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Old 12-06-2007, 07:07 AM   #601
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I was thinking what kind of hint should I give. Maybe if you have anyone any specific request of which direction should I aim my hint.

But first, let me emphasise the fact that what I am speaking of can be found really in the book, in the story of Thrór and Nár (at least the part of the riddle that concerns these two).

The best thing I can do is to suggest to try whether you can find parallels between Elrond's life and the story of Thrór and Nár. And if there was ever similar thing that happened to Elrond (not the whole story, but some aspects of it).
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:29 AM   #602
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But Elrond had such a long life!

Mind if I ask what age this parellel even took place in?
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Well, that would be helping quite a lot...

But okay, I can tell you that it wasn't in Beleriand.

And I am referring to only one single event. In both of the stories: Nár's and Elrond's.
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I can only think of Celebrian for now, who was tormented by the Orcs.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:21 PM   #605
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Getting closer. In some things very close. In fact, you are probably the closest you can be. The next guess in the line of going this way should be the correct answer.
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Hmmm...perhaps Celebrimbor, whos death at the hands of the Orcs Elrond could no prevent?
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Yes, Celebrimbor it was. I was referring also to the fact that Thrár's head was chopped off and Nár saw it the same as Sauron's host attacked with Celebrimbor's body instead of a standard...

Please give us another, Mr. Might.
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Old 12-09-2007, 04:41 AM   #608
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Well, I waited for a while to try and find something good...anyway here goes:

Tom Cotton and Rosie Cotton are like

Faramir and ?
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Which Tom Cotton did you have in mind?
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Boromir, then– Tom was Rosie's older brother.
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Yes, but not what I had in mind...something more special.
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Can you please clarify that, Might?

Is the answer

A) Not Boromir

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B) Boromir, but for a different reason?
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Lothíriel? She married Faramir's wife's brother; Tom married Rosie's husband's sister.
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Indeed.
You're good, nice to see you so often in the Quiz Room!
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:12 AM   #617
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Thanks.

Here's my effort:

Dragon's teeth are to the Dwarves as ________ are to the Sackville-Bagginses.
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:18 AM   #618
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What about spoons? Fram gave the Dwarves this necklace of dragon teeth, and they were quite upset. The same happened with Bilbo's gift to Lobelia.
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Old 12-12-2007, 05:40 PM   #619
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Old 12-13-2007, 08:19 AM   #620
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Gandalf was to Denethor

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Galadriel was to ________
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:48 AM   #621
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How about Saruman? Galadriel supported his rival (Gandalf); Gandalf supported Denethor's rival (Aragorn).
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Absolutely precise shot! Very good! Please continue
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Finrod Felagund is to Men as ________ is to the Elves.
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Hmm, I don't know, someone like... Oromë?
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Yep, your turn.
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Oh, yeah! Then...

Gollum on Mount Doom is to Sauron

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Two orcs in the wood are to _______

I hope this is not too vague, but I think with the specifications I provided it is not
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These were not two (and in fact, they were not precisely in the wood either)
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A clue, please?
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What these two cases have in common is fire.
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Hmmn... my brain isn't working today. 'Nother clue, please.
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Catalyser.
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The fire is the catalyser. It is needed to be there in both cases. I don't want to be too obvious...
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I think I have it!

Is it Aghan the Drűg?

Two Orcs set fire to Barach's house in the wood, burning the statue into which Aghan had transferred his power.

Gollum fell into the fires of Mount Doom, destroying the Ring into which Sauron had transferred his power.

In both cases the object's creator was also harmed through a kind of "sympathetic magic".
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Exactly I know, tricky, but it wasn't that hard, wasn't it?

Please, continue with the thread
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I don't know why it took me so long– except I haven't been around for the last few weeks.

I'll get back to you when I've thought of something.
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Old 02-07-2008, 07:19 AM   #637
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Thought of something yet, Nerwen?
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Old 02-07-2008, 07:31 AM   #638
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Oh dear, I forgot all about this thread.

Hang in there!
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:41 AM   #639
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This is the best I can come up with at the moment. Lame, yes, but it will serve to re-start the thread.

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Old 02-07-2008, 09:19 AM   #640
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