href=http://pub10.ezboard.com/bb5techforums>The Grey Council Forums</a>, <a href=http://pub9.ezboard.com/bechostation12>The McClain Council</a> and <a href=http://pub14.ezboard.com/bthegrandmoffsforums>The Grand Moff's Forums</a>.</br> </p>

01-21-2001, 10:23 AM	#3
Saulotus Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 346	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shade of Carn Dûm Posts: 424</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void drags out Myths Transformed\Last Writings* soapbox* Melkor was not thrown anywhere. Except (!) possibly to the ground while the Valar >Executed< him. That's about it. </p>

01-21-2001, 05:18 PM	#4
Orald Shadow of Malice Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: right behind you Posts: 843	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shade of Carn Dûm Posts: 298</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void Where were the halls of Iluvatar? Were they in the void? Or is Ea like our galaxy. The dwellings of all the other ainur that didn't go to Ea and stayed with Iluvatar in Halls of Iluvatar(another galaxy) and the void is the space between galaxies. Does that sound about right? Or is it more complicated than that. </p>

01-22-2001, 08:45 PM	#6
Orald Shadow of Malice Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: right behind you Posts: 843	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shade of Carn Dûm Posts: 315</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: what is the void So the void is what then? That doesn't explain it very well, unless Eru and the other ainur dwell in the void. </p>

07-12-2002, 04:02 PM	#8
Elessar,Elfstone Guest Posts: n/a	Maybe I haven't been attentive enough,but wasn't Ea the world?And Eru made it round as in the present day world when the Numenoreans tried to attack Valinor? I always assumed the void was kind of like space and the universe,but thats just me [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

07-12-2002, 05:37 PM	#9
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	I figured the Void was a "place" outside of Time and Space, the Universe, Ea, Arda, Everything. A Dimension without Light, Sound, Sensation or Time. A place where the Song of Eru does not penetrate. The Big Nothing. Total Obliteration. Like the world's biggest isolation tank, only much worse. The only thing there would be your brain wondering "What's next?" Only there would be no Next, because it's the Void. A very bad place. You don't wanna go there.