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Rumil · 01-20-2010, 04:57 PM

Congratulations Esty, Aiwendil and Faramir Jones!

Really well done on getting the Music in Middle Earth book to press.

I can't claim to have read or indeed bought it yet but certainly intend to. Does it mention Gandalf and the Hammond Organ or 'Where there's a Whip there's a way' ?

All the best

Bêthberry · 01-20-2010, 05:04 PM

Let me add to Rumil's congratulations to Estelyn, Aiwendil, and Faramir Jones. This is quite something splendid to develope out of a lil ole interwebs forum.

Will say more once my copy arrives--I have it from a reliable source that my copy is on its way. I hope Air Gwaihir provides speedy delivery.

Inziladun · 01-20-2010, 06:14 PM

Congratulations, indeed!
I may have missed this information, but how does one obtain a copy?

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-21-2010, 06:45 AM

Thank you for the congratulations, Rumil, Bêthberry and Inziladun!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rumil

Does it mention Gandalf and the Hammond Organ or 'Where there's a Whip there's a way' ?

As a matter of fact, the chapter on instruments in Arda does mention "Where there's a whip..."

Percussion, you know.

(The Hammond organ is new to me - please let me know where it is mentioned!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I may have missed this information, but how does one obtain a copy?

The book is listed on Amazon, so you can order it there. It can also be ordered directly from Walking Tree Publishers, and you should be able to order it at bookshops such as Barnes and Noble. The book's page on the publisher's website (Music in Middle-earth) provides the ISBN number to aid in locating it.

Rumil · 01-21-2010, 01:34 PM

Hi Esty,

sorry, the Hammond Organ was derived from a Saucie comment on a thread long ago, so not exactly 100% JRRT

Cheers,

R

Faramir Jones · 01-28-2010, 05:12 AM

Rumil,

Thanks for the congratulations!

I'll be commenting on the contents in detail later, when I've read them properly.

To be clear to everyone reading here, the correct phrase was 'Where there's a whip there's a will', although it was certainly Tolkien's adaptation of the old phrase 'Where there's a will there's a way', hence Rumil's understandable mistake.

It was said in the context of the 'orc-driver' whipping Frodo and Sam every now and then, after having caught them and mistaken them for orc deserters, to 'encourage' them to keep marching.

'There now!' he laughed, flicking at their legs. 'Where there's a whip there's a will, my slugs....'

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-28-2010, 01:12 PM

Both quotes are correct: Faramir has the one from the book, Rumil has the song version from the animated RotK movie. The latter is used as an example in the chapter on instruments.

The Might · 01-28-2010, 01:26 PM

Congratulations on the book! Awesome work Faramir and Estelyn!
I'll surely buy it, I'm just a little bit confused...

Can I purchase the English version on German Amazon or only the German version? Because I'd like to have English one.

01-20-2010, 04:57 PM	#1
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 893	In Print! Congratulations Esty, Aiwendil and Faramir Jones! Really well done on getting the Music in Middle Earth book to press. I can't claim to have read or indeed bought it yet but certainly intend to. Does it mention Gandalf and the Hammond Organ or 'Where there's a Whip there's a way' ? All the best __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

01-20-2010, 05:04 PM	#2
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 5,977	Let me add to Rumil's congratulations to Estelyn, Aiwendil, and Faramir Jones. This is quite something splendid to develope out of a lil ole interwebs forum. Will say more once my copy arrives--I have it from a reliable source that my copy is on its way. I hope Air Gwaihir provides speedy delivery. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

01-20-2010, 06:14 PM	#3
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,036	Congratulations, indeed! I may have missed this information, but how does one obtain a copy? __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

01-21-2010, 01:34 PM	#5
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 893	Not entirely canonical... Hi Esty, sorry, the Hammond Organ was derived from a Saucie comment on a thread long ago, so not exactly 100% JRRT Cheers, R __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

01-28-2010, 05:12 AM	#6
Faramir Jones Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lonely Isle Posts: 706	The correct phrase Rumil, Thanks for the congratulations! I'll be commenting on the contents in detail later, when I've read them properly. To be clear to everyone reading here, the correct phrase was 'Where there's a whip there's a will', although it was certainly Tolkien's adaptation of the old phrase 'Where there's a will there's a way', hence Rumil's understandable mistake. It was said in the context of the 'orc-driver' whipping Frodo and Sam every now and then, after having caught them and mistaken them for orc deserters, to 'encourage' them to keep marching. 'There now!' he laughed, flicking at their legs. 'Where there's a whip there's a will, my slugs....'

01-28-2010, 01:12 PM	#7
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,499	Both quotes are correct: Faramir has the one from the book, Rumil has the song version from the animated RotK movie. The latter is used as an example in the chapter on instruments. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

01-28-2010, 01:26 PM	#8
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Congratulations on the book! Awesome work Faramir and Estelyn! I'll surely buy it, I'm just a little bit confused... Can I purchase the English version on German Amazon or only the German version? Because I'd like to have English one. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown