What did you think about Legolas...before the movies?

[GaladrieloftheOlden]

I was just wondering, before you saw the movies, what did you think about the character? Because now, after the movie, opinions have changed. Right now, most people who haven't even seen or read LotR think about it in terms of "oh, that movie with the hot blond guy". But I don't think that was the point of JRRs Legolas. What's your opinion on him as a character? Or on how most people's opinions changed after the movies? Just wondering' [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

[Tinuviel the Nightingale]

In the book, I think of Legolas as a more silent, strong character that is always reliable if you need a hand. I think Orlando Bloom portrayed Legolas reasonably, but I still get the feeling that something's missing.
Also, in the book he sung more and I would have liked to hear a beautiful elven voice (not sure if Orlando Bloom can sing though). [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[Arawethiel]

I agree that Legolas seemed stronger in the novel. Although Legolas was portrayed as a loyal serious elf in the movie there was a difference in characters that I felt after I read TTT. Legolas was more a part of nature in the book than in the movie. Tolkien described him at one point as "thoughtful and silent as a young tree in a windless night" in TTT and that just is something I could not see Orlando Bloom as in the movie. Although I have to admit I thought he was cute. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I also miss the fact that Legolas doesn't sing in the movie. It's a part of his character that's missing in the movies. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

I suppose a lot of movie Legolas fans only think of him as a "hottie" because they have never really read any of the books. People who have know there is more to Legolas than him being a cute archer.

[Adutincowen]

what she said ^^^ [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[Iarwain]

I didn't really care about Legolas, and I care even less now. He's always just been the elf with the really good eyes to me... And then came the Orli calamity. We all mourn for the lost character that Legolas once was, or could have been.

Iarwain

[Niluial]

I agree with everyone! Orlando Bloom played his part well, he was a good Legolas! But yes there was something missing! In the book he was a stronger character, a wise elf, a person to rely on! But in the movie I don’t know! But something was defiantly missing! Hmm I also wander, can he sing?

[Meela]

I thought he was prancy. (in a good way)

[Balin999]

I was rather disappointed by the movie Legolas. And after the Orli-mania I didn't even like him anymore.
In the books he is strong, sharp-sighted and well, I just liked him, though he wasn't my favourite character.
In the movie he's just a more or less good looking guy, he's nothing special, just a companion. And I think it's rather sad that there are so many people who just watch the movies because of him and don't even care about the story or the books.
And, another point, you don't really become aware of the friendship between Gimli and Legolas in the movies. In the movies, Gimli reminds me of Steve Urcle, and Legolas is his intelligent but not-so-funny companion.
So, at that point, P.J. has not done good work.

[Cherie Centaur]

OK, I know I 'm gonna get hit for this one, but I thought, in TTT, the movie Legolas was better than the book. Granted I miss the running always ahead and not wanting to stop to rest, but the whole fight with Aragorn before Helm's Deep ROCKED!! Even though it wasn't in the novel.

Anyways, to answer the topic, I thought that Legolas, before I saw the movie, was cool, though the friendship with Gimli is strange [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] . I had only read FOtR and up to Helm's Deep in TTT, when the first movie came out. After that, I admit that I joined the Bandwagon and got obsessed with Orli. Thankfully, after I read all of TTT and RotK, my obsession with Orli deminished. Now I can't stand elfy-boppers!

May Peace Find You,
Cherie

[ April 06, 2003: Message edited by: Cherie Centaur ]

[Cherie Centaur]

In the books he is strong, sharp-sighted and well, I just liked him, though he wasn't my favourite character.

That's what I meant when I said "cool". Thanks, Balin99, for being more articulate than me.

[Lyra Greenleaf]

I have to say that I think the films have changed so much that they are a seperate thing. As for book-Legolas I thought he was a good fighter, etc.- but a little boring! I preferred the Hobbits.

Then came the film and, call me shallow, but Orlando is gorgeous! I think his legolas stood out more from the rest of the plot for me.

I'm not saying it is better, but I don't think it's the portrayal that's changed it, I think it's the writitng. No, I can't imagine the book-Legolas saying "Shall I fetch you a box" but you can't really blame orlando Bloom for that.

[Catherine]

I always thought Legolas was a cool character. But I never really had a favorite. I still don't. Even though Orlando Bloom(legolas) is really hot!

[Balin999]

That's what I meant when I said "cool". Thanks, Balin99, for being more articulate than me

I'm glad that i could help [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Well, the movie Legolas is ok too, but I didn't see him as the Legolas in the books. He was a little different for me. That's why I was disappointed.
And, well some may call me jealous, but I don't think that Orlando Bloom is THAT hot.

Imagine what had happened if Brad Pitt had played Legolas.

[Liriodendron]

It's hard to remember! The book Legolas seemed older, somewhat wiser, and more distant. An "fresh" elf, selected for the fellowship to represent his species, and help in ways (sensory....sight, sound, elvish "premonitions", and of course, superior battle skills!) the others couldn't. His thoughts were often somewhere else. Movie Legolas seems a little too young more than anything. He is a little "soft spoken". (Though I like this quality in him!) There just seems to be more emphasis on hobbits in the book. (IMO)

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[Goldberry]

I thought the book-Legolas was a little . . . boring. His description was just not very full. I think in the movie, he was alright . . . still not my favorite, though. I will admit, Orlando Bloom is a really good looking guy, but the whole Orli obsession really made me not like his whole character as much. I think Orlando Bloom did pretty well, but Peter Jackson didn't develop his character all that well.

[Diamond18]

He's certainly more visible in the movie, but I don't see so much of a difference in the basics of his personality.

There are some incidental differences, of course, but when you get down to it, he does what Legolas would do, doesn't he? I think the main difference has to do with the fact that he looks very much like a 20-some year old kid, and when you read the book he seems older. But that's a really sticky thing about Elves, they have to look ageless and you'll never find an actor who looks that way.

As to what I thought of Legolas before the movie... *crickets chirp*... Well, he wasn't much of a rounded out character. Tolkien even neglected him completely at times (can you say "Pelennor Fields"?) He didn't have much in the way of his own personal dilemmas or agendas, so I didn't pay much attention to him.

But then again I am a hobbit-fancier, and Elves in general don't interest me much.

[merenwen]

i liked legolas in the book, especially the whole snow scene thingy, about him goin to get the sun... yea neway, sorry to be a leggy fancier but i think legolas in the movie was good and he can't help it if he's really good looking [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Imagine what had happened if Brad Pitt had played Legolas

What????????????????? Are you out of your mind?
1. He is completely non elf-like
2. He's already well known. Orli exploded because he was a newcomer
3. Not one single Tolkien fan would watch the film- I don't think I would. Brad Pitt indeed...
4. Personally I would say Orlando is better looking, but thats my opinion.

OK, so I'm not entirely sure of my point, or yours, but that just got to me. Sorry. I don't mean it personally- in fact I can't remember who posted it!
EDIT: Balin, sorry!

[ April 06, 2003: Message edited by: Lyra Greenleaf ]

[merenwen]

i liked legolas in the book, especially the whole snow scene thingy, about him goin to get the sun... yea neway, sorry to be a leggy fancier but i think legolas in the movie was good and he can't help it if he's really good looking [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] but i can see why sum ppl liked him a little less after the whole obsession w/orli thing

[Balin999]

Lyra Greenleaf, it's ok, I knew that this sentence would provoke controversial opinions, that's why I posted it [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
Well I think Brad Pitt would have been too mature to be an elf. Bloom looks more old and young the same time , more or less (in the movie!).

Hi.
I think that Orlando Bloom is not Legolas Greenleaf from the books, but I don't have a problem with him being good looking. Am I wrong or didn't Tolkien mention that Elves are good looking? Even better looking than other races?
I thought of Legolas almost the same way I do now.

[Nuranar]

I always liked him in the books. It's been a habit of mine for a long time to pick a favorite minor character (as opposed to the protagonist(s)) and follow that character throughout the book. At least of the members of the Fellowship, that character was Legolas. As has been said he is hard to get a handle on, but he is more...admirable in the books. I mean, as Diamond said, it's hard to get the aura right in a movie. The visual medium is both extremely powerful and very very subtle. It's hard to make a point that everyone will see without blasting it into their faces. With words, one can give shades of character and of the awe that attends even the "lesser" of the Elves. I definitely saw him as a warrior equal to Aragorn in might and skill, although not a swordsman. The greatness of him is not really depicted in the movies.

Not that Orlando didn't do a good job; on the contrary, for the most part I enjoy his portrayal. And Elves are indeed the fairest. The things that bother me most are deliberate character changes (i.e. Faramir), and the movie Legolas did not conflict strikingly with the mental image I had (character-wise, not physical appearance).

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yes, like Nuranar, I always was a (book) Legolas fan. He was one of the more minor fellowship members, as far as plot, but I liked the... elvishness for lack of a better word... that he brought to the group. Even though he's not one of the Noldor by any stretch of the imagination, he does bring that feeling of age and memory with him.

I agree entirely with whichever one of you said that the difference between Legolas in the book and Legolas in the movie is more writing than portrayal. In FoTR I didn't have a problem with Legolas very much, he gets in a few deep moments (notably in Rivendell and Lorien) one gets a small glimpse of his "elvishness", Orlando Bloom portrays him well in my opinion. TT however... *grimaces* I really hate the way Legolas and Gimli's friendship is underplayed or left out of the movies... [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] I think that's one of the more important things Legolas does in the whole story. He's also becomes more of a light character, he doesn't have any deep moments and exhibits a fear of death that I think would be uncharacteristic of the original Legolas. He doesn't work nearly so well for me in TT.

However, just to put my two cents in... I don't think he's very attractive. *shrugs* I'm strange I guess [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] He looks a little better with his piercings and stuff... but generally... nothing to get excited about.

-Sophia

[Lalaith]

I have to say I hadn't really thought about him that much as a book character. I like elves, but there seemed to be better elves around than him. I was kind of disappointed, for example, that Elrond didn't follow up his early idea of sending Glorfindel along on the quest.
But...when the film came out, I realised that of course Legolas is an elf, and that elves are beautiful and strong, and there he was, on the screen, being beautiful and strong...you get the picture. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
Anyway, the gist of all this is that I got more interested in him after the film. Don't worry Lyra, you're not the only shallow one round here.

i always loved elves in the books. i admired them, and the way JRRT described them, they just seemed to demand a sort of reverance, and of course, who wouldn't want to live forever youngish? but i did sort of ignore legolas the first time i read the books. after i saw the movie though, i was a bit shallow, you have to admit he's cute, and i probably will go see pirates of the caribean just for that reason. I paid more attention to his character when i re-read the books. then i got sort of disapointed, like you, merenwen, because i loved the part when he went to get the sun! i think by skipping parts like that, some of legolas' character was destroyed, but i sort of disagree with you guys on the whole gimili/legolas friendship thing. i think they did a good job of showing it, if you already knew it was there. that's one of the things i like about the movies, you can watch them over and over and realize new things each time. but anyways, if you watch the council of elrond, you deffinately can tell that legolas and gimili don't get along, and then in ttt, legolas threatens eomer when gimili is about to get speared. it's not really that big of deal, unless your watching for it. by the way, did any of you guys notice the *glittering in the caves.* anyways, my thoughts on legolas deffinately changed after the movie...

[GaladrieloftheOlden]

That's exactly what I thought, figgy, just I'll state it differently I guess [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Wow, differing opinions here. Me personally, before the movies, I just didn't think about Legolas at all. Not in a bad way, but, (just like Gimli), he was there, and I always thought of him as just another member of the Fellowship, added so that Elrond could say his famous "9 walkers" line. However, I do have a fascination with Elves, so I thought about him a little, just when I thought about all of the Elves. Of course, there were a few lines about him that provoked some thought, or maybe a laugh, but other than that, I certainly didn't think about him more than any other member of the Fellowship.
After the movies...well, I admit that Orlando is goodlooking, but loathe extremely the "leggi is hot"ers. [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] Okay, that's enough anger smilies. I thought that he was fun to watch, but not wuite the right Legolas. Still, it would be impossible to get the right Legolas, because I think that his Elvish qualities could not quite be portrayed by any actor.

[Lyra Greenleaf]

I admit that Orlando is goodlooking, but loathe extremely the "leggi is hot"ers

Well he is! Just cos I think so doesn't mean I'm stupid!

[hobbit punk]

Legolas in the book is much more grand and awe-inspiring than in the movie. In the book he is portrayed as tall, honorable, and very skillful. But his friendship with Gimli shows his lighter side and is a very important message against racism. You think that maybe he and Gimli can bridge the gap torn between the dwarves and elves. The movie Legolas demonstrates amazing skill but I didn't think of him as being a aged, well-respected warrior(not aged as in your grandfather). I instead saw a young guy with talent..I liked the movie Legolas but there was a difference. And I do agree that the friendship between him and Gimli is understated in the movies.

[GaladrieloftheOlden]

Well he is! Just cos I think so doesn't mean I'm stupid!

Sorry, Lyra. That's not what I meant. I just mean that I, personally, may think he is hot, but really dislike that way of saying it, as it puts an image of screaming crowds of rabid fangirls into my head. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] And the word 'Orli' gives me the shivers.

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[Lily Bracegirdle]

I thought book-Legolas was underdeveloped and I wanted to see more of him. Film-Legolas is still underdeveloped as a character, but I like being able to see him doing things even when he's not the main focus of the story. (Well, I wasn't crazy about the horse-mounting or shield-surfing, but the Moria and Amon Hen scenes were fun.) I found Orlando Bloom enjoyable to watch once I got over the blond wig -- I had always thought Legolas was dark-haired.

Sophia, have you seen the extended version of FotR? The friendship between Legolas and Gimli comes through when Gimli is talking about his gift from Galadriel -- it's my favorite of the restored scenes. (I just hope the Extended TTT has Gimli challenging Eomer for insulting Galadriel on the fields of Rohan.)

-Lily

[ April 08, 2003: Message edited by: Lily Bracegirdle ]