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Dimaldaeon · 07-14-2003, 02:58 PM

Did anyone see Dead Ringers on BBC2 earlier. Now I know that I sound like a whinging, obsessed geek but the LOTR sketch annoyed me.It went something like this Saruman is in Orthanc holding the Ring S: At last I have the Ring which will allow me to dominate Middle Earth for ever Suddenly Gandalf the White appears G:Not so fast Saruman S: But, how? You're dead. G: It is true Gandalf the Grey fell battling the Balrog but I am Gandalf the White. S:But you cant just come back to life because you're a slightly different colour G:Of course I can, it's a fantasy film. S:Well what if I do this Saruman zaps Gandalf with lightning Gandalf dies then comes back as Gandalf the tartan G:You can't kill me Saruman, I have an entire Dulux colour brochure Scene switches to Crimewatch Presenter: If you have been in the cinema in the past twelve months you may have noticed the drastic rise in implausable film scripts. This was followed by a half dozen sketches with dead tv personalities coming back in white versionsWell i'm having my rant but i've got to say this is a poor show being pathetic

Meela · 07-14-2003, 03:16 PM

That sounds hilarious! I adore parodies/humour I never got round to seeing the show, unfortunately.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 07-14-2003, 04:17 PM

Gandalf the Tartan has potential. There aren't enough Scottish Maiar. I never object to parodies. Admittedly this one was ill-informed, but perhaps that's an indication that Gandalf's non-human status hasn't been stated sufficiently strongly in the films. Either that or the writers of that series weren't paying attention. Either way it's all in fun, so there's no need to get hot under the collar about it.

Finwe · 07-14-2003, 04:25 PM

If we did end up having Gandalf the Tartan, then Ian McKellen just couldn't play him. We would need Sean Connery for that. Just imagine, "Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe?" *falls over laughing at the mental image of Frodo covered in spit*

Aredhel Ar-Feiniel · 07-14-2003, 05:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>"Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That seriously cracked me up.

Sapphire_Flame · 07-14-2003, 08:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>"Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe?"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> *dies*

Neferchoirwen · 07-14-2003, 08:44 PM

Gandalf the Tartan indeed! ...now the Gandalf image of Sean Connery is stuck to my head, with the accent and all...i little bit ill-informed, I'll have to agree. Didn't enjoy that one.

the phantom · 07-14-2003, 10:40 PM

Yeah, they don't seem to know anything about LOTR, but it's not too big of a deal. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> For the first time in quite a while, I am literally lol!

Diamond18 · 07-15-2003, 02:08 AM

Well, I've read much more ignorant, insulting satires. And "Gandalf the Tartan" is pretty funny. This actually puts me in mind of that hilarious Looney Tunes cartoon where the mice pretend that the cat is dying, and loudly discuss with each other the many colors he's supposedly turning. It culminates in "Oh my God! He's turning plaid!"Sorry. That was just an integeral part of my childhood. I inwardly chortle just thinking about it...

Amanaduial the archer · 07-15-2003, 12:15 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> We would need Sean Connery for that. Just imagine, "Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>....which is as bad as when he was giving 'the oschar for the besht actresh in a shupporting role.'Sorry Dimaldaeon, but that whole parody actually sounds seriously funny. There have been a few truly terrible parodies of LotR, but that sounds like a good one.

The Only Real Estel · 07-15-2003, 12:23 PM

The parody didn't bother me, it was more how the guys were basically saying that Gandalf got to come back to life because he was 'the white now' that got me. Still, it doesn't bother me much, & I thought the parody was mildly humerous... [ July 16, 2003: Message edited by: The Only Real Estel ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-15-2003, 05:00 PM

In my view, Dead Ringers is one of the better satirical sketch shows around at the moment. Most of the impressions (Tony Blair and George Bush, for example) are very good, and it's generally well-scripted and up to date.The satire is primarily political, but the point of that sketch was mainly to poke fun at implausible plot twists through the medium of Crimewatch, the punch-line being the implausibility of Dirty Den's return to Eastenders. I don't think that they were too bothered with the niceties of Tolkien-lore (after all, Saruman had the Ring).I must say that I did find it fairly amusing, particularly when Gandalf produced his selection of colours from under his cloak. I also like the ludicrous connection between Gandalf returning to ME and Dirty Den returning to Albert Square. [ July 15, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Lily · 07-15-2003, 09:39 PM

Hehehe I think it's funny!

Duncariel · 07-16-2003, 11:04 AM

I've been telling everyone for a long time that Sean Connery could have played Gandalf...

Tarien Ithil · 07-16-2003, 11:40 AM

Sean Connery as Gandalf? Hmmm...I don't know....he could work but he'd probably need to be more serious.

Amanaduial the archer · 07-16-2003, 11:46 AM

Oh, he can do serious, really. But just the idea of him going to Orthanc to conshult Sharuman....I'm sorry.

LePetitChoux · 07-16-2003, 12:15 PM

I thought that edition of Dead Ringers was very funny. I'm more of an Alistair MacGowan girl, but you know. 2DTV do the best Bush satire, in my opinion, though.Hehe, I can just imagine Sean Connery as Gandalf!

Lady_Báin · 07-18-2003, 09:50 AM

Ah, I haven't had a laugh like that for a good while, thank you Finwe!hmmm i'm a bit of a humbug myself and don't enjoy having my LotR messed with so there you have it.

Elentári · 07-18-2003, 12:31 PM

Ooooh I like Alistair McGowan too! Not that I actually get to see it often, but there you go... But Gandalf the Tartan... *dies*....*remembers she is already dead* oops...Who is dirty Den? It isn't Dennis is it? I'm sorry, I don't really follow Eastenders, I just watch the odd episode.

Dimaldaeon · 07-18-2003, 03:36 PM

Ok ok sorry about it wasn't that bad. It's just that I haven't been on this site for ages (Damn broken internet connection) and i really wanted to post about something. I saw something that ticked me off a bit and so I posted. Ah well dead ringers isn't all that bad My oh my dosen't hindsight make you feel like a jackass

Daisy Brambleburr · 07-19-2003, 01:07 PM

I think Dead Ringers is funny. Especially Tony Blair picking up some old guys ham and going on about weapons of mass destruction. But I agree, Alistar McGowan is hilarious. As for the parodys, I like them. You've got to take the insults to your favorite movie/book on the chin. I love to take the rag out of the movies, even though I love them really. You know, laughing at Aragorn's greasy hair and Legolas' nancing. Most parodies are very funny. Have you read 'Lord of the Blings' on stupidring.com? It has some swearing etc, but it is very funny, in my humble opinion.

Lyra Greenleaf · 07-19-2003, 04:01 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> "Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Brilliant. Truly brilliant! I don't see the problem with people making fun really, I mean it's just a joke! They're making fun of people who think like that as much as the thing itself. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Who is dirty Den? It isn't Dennis is it? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Dennis' dad (and Vicky's, and Sharon's). They keep going ON AND ON about him. And now he's coming back from the dead. Hence the mickey-taking. It's Harold Bishop all over again!

Dimaldaeon · 07-20-2003, 02:09 PM

Damn it why did I post this in the first place. Even i'm starting to like that damnable programme It's that Russel Crowe impression Maximus: So what is your name? Mick: Mick Maximus: Excellent, then I shall call you Mickus. Now Mickus we must fortify these walls in preparation for invasion by Visigoths and Huns. Also we need some aquaducts and a triumphal arch over there. Why is there no triumphal arch?(Clenches teeth)MUST NOT LAUGH

Diamond18 · 07-20-2003, 02:19 PM

Saruman: "I gave you the chance of aiding me willingly, but you have elected the way of pain! Am I not mershiful?"

Nehani · 07-21-2003, 11:49 AM

Hurrah for the Scots! Sean Connery could have been a great Gandalf! I haven't laughed this much ina while (not since I last visited the Saruman With Crayons). No longer Gandalf the White, why not Gandalf the Plaid?Nehani (of Scottish ancestry)

Pookabunny · 07-21-2003, 05:05 PM

::giggles::That was cool. Yeppers, now that Lord of the Rings is popular (and by popular, I mean it is now a regonizable conglomeration of words that any household member will recognize), it will be subject to spoofs. And I like 'em.I wonder if a group will actually take the time, money, and dedication to do a full-fledged LOTR spoof film. If so, I'm SOOOO game. I'll gladly endorse such efforts

Oddwen · 07-21-2003, 05:42 PM

I love parodies! That would have been cute, I think.I might actually prefer Sean Connery to Ian McKellen. There was a photoshopped picture using Mr. Connery's face somewhere.

07-21-2003, 07:33 PM

I know that almost everyone has commented on it, but the whole "ish it shecret?" thing absolutely cracked me up. I seriously almost fell out of my chair laughing! thanks.

07-14-2003, 02:58 PM	#1
Dimaldaeon Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ireland & damn proud of it. Posts: 125	Ok, now i'm angry Did anyone see Dead Ringers on BBC2 earlier.<BR>Now I know that I sound like a whinging, obsessed geek but the LOTR sketch annoyed me.<P>It went something like this<BR>Saruman is in Orthanc holding the Ring<BR>S: At last I have the Ring which will allow me to dominate Middle Earth for ever<BR>Suddenly Gandalf the White appears<BR>G:Not so fast Saruman<BR>S: But, how? You're dead.<BR>G: It is true Gandalf the Grey fell battling the Balrog but I am Gandalf the White.<BR>S:But you cant just come back to life because you're a slightly different colour<BR>G:Of course I can, it's a fantasy film.<BR>S:Well what if I do this <BR>Saruman zaps Gandalf with lightning<BR>Gandalf dies then comes back as Gandalf the tartan<BR>G:You can't kill me Saruman, I have an entire Dulux colour brochure<BR>Scene switches to Crimewatch<BR>Presenter: If you have been in the cinema in the past twelve months you may have noticed the drastic rise in implausable film scripts.<BR>This was followed by a half dozen sketches with dead tv personalities coming back in white versions<P>Well i'm having my rant but i've got to say this is a poor show being pathetic __________________ Dear Saddam, Do not disunderestimate me.Yours G.W.Bush You're not drunk if you can still hold onto a blade of grass to stop yourself from falling off the face of the Earth

07-14-2003, 03:16 PM	#2
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,070	That sounds hilarious! I adore parodies/humour <BR>I never got round to seeing the show, unfortunately. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

07-14-2003, 04:17 PM	#3
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,184	Gandalf the Tartan has potential. There aren't enough Scottish Maiar. <P>I never object to parodies. Admittedly this one was ill-informed, but perhaps that's an indication that Gandalf's non-human status hasn't been stated sufficiently strongly in the films. Either that or the writers of that series weren't paying attention. Either way it's all in fun, so there's no need to get hot under the collar about it. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

07-14-2003, 04:25 PM	#4
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	If we did end up having Gandalf the Tartan, then Ian McKellen just couldn't play him. We would need Sean Connery for that. Just imagine, "Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe?" <P>falls over laughing at the mental image of Frodo covered in spit __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

07-14-2003, 05:55 PM	#5
Aredhel Ar-Feiniel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brisvegas Posts: 71	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>"Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That seriously cracked me up. __________________ Vous ne pouvez pas habiter sans Dior

07-14-2003, 08:36 PM	#6
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,246	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>"Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe?"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>dies __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

07-14-2003, 08:44 PM	#7
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 513	Gandalf the Tartan indeed! ...now the Gandalf image of Sean Connery is stuck to my head, with the accent and all...<P>i little bit ill-informed, I'll have to agree. Didn't enjoy that one. __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/

07-14-2003, 10:40 PM	#8
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,987	Yeah, they don't seem to know anything about LOTR, but it's not too big of a deal.<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>For the first time in quite a while, I am literally lol! __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

07-15-2003, 02:08 AM	#9
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,493	Well, I've read much more ignorant, insulting satires. And "Gandalf the Tartan" is pretty funny. This actually puts me in mind of that hilarious Looney Tunes cartoon where the mice pretend that the cat is dying, and loudly discuss with each other the many colors he's supposedly turning. It culminates in "Oh my God! He's turning <I>plaid!"</I><P>Sorry. That was just an integeral part of my childhood. I inwardly chortle just thinking about it... __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

07-15-2003, 12:15 PM	#10
Amanaduial the archer Shadow of Starlight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: dancing among the ledgerlines... Posts: 2,365	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> We would need Sean Connery for that. Just imagine, "Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>....which is as bad as when he was giving 'the oschar for the besht actresh in a shupporting role.'<P>Sorry Dimaldaeon, but that whole parody actually sounds seriously funny. There have been a few truly terrible parodies of LotR, but that sounds like a good one. __________________ I am what I was, a harmless little devil

07-15-2003, 12:23 PM	#11
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,917	The parody didn't bother me, it was more how the guys were basically saying that Gandalf got to come back to life because he was 'the white now' that got me. Still, it doesn't bother me much, & I thought the parody was mildly humerous... <p>[ July 16, 2003: Message edited by: The Only Real Estel ]

07-15-2003, 05:00 PM	#12
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,436	In my view, <I>Dead Ringers</I> is one of the better satirical sketch shows around at the moment. Most of the impressions (Tony Blair and George Bush, for example) are very good, and it's generally well-scripted and up to date.<P>The satire is primarily political, but the point of that sketch was mainly to poke fun at implausible plot twists through the medium of <I>Crimewatch</I>, the punch-line being the implausibility of Dirty Den's return to <I>Eastenders</I>. I don't think that they were too bothered with the niceties of Tolkien-lore (after all, Saruman had the Ring).<P>I must say that I did find it fairly amusing, particularly when Gandalf produced his selection of colours from under his cloak. I also like the ludicrous connection between Gandalf returning to ME and Dirty Den returning to Albert Square. <p>[ July 15, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-15-2003, 09:39 PM	#13
Lily Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wouldn't you like to know!! Posts: 72	Hehehe I think it's funny!

07-16-2003, 11:04 AM	#14
Duncariel Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Land of the Ice and Snow Posts: 226	I've been telling everyone for a long time that Sean Connery could have played Gandalf... __________________ Middle-earth: Insanity "What, the peons aren't trusted?" -- Yazoo, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children

07-16-2003, 11:40 AM	#15
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Sean Connery as Gandalf? Hmmm...I don't know....he could work but he'd probably need to be more serious. __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

07-16-2003, 11:46 AM	#16
Amanaduial the archer Shadow of Starlight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: dancing among the ledgerlines... Posts: 2,365	Oh, he can do serious, really. But just the idea of him going to Orthanc to conshult Sharuman....<P>I'm sorry. __________________ I am what I was, a harmless little devil

07-16-2003, 12:15 PM	#17
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 721	I thought that edition of Dead Ringers was very funny. I'm more of an Alistair MacGowan girl, but you know. 2DTV do the best Bush satire, in my opinion, though.<P>Hehe, I can just imagine Sean Connery as Gandalf! __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

07-18-2003, 09:50 AM	#18
Lady_Báin Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Peterborough, England Posts: 250	Ah, I haven't had a laugh like that for a good while, thank you Finwe!<P>hmmm i'm a bit of a humbug myself and don't enjoy having my LotR messed with so there you have it. __________________ pæling.

07-18-2003, 12:31 PM	#19
Elentári Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Up a tree somewhere in Caras Galadhon... Posts: 113	Ooooh I like Alistair McGowan too! Not that I actually get to see it often, but there you go... But Gandalf the Tartan... dies....remembers she is already dead oops...<P>Who is dirty Den? It isn't Dennis is it? I'm sorry, I don't really follow Eastenders, I just watch the odd episode. __________________ Dotard! What is the house of Eorl but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek, and their brats roll on the floor among the dogs? Spread the word! The 1st annual Golden Ring Marathon! October 20th 2005! Tell Everyone! Frodo Lives!

07-18-2003, 03:36 PM	#20
Dimaldaeon Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ireland & damn proud of it. Posts: 125	Ok ok sorry about it wasn't that bad.<BR>It's just that I haven't been on this site for ages (Damn broken internet connection) and i really wanted to post about something. I saw something that ticked me off a bit and so I posted. Ah well dead ringers isn't all that bad <P>My oh my dosen't hindsight make you feel like a jackass __________________ Dear Saddam, Do not disunderestimate me.Yours G.W.Bush You're not drunk if you can still hold onto a blade of grass to stop yourself from falling off the face of the Earth

07-19-2003, 01:07 PM	#21
Daisy Brambleburr Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 334	I think Dead Ringers is funny. Especially Tony Blair picking up some old guys ham and going on about weapons of mass destruction. But I agree, Alistar McGowan is hilarious. <BR>As for the parodys, I like them. You've got to take the insults to your favorite movie/book on the chin. I love to take the rag out of the movies, even though I love them really. You know, laughing at Aragorn's greasy hair and Legolas' nancing.<BR> Most parodies are very funny. Have you read 'Lord of the Blings' on stupidring.com? It has some swearing etc, but it is very funny, in my humble opinion. __________________ 'What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve? Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.'

07-19-2003, 04:01 PM	#22
Lyra Greenleaf The Diaphanous Dryad Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: R toL: 531, past the wild path Posts: 1,160	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> "Ish it shecret? Ish it shafe?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Brilliant. Truly brilliant! <P>I don't see the problem with people making fun really, I mean it's just a joke! They're making fun of people who think like that as much as the thing itself.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Who is dirty Den? It isn't Dennis is it? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Dennis' dad (and Vicky's, and Sharon's). They keep going ON AND ON about him. And now he's coming back from the dead. Hence the mickey-taking. It's Harold Bishop all over again! __________________ “Sylphs of the forest,” I whispered. “Spirits of oak, beech and ash. Dryads of Rowan and hazel, hear us. You who have guided and guarded our every footstep, you who have sheltered our growth, we honour you." the Forbidden Link

07-20-2003, 02:09 PM	#23
Dimaldaeon Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ireland & damn proud of it. Posts: 125	Damn it why did I post this in the first place. Even i'm starting to like that damnable programme <P>It's that Russel Crowe impression<BR>Maximus: So what is your name?<BR>Mick: Mick<BR>Maximus: Excellent, then I shall call you Mickus. Now Mickus we must fortify these walls in preparation for invasion by Visigoths and Huns. Also we need some aquaducts and a triumphal arch over there. Why is there no triumphal arch?<P>(Clenches teeth)MUST NOT LAUGH __________________ Dear Saddam, Do not disunderestimate me.Yours G.W.Bush You're not drunk if you can still hold onto a blade of grass to stop yourself from falling off the face of the Earth

07-20-2003, 02:19 PM	#24
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,493	Saruman: "I gave you the chance of aiding me willingly, but you have elected the way of pain! Am I not mershiful?" __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

07-21-2003, 11:49 AM	#25
Nehani Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mirkwood (or something like it) Posts: 80	Hurrah for the Scots! Sean Connery could have been a great Gandalf! I haven't laughed this much ina while (not since I last visited the Saruman With Crayons). No longer Gandalf the White, why not Gandalf the Plaid?<P>Nehani (of Scottish ancestry) __________________ "Been A Long Road To Follow, Been There And Gone Tomorrow Without Saying Goodbye To Yesterday..." "The Way Is Closed. It Was Made By Those Who are Dead. The Way is Closed."

07-21-2003, 05:05 PM	#26
Pookabunny Wight Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The only place that matters! Posts: 181	::giggles::<P>That was cool. <P>Yeppers, now that Lord of the Rings is popular (and by popular, I mean it is now a regonizable conglomeration of words that any household member will recognize), it will be subject to spoofs. And I like 'em.<P>I wonder if a group will actually take the time, money, and dedication to do a full-fledged LOTR spoof film. If so, I'm SOOOO game. I'll gladly endorse such efforts __________________ "I love you more than I did the week before, I discovered alcohol" - Bare Naked Ladies

07-21-2003, 05:42 PM	#27
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,166	I <I>love</I> parodies! That would have been cute, I think.<P>I might actually prefer Sean Connery to Ian McKellen. <BR>There was a photoshopped picture using Mr. Connery's face somewhere. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

07-21-2003, 07:33 PM	#28
Anolduin Guest Posts: n/a	I know that almost everyone has commented on it, but the whole "ish it shecret?" thing absolutely cracked me up. I seriously almost fell out of my chair laughing! thanks.