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Urwen · 05-12-2019, 12:44 PM

Okay, clearly the hints aren't forthcoming and my theme guess remains unanswered too.

Therefore, I give up on this one. Here is my final guess for second L clue: Dagorlad.

Hope it helps the rest of you somehow.

Pervinca Took · 05-12-2019, 12:46 PM

Let's try some ancient Roman families, then.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cate...n_family_trees

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-12-2019, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Second L clue: Elvenking's Halls?

Yes, but how?

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Still don't have the theme

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 01:06 PM

Well, there is manors = halls, and there is k= degree.

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 01:07 PM

Also, give us some clues, please, pretty please......

If nothing else, then give us a hint of what the theme is.....

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-12-2019, 02:22 PM

All right! Finally back to a real keyboard after 24 hours.

Quote:

and there is k= degree.

You're so very close. But you also need "Roman family"

1 ???W???: Bean designated tenth man, cut here
2 ???I???: Here you'll find the bewildered spokesman for the heads of failed enterprises.
3: LONELY MOUNTAIN
4 ???D???: Here they confuse Arwen with a banker
5: ESGAROTH
6 ???R???: 3 nurses donate a user interface, but it's a mess
7???L???: The manors of a Roman family in a noble degree
8: LAKETOWN
9: BEORN
10: DALE

No. 1: sporting references again. Pay attention to "designated tenth man"
No. 2: "Bewildered spokesman."
No. 4: Typical synonym-anagram clue
No. 6: Think abbreviation

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 02:32 PM

Then if we remove K and halls, we're left with E L V E N I N G

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 02:34 PM

Arwen as in EVENSTAR or UNDOMIEL?

Because EVENSTAR is similar to INVESTOR, which is a synonym for 'banker'.

Pervinca Took · 05-12-2019, 02:40 PM

Roman is actually an anagram of manor, but that's probably just a coincidence.

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 02:46 PM

Does 1st clue have something to do with this: http://www.thetenthmanblog.net/sidney-moncrief/?

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 02:49 PM

6: Tndaui biam

Pervinca Took · 05-12-2019, 03:23 PM

A nurse over here is an RGN, (registered general nurse), but I expect that's probably not the case in Canada or the USA.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-12-2019, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Does 1st clue have something to do with this: http://www.thetenthmanblog.net/sidney-moncrief/?

Hmmm. No; I have no idea where "tenth man" came from in the context of basketball. The sport I'm thinking of is traditionally associated with nine players (although that hasn't actually been true, except in a couple of leagues, for years now). Bonus: the first part of the clue could allude to the same sport).

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-12-2019, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

A nurse over here is an RGN, (registered general nurse), but I expect that's probably not the case in Canada or the USA.

Here a nurse is simply a Registered Nurse (RN)... and, yes, you're on the right track.

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 03:43 PM

Okay, the sports with nine players are baseball and fast pitch softball.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-12-2019, 03:43 PM

INVESTOR is way off-course.

_____________________________

Ask yourself, why is it called a Kelvin?

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-12-2019, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Okay, the sports with nine players are baseball and fast pitch softball.

and the "designated tenth man" would be the.....

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 03:44 PM

And user interface is U I

So RUNI.

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

and the "designated tenth man" would be the.....

I don't know. Googling 'baseball+tenth player' or 'softball fastpitch tenth player' doesn't produce an official position name either.

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 03:48 PM

Like Pervinca, I am not a huge fan of sports either. :V

Urwen · 05-12-2019, 03:52 PM

Designated tenth man seems to be a hitter, but I don't see how that has a Tolkien connection.

Pervinca Took · 05-12-2019, 04:45 PM

Could the tenth man be the SUB or substitute?

Pervinca Took · 05-12-2019, 04:47 PM

3 nurses ...

Does RN + RN + IORETH produce anything interesting?

(I suspect not. Not enough vowels).

Pervinca Took · 05-12-2019, 04:58 PM

https://abbreviations.yourdictionary...eviations.html

Various abbreviations for kinds of nurse.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-12-2019, 08:31 PM

Okay-

Traditionally baseball was played by nine men. But in 1973 the American League introduced a new position. He doesn't field; his job is to bat for the pitcher. And he is called the.....

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-12-2019, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

3 nurses ...

Does RN + RN + IORETH produce anything interesting?

(I suspect not. Not enough vowels).

You've overlooked "donate"

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 01:43 AM

And UI as well.

The tenth position is designated hitter, as I've said. And it still has no Tolkien connection.

Also, can we get a hint for the theme.

Pervinca Took · 05-13-2019, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

You've overlooked "donate"

Ah, crafty.

Donate could have just meant donate the other elements to the answer/bank of letters.

Pervinca Took · 05-13-2019, 02:09 AM

Well, 'bean' is also, apparently, slang for hit/thump/strike/sock.

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Ah, crafty.

Donate could have just meant donate the other elements to the answer/bank of letters.

You also forgot user interface part.....

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 02:17 AM

and designated hitter doesn't contain a letter w either.

Pervinca Took · 05-13-2019, 02:20 AM

I didn't say I had solved it. I am just trying to unearth any other possibilities I can, so that someone *can* solve it.

The W suggests wound, perhaps, as a synonym for 'cut.'

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 02:28 AM

Withered Heath for 1 (D + HITTER (from designated hitter) + HEW + HEA (from head, as in bean head, losing last letter)

It's the best I can come up with it, and it fits with recent tradition of using the first letter of the password in the first clue to make it easier.

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 02:38 AM

Kelvin comes from lord kelvin, so LORD

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 02:52 AM

Caras Galadhon for 7 (LORD + CASA + GAHAN)

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Withered Heath for 1 (D + HITTER (from designated hitter) + HEW + HEA (from head, as in bean head, losing last letter)

It's the best I can come up with it, and it fits with recent tradition of using the first letter of the password in the first clue to make it easier.

You got it! Except that it's straight up HEAD ((=bean, as in beanball)

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the kelvin was named for Lord Kelvin, hence it's a "noble degree". Figure out "Roman family" and you're there.

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other guesses, no. Here's a helping hand for 6: RN RN RN + GIVE + UI

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Theme: the Password makes it have a very specific application, beyond simply "places in Rhovanion"

1 WITHERED HEATH
2 ???I???: Here you'll find the bewildered spokesman for the heads of failed enterprises.
3: LONELY MOUNTAIN
4 ???D???: Here they confuse Arwen with a banker
5: ESGAROTH
6 ???R???: 3 nurses donate a user interface, but it's a mess
7???L???: The manors of a Roman family in a noble degree
8: LAKETOWN
9: BEORN
10: DALE

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 07:05 AM

You haven't confirmed whether the theme is 'Places visited by Thorin and co' or not yet.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

You haven't confirmed whether the theme is 'Places visited by Thorin and co' or not yet.

No. (Inter alia, they never went to the Withered Heath)

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 07:21 AM

7 is Elvenking's halls (KELVIN + GENS + HALLS)

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

No. (Inter alia, they never went to the Withered Heath)

And places in Mirkwood/Northern Rhovanion?

05-12-2019, 12:44 PM	#5681
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Okay, clearly the hints aren't forthcoming and my theme guess remains unanswered too. Therefore, I give up on this one. Here is my final guess for second L clue: Dagorlad. Hope it helps the rest of you somehow. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-12-2019, 12:46 PM	#5682
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Let's try some ancient Roman families, then. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cate...n_family_trees __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-12-2019, 01:06 PM	#5684
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Well, there is manors = halls, and there is k= degree. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-12-2019, 01:07 PM	#5685
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Also, give us some clues, please, pretty please...... If nothing else, then give us a hint of what the theme is..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-12-2019, 02:32 PM	#5687
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Then if we remove K and halls, we're left with E L V E N I N G __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-12-2019, 02:34 PM	#5688
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Arwen as in EVENSTAR or UNDOMIEL? Because EVENSTAR is similar to INVESTOR, which is a synonym for 'banker'. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 05-12-2019 at 02:39 PM.

05-12-2019, 02:40 PM	#5689
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Roman is actually an anagram of manor, but that's probably just a coincidence. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-12-2019, 02:46 PM	#5690
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Does 1st clue have something to do with this: http://www.thetenthmanblog.net/sidney-moncrief/? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-12-2019, 02:49 PM	#5691
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	6: Tndaui biam __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-12-2019, 03:23 PM	#5692
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	A nurse over here is an RGN, (registered general nurse), but I expect that's probably not the case in Canada or the USA. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-12-2019, 03:43 PM	#5695
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Okay, the sports with nine players are baseball and fast pitch softball. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-12-2019, 03:43 PM	#5696
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,301	INVESTOR is way off-course. _____________________________ Ask yourself, why is it called a Kelvin? __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-12-2019, 03:44 PM	#5698
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	And user interface is U I So RUNI. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-12-2019, 03:48 PM	#5700
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Like Pervinca, I am not a huge fan of sports either. :V __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-12-2019, 03:52 PM	#5701
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Designated tenth man seems to be a hitter, but I don't see how that has a Tolkien connection. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-12-2019, 04:45 PM	#5702
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Could the tenth man be the SUB or substitute? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-12-2019, 04:47 PM	#5703
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	3 nurses ... Does RN + RN + IORETH produce anything interesting? (I suspect not. Not enough vowels). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-12-2019, 04:58 PM	#5704
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	https://abbreviations.yourdictionary...eviations.html Various abbreviations for kinds of nurse. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-12-2019, 08:31 PM	#5705
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,301	Okay- Traditionally baseball was played by nine men. But in 1973 the American League introduced a new position. He doesn't field; his job is to bat for the pitcher. And he is called the..... __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-13-2019, 01:43 AM	#5707
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	And UI as well. The tenth position is designated hitter, as I've said. And it still has no Tolkien connection. Also, can we get a hint for the theme. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 02:09 AM	#5709
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Well, 'bean' is also, apparently, slang for hit/thump/strike/sock. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-13-2019, 02:17 AM	#5711
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	and designated hitter doesn't contain a letter w either. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 02:20 AM	#5712
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I didn't say I had solved it. I am just trying to unearth any other possibilities I can, so that someone can solve it. The W suggests wound, perhaps, as a synonym for 'cut.' __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-13-2019, 02:28 AM	#5713
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Withered Heath for 1 (D + HITTER (from designated hitter) + HEW + HEA (from head, as in bean head, losing last letter) It's the best I can come up with it, and it fits with recent tradition of using the first letter of the password in the first clue to make it easier. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 02:38 AM	#5714
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Kelvin comes from lord kelvin, so LORD __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 02:52 AM	#5715
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Caras Galadhon for 7 (LORD + CASA + GAHAN) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 05-13-2019 at 02:55 AM.

05-13-2019, 07:05 AM	#5717
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	You haven't confirmed whether the theme is 'Places visited by Thorin and co' or not yet. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 07:21 AM	#5719
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	7 is Elvenking's halls (KELVIN + GENS + HALLS) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.