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12-15-2002, 03:56 PM | #41 |
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What's the difference between a fallen Angel and a fallen Vala? Both are no longer in the Divine Host and both have tried and failed numerous times to corrupt the world.
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12-15-2002, 03:58 PM | #42 |
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ooo, got me there. That's completely true...anyway we better stay on topic
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12-15-2002, 04:35 PM | #43 | |||
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Burrahobbit is right when he says that Eru is the Christian God, but only because Eru was conceived by a Christian. After all, Mattius is right, Eru was created by JRRT, but in the image and likeness (pardon the pun) of the God of revelation. So… Quote:
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Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot. The scientific properties of energy in no way prove an infinite chain of causality. Both first and final causality are based on the metaphysical concept of mutability, and not on an empirical observation of physical causes (that would be just plain silly). Energy, as described by physics is probably the most mutable thing out there, and thus most of all subject to first and final causality. [ December 15, 2002: Message edited by: Bill Ferny ]
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Check HoME (I think VII, or maybe VIII):
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12-16-2002, 08:29 AM | #45 |
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No, Bill, I haven't. Though I would like ion case you provide me with the link or something [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Galorme Istari=Angels on philological grounds as well as are paralleled with their status. Since Angel means messenger in Greek, and Istari are referred to as messengers of the Valar in several places.
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12-16-2002, 08:57 AM | #46 |
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Links to Etienne Gilson: This page contains a brief biography. Here's an example from my favorite book. And here is a bit of a bibliography .
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12-17-2002, 06:43 AM | #47 |
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thanks [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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