*TTT - Haldir (Craig Parker)* - Page 3 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

dunedain_aragorn · 01-03-2003, 04:31 PM

aragorn distracted Haldir at first, but Haldir died as he was making his way back, and isnt it strange, 2 people have died (boromir, Haldir) with aragorn at their side. weird huh?

dunedain_aragorn · 01-03-2003, 04:45 PM

galadrielsmaiden! i did not cry! (she said that in another post) I almost cried when Haldir died though. i think it was one of the coolest parts, even if it wasnt in the book.

Alex Chamois · 01-03-2003, 06:29 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Maybe this is more of a reflection on Orlando than Legolas, but I haven't seen a whole lot of emotion out of this guy. He looked more confused when Gandalf died than anything. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I've gotta disagree, Doug, buddy Maybe he looks confused to you, but what he says is, "I have not the heart to tell you. For me the grief is still too near." He's so upset that he can't bring himself to translate the lament. Then at Helm's Deep, he seems to me to be genuinely afraid. When he says, "they're all going to die", he is protesting not only on behalf of the humans which are all about to be massacred, but on behalf of himself, Aragorn and Gimli. Now, he's a warrior and warriors are supposed to keep such feelings to themselves. That is how I can classify Legolas as emotional.

Mandos · 01-03-2003, 06:42 PM

If I may add my two cents into this, Legolas was confused over Gandalf's death in the affect that he didnt understand death. Elves are immortal and the concept of suddenly dying is confusing to them. Of course he is emational and was upset. But to an immortal being, death is confusing.

Nieninque · 01-03-2003, 08:04 PM

*sighs* Yes, I did cry when he died, as well as when Frodo almost kills Sam *cries for poor Sam* The look in Haldir's eyes... I also think PJ killed him off because it wasn't really stressed that elves could die in FotR... a 'little reminder', so to speak... How about his entrance? I like it when Aragorn hugged him. He was surprised, but he hugged him back and smiled. *smiles at the memory* Despite his lack of screentime, I already had a special place in my heart for Haldir. Now it feels empty.

Mandos · 01-03-2003, 08:07 PM

Well dont be too sad, knowing PJ's changing of things, Haldir may come back in The ROTK as being reincarnated.

Armani_Elf · 01-04-2003, 04:29 AM

*nods* Hiro e ab 'wanath *grieves*peace

Nieninque · 01-04-2003, 05:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Well dont be too sad, knowing PJ's changing of things, Haldir may come back in The ROTK as being reincarnated. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>*laughs* Yeah, that's entirely possible...[ January 04, 2003: Message edited by: Nieninque ]

dunedain_aragorn · 01-05-2003, 12:45 PM

I thought it was sweet how the elves came. It was awesome how you could see the peoples faces light up. I also thought it was sweet how warrior Aragorn couldnt help but hug Haldir he was so happy. I was personally VERY sad when Haldir died. *le sigh*

Cherie Centaur · 01-05-2003, 01:29 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Well dont be too sad, knowing PJ's changing of things, Haldir may come back in The ROTK as being reincarnated. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's a little wrong. But that brings up too many questions to post right now. I saw what I last wrote on this thread and I can't believe I wrote that! I'm sorry to all who read my post, it was pure evil! I love Haldir and I just cast him aside to rant on Faramir! I feel so awful

Nieninque · 01-05-2003, 06:30 PM

When does he die in the books? I'm not done with RotK yet...

elf_Legolas · 01-08-2003, 07:50 PM

I didn't cry when he was killed but now I'm trying to compose myself. I agree with all the good that everyone has said about him. I don't agree with anything that was negatively said about him. Um....I don't believe he dies in the books.*goes to bed and cries into pillow*

01-10-2003, 11:38 PM

I was terribly upset when he was struck. I cried everytime i saw it. Do u tink it's possible he may come back??

01-11-2003, 01:46 AM

ok this is sort of off topic but all the talk of how Haldir isn't supposed to be there and such brought it to mind... did anyone else almost laugh out loud when Sam and Frodo are in Osgiliath, and Sam says something to the effect of "By rights we shouldn't even be here?" ... he meant something else by it, but I just cracked up. you dang well shouldn't be there Sam. it's not in the book.

Atariel · 01-11-2003, 06:46 AM

i didn't even think that Haldir was in TTT, and he certainly doesn't die. Nasssssty LA Directors. and isn't it just SLIGHTLY disrepectful towards Tolkien's great memory to show (nonetheless sexy) Orlando Bloom on the equivalent of a skate board, when they were only invented in the decade that Tolkkien died. Poopingtons.

01-11-2003, 12:01 PM

When Haldir and his mighty elves of Lorien I stood up and gave a mighty cheer for my favorite character that the entire audience took up. When i was stunned to see Haldir die (curse that Aragorn for distracting him!) i started crying. Naturally everyone in the theater thought I was mentally retarded, but it was so sad to see such a noble warrior die

Rosolas · 01-11-2003, 01:43 PM

I was really saddened at Haldir's death. He was an officer and a gentleman, and a damned good chap of an elf! The when the camera moved in on the other dead elves, that was very moving too.

PigsnieLite · 01-12-2003, 04:54 AM

Haldir was a brave noble elf who died for Middle Earth, but might have had one too many cream puffs. Look at all the other elven kind. They are all being diminished or somethin, so they rush off to the Undying Lands, carrying lanterns. But Haldir goes off to Helms Deep wid his archers & honours the Alliance wid the stinky Men of Middle Earth (who never seem to take baths, by the way).HALDIR LIVES! PS. I haf met Craig Parker & he is a skinny humorous humble fellow. Peter Jackson must haf told him to gain a little weight for LOTR.

King_Elessar · 01-12-2003, 05:51 AM

I did not like Haldir much in FOTR, but I cried when he dies in TTT!!

elf_Legolas · 01-12-2003, 10:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Do u tink it's possible he may come back?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>He better! I love him!!!!! *cries* Why did PJ have to kill him!!!!!!!!!!! grrr!

maikafanawen · 01-13-2003, 08:25 PM

Many, many good things were said on this thread.What Mollecon said about the elves making perfect sense arriving at Helms Deep, I agree completely!!Aengthrea Greenleaf Of Mirkwood: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> “And when the orc stabbed him in the back AHHHHHH I cried harder *yells at the move screen* WHY DID YOU DO THAT!!!!????” <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I jumped up and yelled as well! Then I sat down and started crying silently *snifs* Harmonica: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Oh, Haldir! Haldir! That beautiful elf... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, Harmonica, he *was* a beautiful elf! *sighs*I was moved by the elves arrival at Helm's Deep, and saddened to a huge extent at Haldir's departure. And just for the record, when Aragorn called up to Haldir to tell him to move back to the keep, Haldir looked at Aragorn, knodded, waved back to his the elves and the other men (if any) that were on the wall, I think he even fought off another orc, swung around or something, and *then* was killed. So it was *not* Aragorn's fault.But why Haldir ...

PigsnieLite · 01-14-2003, 01:24 AM

I belong to this group of cool people who love Haldir. Its in Livejournal. All they do is talk about Haldirs scrumdillyumptious all day long, even though Im a boy. (I can stand it, I guess, hahaha!)Here it is. <A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/savehaldir/" TARGET=_blank>Save HALDIR!</A>

Nieninque · 01-15-2003, 06:43 PM

So he doesn't die in the books... then how can PJ justify offing him? It's not like he died somewhere else and PJ just wanted a nobler death or something *sobs some more*

Arwen Imladris · 01-29-2003, 01:37 PM

Hi! I'm not a big Haldir fan (In the movies, because he is not supposed to be at Helms Deep. Yes, I am still very bitter about the elves at helms deep)but there is an interview with him (Craig Parker) <A HREF="http://www.nzgirl.co.nz/articles/1804" TARGET=_blank>here</A>and info about a birthday project (a scrap book to be sent to him ) <A HREF="http://www.freewebz.com/cparkerproject/index.html" TARGET=_blank>here.</A>

elf_Legolas · 01-29-2003, 07:28 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Well dont be too sad, knowing PJ's changing of things, Haldir may come back in The ROTK as being reincarnated. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't know, probably not..............

mollecon · 01-29-2003, 07:35 PM

&%#/%#/ No way José! Haldir isn't gonna return...

Arwen Imladris · 02-19-2003, 06:06 PM

<A HREF="http://www.craig-parker.net/" TARGET=_blank>Unofficial Craig Parker Website.</A>For all you Craig Parker fans. Enjoy.

Eressië Ailin · 02-19-2003, 06:23 PM

When Haldir died I stood up and shouted 'YAY!!!!' because he wasn't even supposed to be there.

PigsnieLite · 02-19-2003, 07:06 PM

That is a cool pic of Haldirs action figure on that website. I WANT WUN!

LadyElbereth · 02-19-2003, 08:05 PM

Whoa! If Haldir is reincarnated and appears on the next film, I'm gonna hack someone's head off!! *goes to sharpen her sword*

01-03-2003, 04:31 PM	#81
dunedain_aragorn Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: a Mcdonald's Happy Meal Posts: 47	aragorn distracted Haldir at first, but Haldir died as he was making his way back, and isnt it strange, 2 people have died (boromir, Haldir) with aragorn at their side. weird huh? __________________ "I must take leave, I have not slept since Dunnharrow, and I am weary."said Aragorn. Merry seized his hand and kissed it."I am frightfully sorry, we have been a nuisance to you since Bree." Aragorn laughed and left them. "Was there ever any like him?" said Pippin,"Except for Gandalf of course. I believe they must be related."

01-03-2003, 04:45 PM	#82
dunedain_aragorn Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: a Mcdonald's Happy Meal Posts: 47	galadrielsmaiden! i did not cry! (she said that in another post) I almost cried when Haldir died though. i think it was one of the coolest parts, even if it wasnt in the book. __________________ "I must take leave, I have not slept since Dunnharrow, and I am weary."said Aragorn. Merry seized his hand and kissed it."I am frightfully sorry, we have been a nuisance to you since Bree." Aragorn laughed and left them. "Was there ever any like him?" said Pippin,"Except for Gandalf of course. I believe they must be related."

01-03-2003, 06:29 PM	#83
Alex Chamois Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Melbourne Posts: 36	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Maybe this is more of a reflection on Orlando than Legolas, but I haven't seen a whole lot of emotion out of this guy. He looked more confused when Gandalf died than anything. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I've gotta disagree, Doug, buddy Maybe he looks confused to you, but what he says is, "I have not the heart to tell you. For me the grief is still too near." He's so upset that he can't bring himself to translate the lament. Then at Helm's Deep, he seems to me to be genuinely afraid. When he says, "they're all going to die", he is protesting not only on behalf of the humans which are all about to be massacred, but on behalf of himself, Aragorn and Gimli. Now, he's a warrior and warriors are supposed to keep such feelings to themselves. That is how I can classify Legolas as emotional.

01-03-2003, 06:42 PM	#84
Mandos Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Panama City, Florida Posts: 131	If I may add my two cents into this, Legolas was confused over Gandalf's death in the affect that he didnt understand death. Elves are immortal and the concept of suddenly dying is confusing to them. Of course he is emational and was upset. But to an immortal being, death is confusing. __________________ He came unto the timeless halls where shining fall the countless years and endless reigns the Elder King in Ilmarin on Mountain sheer

01-03-2003, 08:04 PM	#85
Nieninque Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: East Bight Posts: 67	sighs Yes, I did cry when he died, as well as when Frodo almost kills Sam cries for poor Sam The look in Haldir's eyes... I also think PJ killed him off because it wasn't really stressed that elves could die in FotR... a 'little reminder', so to speak...<BR>How about his entrance? I like it when Aragorn hugged him. He was surprised, but he hugged him back and smiled. smiles at the memory Despite his lack of screentime, I already had a special place in my heart for Haldir. Now it feels empty. __________________ ----- Legolas: A red sun rises in the East. Blood has been spilt this night. Aragorn: Goddamn elf's talking to himself again! I'm surrounded by weirdos...

01-03-2003, 08:07 PM	#86
Mandos Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Panama City, Florida Posts: 131	Well dont be too sad, knowing PJ's changing of things, Haldir may come back in The ROTK as being reincarnated. __________________ He came unto the timeless halls where shining fall the countless years and endless reigns the Elder King in Ilmarin on Mountain sheer

01-04-2003, 04:29 AM	#87
Armani_Elf Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: a mere Ghostly Wanderer Posts: 29	nods<BR>Hiro e ab 'wanath grieves<P>peace __________________ An elf in an Armani suit

01-04-2003, 05:57 PM	#88
Nieninque Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: East Bight Posts: 67	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Well dont be too sad, knowing PJ's changing of things, Haldir may come back in The ROTK as being reincarnated. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>laughs Yeah, that's entirely possible...<p>[ January 04, 2003: Message edited by: Nieninque ] __________________ ----- Legolas: A red sun rises in the East. Blood has been spilt this night. Aragorn: Goddamn elf's talking to himself again! I'm surrounded by weirdos...

01-05-2003, 12:45 PM	#89
dunedain_aragorn Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: a Mcdonald's Happy Meal Posts: 47	I thought it was sweet how the elves came. It was awesome how you could see the peoples faces light up. I also thought it was sweet how warrior Aragorn couldnt help but hug Haldir he was so happy. I was personally VERY sad when Haldir died. le sigh __________________ "I must take leave, I have not slept since Dunnharrow, and I am weary."said Aragorn. Merry seized his hand and kissed it."I am frightfully sorry, we have been a nuisance to you since Bree." Aragorn laughed and left them. "Was there ever any like him?" said Pippin,"Except for Gandalf of course. I believe they must be related."

01-05-2003, 01:29 PM	#90
Cherie Centaur Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cottage Cheese near the Gap Posts: 95	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Well dont be too sad, knowing PJ's changing of things, Haldir may come back in The ROTK as being reincarnated. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That's a little wrong. But that brings up too many questions to post right now. I saw what I last wrote on this thread and I can't believe I wrote that! I'm sorry to all who read my post, it was pure evil! I love Haldir and I just cast him aside to rant on Faramir! I feel so awful __________________ Why do we let the monkey slide for popping the weasel? Just because he thought it was fun? Guys, we're dealing with a psycho.

01-05-2003, 06:30 PM	#91
Nieninque Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: East Bight Posts: 67	When does he die in the books? I'm not done with RotK yet... __________________ ----- Legolas: A red sun rises in the East. Blood has been spilt this night. Aragorn: Goddamn elf's talking to himself again! I'm surrounded by weirdos...

01-08-2003, 07:50 PM	#92
elf_Legolas Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 15	I didn't cry when he was killed but now I'm trying to compose myself. I agree with all the good that everyone has said about him. I don't agree with anything that was negatively said about him. <P>Um....I don't believe he dies in the books.<P>goes to bed and cries into pillow __________________ When you tone big marshmellow!!

01-10-2003, 11:38 PM	#93
Sasha Guest Posts: n/a	I was terribly upset when he was struck.<BR>I cried everytime i saw it. Do u tink it's possible he may come back??

01-11-2003, 01:46 AM	#94
Agarwaen Guest Posts: n/a	ok this is sort of off topic but all the talk of how Haldir isn't supposed to be there and such brought it to mind...<BR>did anyone else almost laugh out loud when Sam and Frodo are in Osgiliath, and Sam says something to the effect of "By rights we shouldn't even be here?" ... he meant something else by it, but I just cracked up. you dang well shouldn't be there Sam. it's not in the book.

01-11-2003, 06:46 AM	#95
Atariel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Valimar Posts: 68	i didn't even think that Haldir was in TTT, and he certainly doesn't die. Nasssssty LA Directors. and isn't it just SLIGHTLY disrepectful towards Tolkien's great memory to show (nonetheless sexy) Orlando Bloom on the equivalent of a skate board, when they were only invented in the decade that Tolkkien died. Poopingtons. __________________ Nai tiruvantel, ar varyuvantel i valar tielyanna nu vilya

01-11-2003, 12:01 PM	#96
Olaf Von Lichenstein Guest Posts: n/a	When Haldir and his mighty elves of Lorien I stood up and gave a mighty cheer for my favorite character that the entire audience took up. When i was stunned to see Haldir die (curse that Aragorn for distracting him!) i started crying. Naturally everyone in the theater thought I was mentally retarded, but it was so sad to see such a noble warrior die

01-11-2003, 01:43 PM	#97
Rosolas Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 32	I was really saddened at Haldir's death. He was an officer and a gentleman, and a damned good chap of an elf! The when the camera moved in on the other dead elves, that was very moving too.

01-12-2003, 04:54 AM	#98
PigsnieLite Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: london Posts: 15	Haldir was a brave noble elf who died for Middle Earth, but might have had one too many cream puffs. Look at all the other elven kind. They are all being diminished or somethin, so they rush off to the Undying Lands, carrying lanterns. But Haldir goes off to Helms Deep wid his archers & honours the Alliance wid the stinky Men of Middle Earth (who never seem to take baths, by the way).<P>HALDIR LIVES! <P>PS. I haf met Craig Parker & he is a skinny humorous humble fellow. Peter Jackson must haf told him to gain a little weight for LOTR. __________________ HALDIR LIVES!

01-12-2003, 05:51 AM	#99
King_Elessar Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minas Tirith, City of the Kings. Posts: 57	I did not like Haldir much in FOTR, but I cried when he dies in TTT!! __________________ I see in your eyes, the same fear, that would take the heart of me. A day may come, when the courage of men fails. When we forsake our friends, and break all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day. This day...we fight!

01-12-2003, 10:08 AM	#100
elf_Legolas Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 15	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Do u tink it's possible he may come back?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>He better! I love him!!!!! cries Why did PJ have to kill him!!!!!!!!!!! grrr! __________________ When you tone big marshmellow!!

01-13-2003, 08:25 PM	#101
maikafanawen Tears of Simbelmynë Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beast's Castle Posts: 705	Many, many good things were said on this thread.<P>What Mollecon said about the elves making perfect sense arriving at Helms Deep, I agree completely!!<P>Aengthrea Greenleaf Of Mirkwood: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> “And when the orc stabbed him in the back AHHHHHH I cried harder yells at the move screen WHY DID YOU DO THAT!!!!????” <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I jumped up and yelled as well! Then I sat down and started crying silently snifs <P>Harmonica:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Oh, Haldir! Haldir! That beautiful elf... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yes, Harmonica, he was a beautiful elf! sighs<P>I was moved by the elves arrival at Helm's Deep, and saddened to a huge extent at Haldir's departure. <P>And just for the record, when Aragorn called up to Haldir to tell him to move back to the keep, Haldir looked at Aragorn, knodded, waved back to his the elves and the other men (if any) that were on the wall, I think he even fought off another orc, swung around or something, and then was killed. So it was not Aragorn's fault.<P>But why Haldir ... __________________ "They call this war a cloud over the land. But they made the weather and then they stand in the rain and say, 'Sht, it's raining!'" -- Ruby, Cold Mountain*

01-14-2003, 01:24 AM	#102
PigsnieLite Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: london Posts: 15	I belong to this group of cool people who love Haldir. Its in Livejournal. All they do is talk about Haldirs scrumdillyumptious all day long, even though Im a boy. (I can stand it, I guess, hahaha!)<P>Here it is.<BR><A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/savehaldir/" TARGET=_blank>Save HALDIR!</A> __________________ HALDIR LIVES!

01-15-2003, 06:43 PM	#103
Nieninque Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: East Bight Posts: 67	So he doesn't die in the books... then how can PJ justify offing him? It's not like he died somewhere else and PJ<BR>just wanted a nobler death or something sobs some more __________________ ----- Legolas: A red sun rises in the East. Blood has been spilt this night. Aragorn: Goddamn elf's talking to himself again! I'm surrounded by weirdos...

01-29-2003, 01:37 PM	#104
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Hi! I'm not a big Haldir fan (In the movies, because he is not supposed to be at Helms Deep. Yes, I am still very bitter about the elves at helms deep)but there is an interview with him (Craig Parker) <A HREF="http://www.nzgirl.co.nz/articles/1804" TARGET=_blank>here</A>and info about a birthday project (a scrap book to be sent to him ) <A HREF="http://www.freewebz.com/cparkerproject/index.html" TARGET=_blank>here.</A> __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

01-29-2003, 07:28 PM	#105
elf_Legolas Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 15	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Well dont be too sad, knowing PJ's changing of things, Haldir may come back in The ROTK as being reincarnated. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I don't know, probably not.............. __________________ When you tone big marshmellow!!

01-29-2003, 07:35 PM	#106
mollecon Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 188	&%#/%#/ No way José! Haldir isn't gonna return...

02-19-2003, 06:06 PM	#107
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	<A HREF="http://www.craig-parker.net/" TARGET=_blank>Unofficial Craig Parker Website.</A><P>For all you Craig Parker fans. Enjoy. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

02-19-2003, 06:23 PM	#108
Eressië Ailin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past the Point of No Return... Posts: 523	When Haldir died I stood up and shouted 'YAY!!!!' because he wasn't even supposed to be there. __________________ Holy angel, in Heaven blessed... My spirit longs with thee to rest! ~Faust Never judge a book by its movie. ~J. W. Eagan By the big slippers of big slipperdom! ~M. Gillenormand, Les Misérables My blog!

02-19-2003, 07:06 PM	#109
PigsnieLite Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: london Posts: 15	That is a cool pic of Haldirs action figure on that website. I WANT WUN! __________________ HALDIR LIVES!

02-19-2003, 08:05 PM	#110
LadyElbereth Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Taniquetil Posts: 190	Whoa! If Haldir is reincarnated and appears on the next film, I'm gonna hack someone's head off!! goes to sharpen her sword __________________ If I could be anything, I'd be your tear, so I could be born in your eye, live down your cheek, and die on your lips.

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