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He I just she it's working. I'm so stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img]
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05-21-2002, 01:15 PM
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Here's the result of my "favourite bad guys" festival:
In Lotr Bronze palm... for Saruman, cunning, perfidious and what an actor he is, that istari! Silver palm...for Gollum. I like his "precioussssnesss" very much and the merrier his facinating personnality. Gold palm ... for the... Balrog because I fell in love with him the first time I saw him in the movie! lol! In the silmarillion, Well, Feanor is the one who is succeeding going through my heart of stone ineluctably, arrgh!
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05-21-2002, 02:16 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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I said the Barrow-wights and the Nazguls were one of my favorites too. I just write everything too long and people just pass my posts by. I wouldn't read them either if I wasn't me! Gotta love the Nazgys.
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05-23-2002, 07:09 AM
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LOL! Temple? Big wormy grave it was, and the grost-thing had a sword... see that sword at the top of the page...
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05-23-2002, 03:00 PM
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Itinerant Songster
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Bad guy I most love to hate?
Would have to be one of Feanor's seven sons, Curufin, the blackest, meanest, most traitorous elf every known. Worse than Maeglin, I'd say. Even his own son Celebrimbor disowned him. He tried to force-marry Luthien. A real blackguard. |
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05-23-2002, 03:32 PM
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[img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] the evil/sinister characters are some of my favorites! (I, of course, love the elves too)
#1 evil: Morgoth! #2: the witch king, + nazgul #3: balrogs #4: sauron #5: saruman (as played by christopher lee) |
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05-23-2002, 10:23 PM
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Wight
Join Date: May 2002
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Okay. My favorite LOTR bad-guy...
Well, this is difficult b/c I'm not sure if you mean who is the "baddest" or who I loved the most? So I'll give you both: Baddest: Sauron! Just that big, fat, one red eye, sittin' in that big, dank, dark tower...(Morgoth wasn't in LOTR). But I am completely smitten by Smeagol/Gollum! He is tooooo precioussss! Yesss he issss! [ May 24, 2002: Message edited by: Evenstar1 ]
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05-24-2002, 10:41 AM
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I WANNA SAY WHO MY FAVORITE BAD...GUY....DUDE...PERSON...UM....YEAH. WELL, ANYWAY.........OH!!!! I JUST LOOOOOOOOOVE THE RING! I MEAN, IT IS CONCIDERED TO BE A BAD GUY, RIGHT? DONT YOU THINK? I MEAN, I FOUND THIS LOTR SCRIPT ON THE INTERNET, AND THE RING HAS LINES! IT DOES! YAY! SO, IN CONCLUSION (I LOVE SAYING THAT, EVEN THOUGH I NEVER SAY IT. MAKES ME SOUND SMART, YIKES!) THE ONE RING IS MY FAVORITE BAD GUY!!!!!!!! SHIBBY!
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05-25-2002, 02:52 PM
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Pile O'Bones
Join Date: Mar 2002
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My fav bad guy would have to be Gollum... I love the way he talks - hobbitese, pocketses, - and that slinker stinker part too ! Gollum is cool !
Although I have always had this wierd facination with the... can you call him person... the Mouth of Sauron. I mean can you imagine being so devoted to someone that you forget your name, where you are from, everything about yourself ? Man !
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05-25-2002, 02:57 PM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: May 2002
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Evilest bad guy I would definitely go for Sauron. He deceives, he deceives sum more, and never gives in. Perfect example of bad guy. First, he deceives Sauron, then Gandalf, Wormtongue, and even himself. And the guy's a genius, an istari, in other words: V. powerful. And still power-hungry, wanting the One Ring so he can "Rule over ME with wisdom." no treally, but anyways...
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05-25-2002, 03:01 PM
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Wight
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Are we going for the best (worst?) bad guy or the one you liked (hated?) the most? Ah well.
My personal favourite would have to be the Barrow-Wight. I even gave a tune to his song, and memorized passages from his chapter. Gollum and Shelob are close. Let's face it: Sauron doesn't do much in the books, Saruman is reduced to practically nothing before he dies. The Barrow-wight was very tanigible, very real and he scared me half to death (forgive the pun...) [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] |
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05-25-2002, 04:35 PM
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The Witchking of Angmar.
Cold, bloodthirsty, extremely rude to wizards, neither dead nor alive. That definitely grabbed me.
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05-26-2002, 01:56 PM
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honestly I dont consider gollum/smeagol evil...I LOVED the char. but he isn't sinister or dark. he's just been corrpted by the power of the ring..to me that doesn't make him evil....yes i kno that's what happened to many other ppl to make them evil, but they have POWER and they actually do evil things..sorry gollum!
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05-29-2002, 10:16 AM
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Wight
Join Date: Feb 2002
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My favorite is Saruman. He's such a fascinating character.
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05-31-2002, 08:20 AM
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For sheer brooding, self-obsessed misanthropy, I'd have to go for Eol. I know that he's not one of the big players, but his actions are so unnecessarily nasty that I think he merits a mention.
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05-31-2002, 08:23 AM
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Whoops. I just re-read the title of this topic and realised my crass mistake. I'll revise my choice to Saruman, supreme git of the Istari.
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06-01-2002, 06:02 PM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: May 2002
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[img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] Are we discussing evil guys or bad guys? Of the evil I'd vote for the Nazgul. They had got what they wanted and they paid for it.
As for the bad... Don't you agree that Eru, who created it all and let others sort out all the problems was BAD ! 2Veritas: You'd better try to read it in English. I believe you'll enjoy it. Translations are terrible. I for one just couldn't read it in my language. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [ June 01, 2002: Message edited by: akhtene ] [ June 03, 2002: Message edited by: akhtene ]
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06-01-2002, 09:02 PM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Canada
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Saruman is my fav, he's such a traitor.
Christopher Lee (Saruman) did a really good job in LOTR, I was very impressed [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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06-02-2002, 04:38 PM
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I don't know... Burrahobbit makes such a good case for Sam pushing Gollum over the edge into total villainy, and since Gollum is the best, saddest, funniest bad guy, Sam, as his incitor, gets top bad guy honors-- yes, I used to like Sam, but now I see he's bad, bad, bad ... you, Burrahobbit, have done this thing! Gotta reread the books now my eyes have been opened.
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06-03-2002, 01:55 PM
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Haunting Spirit
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona, -East of Dunharrow
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The Witch-King [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]
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06-04-2002, 07:16 AM
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The bad entity that gets my vote would be Glaurung the Dragon. While I realize he was created of/made by/ born of Melkor, his destruction of Nargothrond and his subsequent dealings with the children of Hurin -- turning them incestuous! -- was one of the truly sick and mischievious deeds ever conducted throughout the entire History of Middle-earth. It took a truly blackened heart to do such a deed. I vote it the most evil deed done by the most evil creature.
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06-20-2002, 03:51 PM
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Haunting Spirit
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Hi all! Saruman isn't only my favourite bad-guy but my fav LotR caracter, after all, he has a SOMEwhat and quite interesting personality and history! [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] He isn't all that bad either, he had (I presume) perfectly good intentions once, but Sauron decieved him (then quite easily, because Saruman is TOO obsessed with power for a maia...). And let me make it clear that the poor man was totally raving mad at the end of the book -- that's why he got so obsessed with getting revenge over Frodo for destroying the Ring or what (pardon my bad english I'm Norwegian [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img])
Saruman is da coolest! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] But I think he needed a girlfriend. |
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06-21-2002, 12:26 PM
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Haunting Spirit
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: France
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A girlfriend?! lol! Morima,
What a great idea! What would be the best candidate?! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] What a pity Gandalf has not a sister! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] BTW, Welcome to Barrow Downs and enjoy yourself
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silmarillien All that is gold doesn't glitter. *********************************** Nee, ai****ara Dare mo ga konna kodoku ni naru no? |
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06-25-2002, 02:28 PM
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Join Date: May 2002
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Speaking for one of my friends, I'd say gollum is the scariest character. We have to call him mullog around her (read it backwards) or else she gets freaked out and runs away. I don't know how she's going to get through the two towers...
Anyways, does anyone else feel sorry for those black horses that the Nazgul got from Rohan and turned evil? That is the most evil thing ever done! Poor horses! Bad Nazgul! EEEEEEEEVIL! |
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06-25-2002, 04:34 PM
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Haunting Spirit
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Well, Sauron was the ultimate enemy, [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] and Morgoth was even worse in his time. Most of the other "bad guys" were really just corrupted. For example, Sauroman thought that there was no hope at all, so he thought it better to join evil than to be defeated by it. Gollum was corrupted by the ring, and therefore Sauron. The Ringwaiths were slaves to Sauron with there nine rings, and Theoden was corrupted by the Palantir and, like Sauroman, thought that there was no hope. Enough babbling, Sauron was the bad guy.
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06-26-2002, 08:25 AM
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While I read the books, the evil guys that gave me the shivers were the Ringwraiths and the balrog. Saruman was just a power hungry wizard, he wasn't that scary to me.
But my favorite is Gollum you can't help but pity him. [ June 26, 2002: Message edited by: White Knight ] |
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06-27-2002, 03:37 PM
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I would say my favorite bad guy would definitely be Gollum. Even though i've never really thought of Gollum as a bad guy, guess he kinda was. We lovess gollum yess....
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06-28-2002, 09:41 PM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Apr 2002
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I really don't have a favorite bad guy cuz they are bad. LOL
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07-12-2002, 09:55 AM
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Morgoth,because he created the first dragon. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]
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07-12-2002, 03:04 PM
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Pile O'Bones
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The Witch-King of Angmar, of course.
He is not only my favourite bad guy, he is my favourite of them ALL. Can't tell exactly why...He is fascinating, we don't know much about him. He is cold, cruel and nearly immortal. On the other hand, I always felt sorry for him and his fate (as I did for all the Nazgul). By the way, to me one of the most evil characters is Turin Turambar -but he is meant to be on the "good" side...I just don't like him, he did evil things, often just out of his own pride and arrogance.
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07-14-2002, 01:47 AM
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I'd have to say that Morgoth was the best baddie Tolkien created because he is if possible the worst type of evil imaginable i mean even his own creations feared him. But in the Lord of the Rings i have to say that the eye of sauron was best because you always got the feeling it was watching frodo where eva he went.
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07-14-2002, 02:51 PM
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Orcs rule! I don't like wraiths because they are so dependant and I don't like Sauron because he's helpless. In a very odd sense. Anyways, ORCS ROCK! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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07-14-2002, 10:11 PM
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my fav has to be gollum. i love the hissing!! The Nazgul are the coolest and scariest evil there. They even creep up in dreams... scary.... But the one ring is the abouve all evil
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07-15-2002, 04:58 AM
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Tom Bombadil, a perfect nuisance.
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07-17-2002, 01:44 AM
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In FOTR, my fav villian was the Nazgul. They're just so dark and creepy. Each time they were in a part I was reading, my hands would be stuck to the book and I could not put it down!
My fav villian in TTT and ROTK is Gollum. He has the most different and strange personality, a type of personality you won't see in other books. He has a good side and a bad side. I remember when I first read LOTR, I kept hoping Slinker would overcome Stinker, but unfortunately that never came to be.
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07-18-2002, 04:02 PM
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Stone of Vision: Don't wanna go there!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Hmm... A candidate for Sarumans girlfriend? I don't think any of the LotR females could be. But that super-vain istar seems quite feminine, though, so maybe he'd prefer a man instead. Gandalf could be an option; they're quite like each other and really have a lot in common. But if we're thinking of women, then, at least he would have had a human, cause it doesn't seem like he likes elves much. After all, he's an Aulë istar, sent to be with the humans.
Gandalfs sister seems reasonable! Some wizard-woman who is somewhat intelligent, but not necessarily very sympathetic; a bit powerhungry, perhaps, that would probably be to Sarumans liking. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Hmm... This was a bit off topic. I'm sorry. I'll shut up now! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] |
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07-19-2002, 10:50 AM
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The Ringwraiths, no doubt on that. They weren't living and they weren't dead, they were tormented forms of existance forever under to controle of an evil and wicked being.
The ringwraiths were evil at its best. |
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07-20-2002, 07:39 PM
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Gollum since 89' and forever on.
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07-22-2002, 11:21 AM
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Not sure that Denethor counts as a bad guy...
I would say that my favorite bad guy would be the balrog, or perhapse one of the dragons. |
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07-25-2002, 03:15 AM
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Sauron...no actually Saruman is way more interesting. Kinda goodie to baddie [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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