Question about the Two Towers Poster... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lhunbelethiel · 08-24-2002, 05:37 PM

Am I right in assuming that in the Two Towers <A HREF="http://www.allposters.com/gallery.asp?aid=269089&item=334264" TARGET=_blank>Poster</A> the closer tower is Orthanc and the further one is Barad Dur? Or is the closer one in Minas Tirith?And what do you folks think of the poster? It's neat and atmospheric but at the same time doesn't give alot of info about the story. I know you can't give too much away with it, but I think I liked the FOTR poster where the Fellowship are floating down the Anduin toward the Argonath better. Maybe it'll just take some getting used to.

Morquesse · 08-24-2002, 11:30 PM

I believe that the Two Towers are Orthanc and Barad Dûr, and it looks like to me that it is Orthanc that is in the front. And don't worry, I'm sure we'll get more TTT posters than this. Of the FotR posters, I liked any with the hobbits. See ya, ~M

Melephelwen · 08-25-2002, 11:11 AM

Not just to be opposite, but I think the closer one is Barad Dûr. I don't know about the other one, is doesn´t look like Orthanc nor Minas Morgul... For FotR posters, I liked all of them, except for the one where Frodo is looking at the Ring; it's a bit to ... focused for me. To be honest I liked the posters best, which were not pasted up everywhere. Why did they use the bad ones for publishing? Heehee, looked like I wrote a bit more than I intended to...

Voronwen Amatiriel Cuile · 08-25-2002, 11:22 AM

acyualy, i know that "The Two Towers" are supposed to be barad-dur and orthanac, but if you ask me the one in front looks like minas tirith, just because it's not creepy enough like barad-dur was in the first movie. but they could have made it look different for the poster, list for visual apeal maybe, i'm not really sure. and i know what that one ib the background is...

Voronwen Amatiriel Cuile · 08-25-2002, 11:23 AM

oops... i mean idon't know.

***Mister Underhill*** · 08-25-2002, 11:54 AM

It seems likely that "The Two Towers" refers to Orthanc and Minas Morgul (aka Minas Ithil), though Tolkien was a bit ambiguous and expressed dissatisfaction with the title, thinking it might be misleading: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>From the end of FotR: The second part is called THE TWO TOWERS, since the events recounted in it are dominated by ORTHANC, the citadel of Saruman, and the fortress of MINAS MORGUL that guards the secret entrance to Mordor; it tells of the deeds and perils of all the members of the now sundered fellowship, until the coming of the Great Darkness. From Letter 140: The Two Towers gets as near as possible to finding a title to cover the widely divergent Books 3 and 4; and can be left ambiguous – it might refer to Isengard and Barad-dûr, or to Minas Tirith and B; or Isengard and Cirith Ungol.¹ [footnote:] In a subsequent letter to Rayner Unwin (no. 143), Tolkien is more definite that the Two Towers are 'Orthanc and the Tower of Cirith Ungol'. On the other hand, in his original design for the jacket of The Two Towers (see no. 151) the Towers are certainly Orthanc and Minas Morgul. Orthanc is shown as a black tower, three-horned (as seen in Pictures no. 27), and with the sign of the White Hand beside it; Minas Morgul is a white tower, with a thin waning moon above it, in reference to its original name, Minas Ithil, the Tower of the Rising Moon (The Fellowship of the Ring p. 257). Between the two towers a Nazgûl flies.From Letter 143: I am not at all happy about the title 'The Two Towers'. It must if there is any real reference in it to Vol II refer to Orthanc and the Tower of Cirith Ungol. But since there is so much made of the basic opposition of the Dark Tower and Minas Tirith, that seems very misleading. There is, of course, actually no real connecting link between Books III and IV, when cut off and presented separately as a volume.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>But since this is really a movie poster question, I'm sending this topic to Movies.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-27-2002, 03:01 PM

Of course, Gandalf says in the trailer that"There is a union now between The Two Towers, Orthanc and Barad-Dur"So for the movie poster I reckon the one in front is Orthanc because the stairs look like the stairs Saruman stood on. And the one in the background has those 'devil horns' or whatever you want to call them so I'll go for Barad-Dur.

Eruhen · 08-29-2002, 09:35 AM

I just now checked out TTT's poster on PJ's website, and I know that the nearer one is Orthanc. As for the other one, I think that it is Minas Morgul, if only because it has the forked horns at the top, seeing as Morgul was once Minas Ithil, the Tower of the Rising Moon. I know that it's not the Dark Tower, because it doesn't look anywhere near as threatening. I also don't think that it's the Tower of Cirith Ungol, because it doesn't look like the description in TTT and RotK. So, that's why I think that they are Orthanc and Morgul.

08-24-2002, 05:37 PM	#1
Lhunbelethiel Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Francisco Bay Area (aka Bay of Belfalas) Posts: 103	Question about the Two Towers Poster... Am I right in assuming that in the Two Towers <A HREF="http://www.allposters.com/gallery.asp?aid=269089&item=334264" TARGET=_blank>Poster</A> the closer tower is Orthanc and the further one is Barad Dur? Or is the closer one in Minas Tirith?<P>And what do you folks think of the poster? It's neat and atmospheric but at the same time doesn't give alot of info about the story. I know you can't give too much away with it, but I think I liked the FOTR poster where the Fellowship are floating down the Anduin toward the Argonath better. Maybe it'll just take some getting used to. __________________ ~~All that is gold does not glitter, not all who wander are lost, all that is old does not wither, deep roots are not touched by the frost...~~

08-24-2002, 11:30 PM	#2
Morquesse Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Past the fields we know.... Posts: 202	I believe that the Two Towers are Orthanc and Barad Dûr, and it looks like to me that it is Orthanc that is in the front. And don't worry, I'm sure we'll get more TTT posters than this. Of the FotR posters, I liked any with the hobbits.<BR>See ya, <BR>~M __________________ I'm not ashamed to let you know I want this light in me to show. I'm not ashamed to speak the name of Jesus Christ.~Newsboys

08-25-2002, 11:11 AM	#3
Melephelwen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: the Middle of Nowhere Posts: 291	Not just to be opposite, but I think the closer one is Barad Dûr. I don't know about the other one, is doesn´t look like Orthanc nor Minas Morgul...<BR>For FotR posters, I liked all of them, except for the one where Frodo is looking at the Ring; it's a bit to ... focused for me. To be honest I liked the posters best, which were not pasted up everywhere. Why did they use the bad ones for publishing?<BR>Heehee, looked like I wrote a bit more than I intended to... __________________ We're all following a strange melody We're all summoned by a tune We're following the piper And we dance beneath the moon

08-25-2002, 11:22 AM	#4
Voronwen Amatiriel Cuile Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: No-where-ville: trust me, you dont care:-) Posts: 17	acyualy, i know that "The Two Towers" are supposed to be barad-dur and orthanac, but if you ask me the one in front looks like minas tirith, just because it's not creepy enough like barad-dur was in the first movie. but they could have made it look different for the poster, list for visual apeal maybe, i'm not really sure. and i know what that one ib the background is... __________________ "Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West, for your King shall come again, and he shall dwell amoung you all the days of your life."

08-25-2002, 11:23 AM	#5
Voronwen Amatiriel Cuile Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: No-where-ville: trust me, you dont care:-) Posts: 17	oops... i mean i<I>don't</I> know. __________________ "Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West, for your King shall come again, and he shall dwell amoung you all the days of your life."

08-25-2002, 11:54 AM	#6
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,743	It seems likely that "The Two Towers" refers to Orthanc and Minas Morgul (aka Minas Ithil), though Tolkien was a bit ambiguous and expressed dissatisfaction with the title, thinking it might be misleading: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>From the end of FotR:<BR><I>The second part is called THE TWO TOWERS, since the events recounted in it are dominated by ORTHANC, the citadel of Saruman, and the fortress of MINAS MORGUL that guards the secret entrance to Mordor; it tells of the deeds and perils of all the members of the now sundered fellowship, until the coming of the Great Darkness. </I><P>From Letter 140: <BR>The Two Towers gets as near as possible to finding a title to cover the widely divergent Books 3 and 4; and can be left ambiguous – it might refer to Isengard and Barad-dûr, or to Minas Tirith and B; or Isengard and Cirith Ungol.¹ [footnote:] In a subsequent letter to Rayner Unwin (no. 143), Tolkien is more definite that the Two Towers are 'Orthanc and the Tower of Cirith Ungol'. On the other hand, in his original design for the jacket of The Two Towers (see no. 151) the Towers are certainly Orthanc and Minas Morgul. Orthanc is shown as a black tower, three-horned (as seen in Pictures no. 27), and with the sign of the White Hand beside it; Minas Morgul is a white tower, with a thin waning moon above it, in reference to its original name, Minas Ithil, the Tower of the Rising Moon (The Fellowship of the Ring p. 257). Between the two towers a Nazgûl flies.<P>From Letter 143: <BR>I am not at all happy about the title 'The Two Towers'. It must if there is any real reference in it to Vol II refer to Orthanc and the Tower of Cirith Ungol. But since there is so much made of the basic opposition of the Dark Tower and Minas Tirith, that seems very misleading. There is, of course, actually no real connecting link between Books III and IV, when cut off and presented separately as a volume.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>But since this is really a movie poster question, I'm sending this topic to Movies.

08-27-2002, 03:01 PM	#7
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Of course, Gandalf says in the trailer that<P>"There is a union now between The Two Towers, Orthanc and Barad-Dur"<P>So for the movie poster I reckon the one in front is Orthanc because the stairs look like the stairs Saruman stood on.<BR>And the one in the background has those 'devil horns' or whatever you want to call them so I'll go for Barad-Dur. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-29-2002, 09:35 AM	#8
Eruhen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: At the Mountains of Madness Posts: 399	I just now checked out TTT's poster on PJ's website, and I know that the nearer one is Orthanc. As for the other one, I think that it is Minas Morgul, if only because it has the forked horns at the top, seeing as Morgul was once Minas Ithil, the Tower of the Rising Moon. I know that it's not the Dark Tower, because it doesn't look anywhere near as threatening. I also don't think that it's the Tower of Cirith Ungol, because it doesn't look like the description in TTT and RotK. So, that's why I think that they are Orthanc and Morgul. __________________ Agannâlô burôda nênud; zâira nênud. Adûn izindi batân tâidô ayadda: îdô kâtha batîna lôkhî. Êphalak îdôn Yôzâyan. Êphal êphalak îdôn hi-Akallabêth.